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Soapandbacon

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Kubota BX25D
So I thought it would be great to cut the grass in the field that hopefully will be our building site. I know the soil is strange here it seams to hold water and is plastic , it was a bit soft but it looked ok to cut. I guess I forgot it rained a few nights ago.....everything went well until the first turn. Next thing I know I'm in deep ... I tried all kinds of stuff but I needed help. Thankfully my good neighbor was at home, see below for the classic tug if war ....

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Next time I'm taking the FEL and BH off, that might help a bit .... Waiting for it to dry might also help...
 
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Soapandbacon,

You may need to re-evaluate your building site if it is that wet. Is there high ground on your property? Or consider tiling around the house site.
 
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Next time I'm taking the FEL and BH off, that might help a bit .... Waiting for it to dry might also help...


I wouldn't consider mowing any other way, the lighter the mower the better.
 
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I wouldn't consider mowing any other way, the lighter the mower the better.

Yeah, it is entirely possible that you'd have floated across the ground w/o that extra weight. But with it, now you push not only the tires, but the mower deck into the muck as well. That's becomes a big ol' anchor.
 
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You couldn't push yourself out? A long time ago I was taught to stabilize the rear with the stabilizers, set the buckets on the FEL and Backhoe down and roll both buckets in the direction you want to go. You can walk the backhoe around without ever spinning a wheel. That's how many experienced operators get in and out of wet areas without worrying about digging ruts.

Or try this:
STUCK ON MUD? NO PROBLEM! - YouTube

-Phillip
 
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Yeah, it is entirely possible that you'd have floated across the ground w/o that extra weight. But with it, now you push not only the tires, but the mower deck into the muck as well. That's becomes a big ol' anchor.

The mower deck was precisely the issue...the anti scalp rollers were in the way, it took me a moment to realize this, I lifted up and removed them, after that I was able to push up and out with the assistance of my neighbor also pulling.
 
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You couldn't push yourself out? A long time ago I was taught to stabilize the rear with the stabilizers, set the buckets on the FEL and Backhoe down and roll both buckets in the direction you want to go. You can walk the backhoe around without ever spinning a wheel. That's how many experienced operators get in and out of wet areas without worrying about digging ruts.

Or try this:
STUCK ON MUD? NO PROBLEM! - YouTube

-Phillip

Philip, I was thinking about that....lack of experience and panic on my part...i wish i would have seen that video before, it would have saved me the embarrassing green vs orange situation . As a side note my mom stopped by , assessed the situation and scolded me for not buying a bigger tractor! but next time....!
 
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From observing the picture, it appears that the land behind the John Deere, is elevated higher than where you got stuck. If your property includes the area that I referred to, can you implement a drainage solution regarding the water soaked area? Water tends to run downhill and collect. Best wishes.
 
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Bless your Mom, but a bigger tractor often means a deeper rut.

You can use the FEL and hoe as built-in jacks too. Use them to get the machine up, then put logs below the tires. Sometimes moving over with the hoe just takes you to a new stuck spot too. "Moving over" would take you a while to get up the slope, which is where you needed to go.
 
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Bless your Mom, but a bigger tractor often means a deeper rut.

I have $1000 that says my tractor would walk right through that in 2wd. (Of course, I will need to find spare time and such, which I have none of right now.) In this case, Mother knows best.

;)

-Phillip
 
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Hasn't been that wet, really. We had less than 3/4 inch last week. Fields are in good shape and planting is going well. I see your home site is partially wooded. That would help hold the water this time of year. You may want to do a "walk around" before mowing next time to be sure it is dry enough for your equipment, or be sure your neighbor is home !! Good luck and enjoy your land.
 
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I have $1000 that says my tractor would walk right through that in 2wd. (Of course, I will need to find spare time and such, which I have none of right now.) In this case, Mother knows best.

;)

-Phillip

Oh, I agree. Arguing with Mom is a losing proposition. :laughing:
 
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The Cat backhoe lifting and moving itself over is an industrial backhoe, not a utility backhoe like the Kubota. Some backhoes don't recommend swinging the rear of the machine with the boom.
 
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The Cat backhoe lifting and moving itself over is an industrial backhoe, not a utility backhoe like the Kubota. Some backhoes don't recommend swinging the rear of the machine with the boom.

Because they don't want the liability risk associated with idiots turning their tractors on their sides. My stance is, it's your machine. Learn how to operate it like an extension of your own body.
As a kid I was always amazed at how my uncle operated the FEL on my Grandparent's JD 4020. He may as well have been picking things up with his own hands. That was my goal, and I believe I have surpassed it. Just as I train my horses to be like my own legs, my tractor may as well be my arms and legs. Can put it anywhere and pick up anything. :)

Just saying, don't give up because you don't operate a backhoe for a living. There are many professionals out there who could learn a thing or two from the people who really practice at home.

-Phillip
 
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Don't think it has anything to do with liability. If they were so concerned with liability, they wouldn't build machines in the first place. An easy way to wreck a utility or farm machine is to try to use it like an industrial machine. They just aren't built as rugged.
 
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Because they don't want the liability risk associated with idiots turning their tractors on their sides. My stance is, it's your machine. Learn how to operate it like an extension of your own body.
As a kid I was always amazed at how my uncle operated the FEL on my Grandparent's JD 4020. He may as well have been picking things up with his own hands. That was my goal, and I believe I have surpassed it. Just as I train my horses to be like my own legs, my tractor may as well be my arms and legs. Can put it anywhere and pick up anything. :)

Just saying, don't give up because you don't operate a backhoe for a living. There are many professionals out there who could learn a thing or two from the people who really practice at home.

-Phillip
Really?
 
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Those CUT'S are designed for loaders and backhoes . The problem was pilot error .
 
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Yea, but I have also worked on assorted farms/ranches, plus I've put in alot of gravel roads and riding arenas...in addition to working on my own place, so I guess I have had the opportunity to get a bit more seat time than the average homeowner. That said, I've met alot of "professional operators" who couldn't operate their way out of a wet paper bag...so yes, a homeowner can be better than a "professional" in many cases. ;)

-Phillip
 
 
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