AZ ranch

BoFuller · Mar 1, 2015

bindian said:
All that beautiful wood interior and your putting up drywall? :confused3: hugs, Brandi

Trying to keep it to a bare minimum. Ceiling in spare bedroom and the downstairs bath to hide pipes and wiring.
One wall in kitchen (common wall between bath & kitchen). Laundry room, two walls in bath, and one wall in downstairs bedroom. And that pony wall upstairs.
NO LOGS will be covered.
If I had the time I would come up with something creative on some walls like the laundry, but once again I'm pushing a deadline of April 15, so it's easier and quicker to do a couple interior stud walls with drywall - for now! That upstairs pony wall could well be stripped and redone next summer.

dave1949 · Mar 1, 2015

That's crazy. If something off-plan fails to meet code, that's one thing but going from code enforcement to plan **** is something else. That guy/county is out of control and needs to be reined in.

BoFuller · Mar 1, 2015

Ken said:
Way back at start of this saga. I mentioned to Bo that was asked to install a light in Seligman airport building so those entering the building would not walk into the prop of a airplane parked . The inspection was turned down because did not use a factory offset but bent conduit to handy box. Not surprised that the inspector required this change after all may be the only job he was to do in past year. This is rural ranch country ken

They totally discourage owner-builder. They want it done quickly by a contracting company. Easier for them. Who cares about the individual?

BoFuller · Mar 1, 2015

BoFuller said:
They totally discourage owner-builder. They want it done quickly by a contracting company. Easier for them. Who cares about the individual?

Actually I think it is that other theory - where "they" don't want people building out in the country. They prefer building to be done in the cities, where "they" have more control. It has a name but I can't remember it right now.

BoFuller · Mar 1, 2015

We got hit with a snow storm today. I left around noon and there was about 6 inches. Now it's at least 12. I left two amigos there to do drywall and they have never seen snow before. They are starting to freak out. I can't get back for 3 days so I hope they calm down.

hddnis · Mar 1, 2015

I can hardly imagine a person that hasn't seen snow before!

Your place is looking really good, Bo

Mr. HE

dave1949 · Mar 2, 2015

BoFuller said:
Actually I think it is that other theory - where "they" don't want people building out in the country. They prefer building to be done in the cities, where "they" have more control. It has a name but I can't remember it right now.

That's possible. Some towns in southern Maine put a very low limit on the number of new home building permits they will issue in one year as an anti-sprawl measure.

BoFuller · Mar 6, 2015

Busy week. We got the pantry sheeted.

BoFuller · Mar 6, 2015

And the laundry.

BoFuller · Mar 6, 2015

The bedroom wall, closet and ceiling.

I still need to have my screw inspection before tape and mud.

BoFuller · Mar 6, 2015

The kitchen wall and refrigerator pony wall.

BoFuller · Mar 6, 2015

And after 6 months and 3 submissions I finally got my solar permit!!! Yahoo!!

Kyle_in_Tex · Mar 6, 2015

BoFuller said:
And after 6 months and 3 submissions I finally got my solar permit!!! Yahoo!!

I truly believe what you say about them not wanting any building being done out there. Especially by self contractors. I remember all the trouble you had before you could even begin.

dave1949 · Mar 7, 2015

Kyle_in_Tex said:
I truly believe what you say about them not wanting any building being done out there. Especially by self contractors. I remember all the trouble you had before you could even begin.

Ditto. Your drywall screw inspection??? You must be kidding.

Bo, what is the history of that land? Was it a large ranch or tract that was divided, maybe counter to what the locals think was a good idea? I don't understand where the inspection, permitting, etc. nitpicking obstruction comes from.

BoFuller · Mar 7, 2015

This was part of a large Ranch. Much of Northern AZ is like that. But this is just everyday BS for this County. Every construction in the County must go through this. None of the locals like it. Many of them just don't get permits. You get electrical inspection, then you sheet and then you get screw inspection (making sure there is a screw every 6 inches), then you can tape and mud. They did a floor joist inspection, then they did a subfloor inspection, then they inspected the 2X6 finish floor to see if I had enough screws in it.

Every dwelling that installs Solar is suppose to get a permit, then they inspect to see if your roof or structure is capable of supporting the weight of the panels. They inspect the pad that you put a backup generator on, to make sure it is adequate and won't collapse or tilt later. They are inspection crazy. Since this is a non-traditional structure, they scrutinize even more. And since I'm an owner-builder, they scrutinize even more. The inspector told me that they expect the exact same standards for a home in the country as they do for one next to city hall. I figure I'll be done with them in about 40 days, then I'll be a free man again!!!!

dave1949 · Mar 7, 2015

Well, they should see some of things people build around here. They would have instant and terminal apoplexy. :laughing:

I'm all for encouraging proper construction for safety and energy efficiency but it can be over done.

Kyle_in_Tex · Mar 7, 2015

BoFuller said:
This was part of a large Ranch. Much of Northern AZ is like that. But this is just everyday BS for this County. Every construction in the County must go through this. None of the locals like it. Many of them just don't get permits. You get electrical inspection, then you sheet and then you get screw inspection (making sure there is a screw every 6 inches), then you can tape and mud. They did a floor joist inspection, then they did a subfloor inspection, then they inspected the 2X6 finish floor to see if I had enough screws in it.

Every dwelling that installs Solar is suppose to get a permit, then they inspect to see if your roof or structure is capable of supporting the weight of the panels. They inspect the pad that you put a backup generator on, to make sure it is adequate and won't collapse or tilt later. They are inspection crazy. Since this is a non-traditional structure, they scrutinize even more. And since I'm an owner-builder, they scrutinize even more. The inspector told me that they expect the exact same standards for a home in the country as they do for one next to city hall. I figure I'll be done with them in about 40 days, then I'll be a free man again!!!!

You would have been finished a year ago here in Texas. Almost no rural inspections except septic I think.

dave1949 · Mar 7, 2015

Kyle_in_Tex said:
You would have been finished a year ago here in Texas. Almost no rural inspections except septic I think.

That's about like here. 50' street setbacks (no side setbacks), septic and plumbing inspection. Shoreland Zoning along a lake or stream can get more complicated but it's related to lot coverage, vegetation within the buffer zone, etc., not construction materials or methods.

BoFuller · Mar 7, 2015

I had a guy who just bought a parcel a few miles away come over and ask for advice on how to get started. He wants to build a stone house. I said, "I don't want to be disrespectful, but my best advice is to sell"

dave1949 · Mar 7, 2015

BoFuller said:
I had a guy who just bought a parcel a few miles away come over and ask for advice on how to get started. He wants to build a stone house. I said, "I don't want to be disrespectful, but my best advice is to sell" &#55357;&#56835;

Well yeah, he would have to send all his rocks to a lab for non-destructive structural integrity testing and certification. :laughing: