Another slope application question

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Axlehub, thanks for the informative answer. Your right there is a huge variety of opinion on this. I'm a homebuilder and when I built this house, I essentially dug in to a hillside and created a flat space for the house and a flat bit of yard but have a hill behind the house and a super steep hill in front. The rest of the property loses 60' in elevation from the back of the property behind the house down to the street (3acre lot). I got in to a lot of rock in the excavation which I buried most but the rear hillside has a little bit of topsoil covering...rock. I don't I will be able to put any sort of machine on these hills and threw grass seed to try and stabilize the erosion of topsoil. My plan is to install plantings at some point. The local jurisdiction allowed my to only clear about an acre out of the 3 for construction. The rest was an old orchard and field grass. It's growing crazily now with all of this rain we've had and I need to keep it cut or my new neighbors are going to lose their patience. I will be moving rocks as I find them growing out of the ground while I try to turn this field grass in to something presentable and also clear the few poison ivy mangled apple trees on the property.

I had guys out the other day to know down the field grass/weeds and they used zero turns so I feel confident that a MMM can accomplish this. I wouldn't mow with the BH on nor probably with the bucket.

I've got two good dealers in my town. JD and Kubota. I guess 1 series or bx for me. I am going to look at a B2601. It's 3" lower than a B2650 but has enough space to add spacers so maybe that might be the sweet spot.
 
   / Another slope application question #23  
If they are mowing it with ZTRs, it either isn't that steep, or they are nuts! ZTRs are notoriously bad on slopes.

Measure your slopes so we can have some idea of how steep they really are to help with the suggestions as to what would be a better machine for you.
 
   / Another slope application question
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Most of my slope is seeded and netted so I kept them and their ZTRs off of that part. I measured approx 13* off level which I believe is around 23% slope?

Yesterday I sat on and drove: BX2680, B2601, B2650 around a local Kubota dealer and his lot had some slope to play on. The B2601 just "felt" more stable to me. I think that is direction I'm going to go.

0% for 84 months may end this month and two dealers informed me of a 2.5% increase coming across the board due to "tariffs".
 
   / Another slope application question #25  
Maybe I’m nuts but I’d bet money I can mow a hill with my grasshopper that would roll a tractor. The zero turn model, tires, and operator make the difference between pretty much useless and a hill mowing machine.
 
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   / Another slope application question #26  
Most of my slope is seeded and netted so I kept them and their ZTRs off of that part. I measured approx 13* off level which I believe is around 23% slope?

Yesterday I sat on and drove: BX2680, B2601, B2650 around a local Kubota dealer and his lot had some slope to play on. The B2601 just "felt" more stable to me. I think that is direction I'm going to go.

0% for 84 months may end this month and two dealers informed me of a 2.5% increase coming across the board due to "tariffs".

Don't get hung up on the % grade. Stick with degrees of angle. Many people over the years here on TBN have talked about 45 degree slopes and after interrogation and discussion, realize it's a 45% grade, which is only a 23ish degree angle. There's just been so much confusion regarding % grade VS degree angle. Grade really only matters to truckers and trains and up and down hills.

When you're traveling across a hill, you aren't moving up or down, so you arent' climbing or decending a grade. You're traversing a slope and leaning at an angle. Anyhow, call it what you want, just be sure to remember the difference.

13 degrees is not very much at all. Traveling up and down it should not be a problem. Across it shouldn't either, but if you put a load in an FEL and raise it too much, or a backhoe angled down the hill, or hit a hidden dip or groundhog hole, then your center of gravity or tilt angle can change rapidly and over you go.

Stand 8' back from an 8' wall. From your feet to the ceiling is 45 degree angle.
4' up the wall is about 22.5 degree angle.
2' up the wall is about 11.25 degree angle.

So if you think about it, you should be able to drive up 2' high in 8' forward pretty easily.
 
   / Another slope application question #27  
Stand 8' back from an 8' wall. From your feet to the ceiling is 45 degree angle.
4' up the wall is about 22.5 degree angle.
2' up the wall is about 11.25 degree angle.

So if you think about it, you should be able to drive up 2' high in 8' forward pretty easily.

That might be the best example I've seen on here, making very easy for anyone to picture. Like you said earlier there's been a lot of confusion over grade/slope/degrees.
 
   / Another slope application question #28  
Most of my slope is seeded and netted so I kept them and their ZTRs off of that part. I measured approx 13* off level which I believe is around 23% slope?

Yesterday I sat on and drove: BX2680, B2601, B2650 around a local Kubota dealer and his lot had some slope to play on. The B2601 just "felt" more stable to me. I think that is direction I'm going to go.

0% for 84 months may end this month and two dealers informed me of a 2.5% increase coming across the board due to "tariffs".

.. I just had a B2601 delivered yesterday. Ordered it a couple weeks ago
I was looking at the same tractors as you, as well as others, even some non tractor options. and decided on the 2601. We have a lot of sloped areas, hills and rough terrain.
...We decided a subcompact BX would be too small. The B2650 would be too big for our house, orchard, barn area.
....Kubota made it a pretty easy decision with their 0% finance and we found a dealer we like, with a good reputation for service after the sale
 
   / Another slope application question #29  
According to the angle app on my phone by holding it on the roll bar this hill is 17 degrees. It’s child’s play for my grasshopper. That’s the equivalent of bragging that your loader lifted 3 bags of cement. IMG_4349.JPG
 

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