Loader Am I abusing my tractor?

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coveredbridge

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Lately when I'm doing loader work, I notice that when I put the tractor under a big load (pushing into the snow, leaf pile) I get a little whiff of hydraulic oil. It doesn't smell burnt, it smells just like it does when you pour it out of the bottle. I can never find oil leaking anywhere, so what is causing this odor, and does it mean I'm overloading the tranny/hydraulic/4wd system? Is it indicating a problem in one of these systems? Or is it normal and I just never noticed it before? I like to maximize the functionality of my equipment, but I don't want to abuse it.
 
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You might have a pinhole in a hose or line that is leaking only under high pressure. If you smell hyd oil it is getting out somewhere.
 
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I'd say this is normal - when its warm out and I work the loader and BH hard the tranny vents and I smell hydro fluid - no leaks - its just the bubbles in the oil after working hard have to expand and have to vent somewhere.

BTW I have a B21TLB and it has a hyd oil cooler too but it still vents a oil smell after some hard digging or work out. The vent is under the seat so its not unusual in my opinion - just a sign things are working as they should
 
/ Am I abusing my tractor? #5  
As hydro fluid heats up it expands some which will push air (odors) out of the breathers.....
 
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I'd say this is normal - when its warm out and I work the loader and BH hard the tranny vents and I smell hydro fluid - no leaks - its just the bubbles in the oil after working hard have to expand and have to vent somewhere.

BTW I have a B21TLB and it has a hyd oil cooler too but it still vents a oil smell after some hard digging or work out. The vent is under the seat so its not unusual in my opinion - just a sign things are working as they should

That was kind of what I thought, that it was venting from the tranny, since I couldn't find any oil anywhere, but I didn't know if that meant I was pushing it too hard.
 
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I've smelled the same thing on my L4200 kubota and my L5040 when I'im maxing the loader out. I think its normal and nothing to worry about. 13 years of use on my L4200 and 2 years on my L5040 with no issues. Fluid levels remain full just you smell a whiff of it now and then. I THINK it could be the pressure relief valve???
 
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When you abuse it the tranny oil will smell burned and be dark colored. On my BX 25 I have worked it hard for 400 hours in one year and the oil temp only gets warm to the touch, have lost no oil, it is still clear and smells sweet.

Ron
 
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Can you abuse a tractor? I've run mine in 120 degrees plus temp all day long doing anything I ask and the tractors beg for more.

I had one kubota that finally started over heating, the motor felt like a blast furnace. I looked at the screen in front of the radiator and it was 90% blocked from what I was doing.

Hosed off the screen, let her cool down, and we hit it again not skipping a beat.
 
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I'd say this is normal - when its warm out and I work the loader and BH hard the tranny vents and I smell hydro fluid - no leaks - its just the bubbles in the oil after working hard have to expand and have to vent somewhere.

BTW I have a B21TLB and it has a hyd oil cooler too but it still vents a oil smell after some hard digging or work out. The vent is under the seat so its not unusual in my opinion - just a sign things are working as they should

Agree!
 
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As you don't let us know what size/kind of tractor/transmission you have, its hard to give a definite answer.
Does your rpm drop off as you hit the end of your "load" or does it stay constant?
On a hst you should be letting off the pedal as the bucket digs and the tractor movement slows. This keeps the rpm up and increases your torque when you need it...On a gear tractor you pretty well have to depress the clutch and let momentum fill the bucket or gradually slip the clutch until its fully disengaged before the motor stalls.
 
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I can smell hydro fluid venting as well on my L4400. I pretty much start to smell it as soon I begin working the loader hard. Doesn't have to be after working it for a while.
 
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I also smell it faintly if working the loader hard, no leaks so i assume its normal.
 
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Not sure if this is the reason but there is a.significant change in fluid level in your system as you operate your loader. When you raise the loader oil flows in the piston end of the cylinders - large diameter - and out the rod end - small diameter. That means more oil into the cylinders. Lower the bucket and the opposite happens. Air is constantly flowing into and out of your reservoir, I assume in this case your transmission housing. Depending on where the vent is located, you can get a whiff of vapor. My mini-excavator which has a lot of cylinders and long cylinder strokes has a sight tube. The fluid level changes over 1 inch between all cylinders extended and all cylinders retracted. Lots of air exchange in the reservoir.
 
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Lately when I'm doing loader work, I notice that when I put the tractor under a big load (pushing into the snow, leaf pile) I get a little whiff of hydraulic oil. It doesn't smell burnt, it smells just like it does when you pour it out of the bottle. I can never find oil leaking anywhere, so what is causing this odor, and does it mean I'm overloading the tranny/hydraulic/4wd system? Is it indicating a problem in one of these systems? Or is it normal and I just never noticed it before? I like to maximize the functionality of my equipment, but I don't want to abuse it.
When you work the loader, the hyd pump and valves are working under pressure. This causes heat. Also the level of oil in the sump is varying with the loader movement. Warm oil vapor air comes out the breather. Thatll give you a smell without any leaks present. ... Probably your case.:)
larry
 
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If you own a Kubota, the hydraulic oil vent cap is probably just behind and below the seat, and I too smell a whiff of hydraulics in high heat conditions.

If your oil level stays constant I don't see a problem. If you are losing oil then you may have a pinhole leak, but be careful as the high pressure can puncture the skin, and cause all sorts of problem. I suggest using gloves and a clean rag to run along the hose and fittings to search for a high pressure pin hole leak.

PS- Don't forget to use your safety glassed also
 

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