Another rant about buying used

[Paystar]

For the record, I only buy new stuff when it comes to vehicles and new tractors, etc. Because I don't trust people.

But unfortunately when you like 40 plus year old tractor collecting, you have no choice but to buy used.

I bought a tractor off a facebook antique tractor site. Talked to the seller many times. Seemed like a nice guy. Again, drove many hours to go get tractor, pics looked beautiful.
As soon as I got there and saw it, I knew I was getting fleeced. But stupid me, I paid the price because I wanted it.
Then came home and had another box of parts shipped from Steiners to start all the repairs. So ya, paid way too much, but am going to end up with another nice tractor when I'm done.

But anyway, here's another @*$% that says "It's all serviced. I just replaced ALL fluids and filters. Ready to go"

Needless to say, the engine oil was black, transmission and hydraulics were all low, and I highly doubt he changed those filters. And now I just checked the engine coolant and it's nothing but p!$$ water. Don't even register in my hydrometer.

Luckily I'm not that dumb to trust people, or I would have had a frozen and cracked engine block this summer.

Oh well, I lose money but at least I save old tractors from the hands of worthless trash people.

 

[Hay Dude]

Buying “long distance” sure puts the buyer at a disadvantage.
It seems like the only way you can try to claw back some type of advantage over the seller is to bring a wad of cash and make your firm offer, or be very tough and point out the shortcomings of the item you are buying without ticking off seller TOO much.

I have really grown to dislike buying used equipment more than 50 miles from my home

 

[ultrarunner]

I've had mixed long distance purchases...

The best is when they came from someone in the club or someone local to help vet the purchase.

The worst is when a seller's definition of restored was a rattle can paint over grease and rust.

Personal inspection with supporting documents and checked emotions before getting out of the truck work the best but human nature also geared to the prize...

That said, even the not so stellar purchases have worked out over time...

I was not even looking or in the market for my 700 series row crop...

The seller was downsizing and he had a long career as carrier aircraft maintenance chief.

I went as a ride along with a friend to pickup some equipment he bought and casually admired the pristine tractor in the barn...

Owner showed me pictures during the restoration and told me to take it around the yard... no discussion on buying or selling.

As we were leaving I thanked him and he mentioned he was keeping the tractor for the last to go and I said I can see why after all the effort put into it...

In short returned next week with empty trailer in tow and that is how I became the third owner of my 740 row crop.

 

[2manyrocks]

If someone told me they had recently serviced the oil, etc., and then it was apparent that this wasn't true, that would be the end of the deal. If they aren't going to be truthful about something so obvious, how do they expect me to trust anything else they have to say?

 

[Hay Dude]

“No rust” is my biggest gripe with people selling used. You get there and can push your finger through the rust

 

[dodge man]

I just can’t but anything expensive long distance. I have to see and touch it.

 

[Paystar]

“No rust” is my biggest gripe with people selling used. You get there and can push your finger through the rust

I have a friend looking for a GM/Chev 2500. One was on my road for sale. So he asked me to go look. Here where I am, you cannot get a safety if the rocked panels are rotten.
Well the whole bottom of this thing was rotten, the frame was rotten and it said "certified" so obviously he has a mechanic friend that's not too worried about his license.

 

[Paystar]

So I keep watching the Mecum Gone Farming auctions on RFD and keep trying to get the time to go to one.
Anyone ever go to one? Is it safer buying a tractor from there, seeing as how they are mostly all restored from private collections?

Or is there a lot of painted up junk you have to watch for there too?

 

[Hay Dude]

I have a friend looking for a GM/Chev 2500. One was on my road for sale. So he asked me to go look. Here where I am, you cannot get a safety if the rocked panels are rotten.
Well the whole bottom of this thing was rotten, the frame was rotten and it said "certified" so obviously he has a mechanic friend that's not too worried about his license.

I have been looking for a non rusted 3500 Dmax.

 

[DKCDKC]

I bought my first tractor, JD 2030 25 years ago, but from a JD mechanic I knew. He swore it was in great condition. And it was. I traded it in in 2012 because I wanted a smaller tractor my wife could drive - and went new on a JD CUT so I wouldn't have to worry about repairs for a while. And it has been perfect for 900+ hours with no shop repairs. I do buy most equipment used - BB, rake, rotary cutter, finish mower, blade, etc. because they are simple and you can easily ascertain condition with a simple examination. I bought a finish mower for junk value, replaced the rotors and have what is essentially a new machine with almost no rust - I looked. For someone on fixed income, retired, and experienced with equipment, used just makes sense. I never buy before examining. And, so far, have never had a lemon or been fooled. But, then, I don't buy complex equipment.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Was this the Ford you purchased recently?

 

[Thomas]

Only got burnt once buying long distance.
Seems to be more and more scammers and there making decent living doing so.

 

[Fixastuff]

I bought two expensive machines sight unseen. A vermeer trencher/vibratory plow from Iowa and a 6ton excavator from Colorado(I'm in va). Both were good deals even with shipping and turned out to be great buys. They were from dealerships though not individuals. Right now I'm working on a engcon tilt/rotator deal that will be shipped from England to me. Hopefully that will work out just like the others.

 

[Hay Dude]

I bought two expensive machines sight unseen. A vermeer trencher/vibratory plow from Iowa and a 6ton excavator from Colorado(I'm in va). Both were good deals even with shipping and turned out to be great buys. They were from dealerships though not individuals. Right now I'm working on a engcon tilt/rotator deal that will be shipped from England to me. Hopefully that will work out just like the others.

Would like to know the process of getting machinery shipped from across the pond. They have substantially lower prices on well equipped farm tractors.

 

[Omega Woods]

I bought two expensive machines sight unseen. A vermeer trencher/vibratory plow from Iowa and a 6ton excavator from Colorado(I'm in va). Both were good deals even with shipping and turned out to be great buys. They were from dealerships though not individuals. Right now I'm working on a engcon tilt/rotator deal that will be shipped from England to me. Hopefully that will work out just like the others.

Please DM me about the engcon. I need one. Thanks!

 

[jimglassford]

But anyway, here's another @*$% that says "It's all serviced. I just replaced ALL fluids and filters. Ready to go"

Needless to say, the engine oil was black, transmission and hydraulics were all low, and I highly doubt he changed those filters. And now I just checked the engine coolant and it's nothing but p!$$ water. Don't even register in my hydrometer.

Luckily I'm not that dumb to trust people, or I would have had a frozen and cracked engine block this summer.

Oh well, I lose money but at least I save old tractors from the hands of worthless trash people.

So you bought the tractor, hauled it home then checked the fluids?

 

[Paystar]

So you bought the tractor, hauled it home then checked the fluids?

Ya, like I said, I wanted it anyway so I didn't bother checking too much. After driving nine hours I wasn't coming home empty. He seemed trustable and he owns a diesel repair shop so I thought I could take his word for it all being serviced.

I had another tractor lined up from another tractor restoration shop in the area. But that guy ended up being an even bigger crook.
So I didn't bother trying to bargain the price and drive away since I had no other options where I was.

But she's all good now. Feels good to finally start getting some of my tractor projects going.

Now I'm going to need a bigger trailer to haul multiple tractors to the shows, LOL

 

[newbury]

For the record, I only buy new stuff when it comes to vehicles and new tractors, etc. Because I don't trust people.

I'd like to be the same way but my wallet doesn't let me.
I bought my B7610 with trailer used, long distance, off CL. Most of TBN called it a killer deal.
Bought my M4700 used off Public Surplus, another killer deal.
Bought my Ford F350 dually off CL, again a fair ways off, a decent deal.

Trust but verify.

 

[Paystar]

I'd like to be the same way but my wallet doesn't let me.
I bought my B7610 with trailer used, long distance, off CL. Most of TBN called it a killer deal.
Bought my M4700 used off Public Surplus, another killer deal.
Bought my Ford F350 dually off CL, again a fair ways off, a decent deal.

Trust but verify.

Well, I've always been in the trucking business, so I have been in some bad financial times in the past. So what I learned to do is save a payment every month, then when I have the cash, go buy it.
Makes it a bit easier to swallow. And don't have to worry about interest rates.

 

[oosik]

Perhaps I'm just lucky here. I've never ( 40 years looking ) found anything used that was sized for my tractors. Around here the world is full of used equipment - if you have a 350+ hp tractor and the need.

Sooo...... I save up and buy new. I could buy used equipment - east of the Mississippi - but the cost of shipment - might just as well buy new here.