" A" style steel building

[rasorbackq]

Just erected a steel building and now to do the front wall. Want to do it with vinyl siding. But not sure what to do with the J trim or just tuck the siding under the front trim pieces. Guess where some of the issue starts is the starter strip should hang below the wood framing but the front steel trim will not allow this . I am sure someone here will be able to assist .

 

[davedj1]

What steel trim are you referring to?
If you are just framing in on either side of the garage door opening you should be able to hang the starter strip down over the concrete. They sell extra wide starter strip too. I would go with the J channel, I think it looks more finished.

 

[rasorbackq]

There is an L shaped trim that is mounted to the last arch Hard to see in the pic but the sign is attached to it Will get better pics tomorrow. The 2x6 wall and boarding goes behind this trim piece to prevent weather from entering.

 

[rasorbackq]

So here are a few pics The starter strip should extend below where the wood wall will be to shed the water The bottom edge of the siding will have to clip in to the starter strip but it will not beable at the edge because the metal is in the way.

 

[VroomVroom]

Hello Razorbackq, I couldn't read all of your thread as I'm suppose to be at work... But I purchased a similar building over a year ago. Due to various circumstances I couldn't put it up, or even look at the kit. I do want to get it up soon due to fear there may be parts missing and such...How long did it take you to build it? I didn't look at the blueprints.....you put the mounting kits directly to your cement while still drying? Thanks for any info you may have.

 

[rasorbackq]

Vroom ..... I used the base plates They are attached with wedge anchors after the concrete is hard. It took 2 people 5 days 25x 30. Just couldn't lift the full arches into position 7 pieces to an arch . We installed 2 and 2then 1,1and the peak.
A group can built them on the weekend. Its scary in the wind .
Be sure to use chalking everywhere as my base plates inside fill up every rain fall. Not been very nice outside to hunt down the leaks.

 

[VroomVroom]

Ok. Scary in the wind while building you mean? If you could have lifted the full arch can you put it together that way? I think mine is roughly the same size as well. I haven't looked at the blue prints and assembly procedures.. I know that the whole garage fit on a trailer...which is why I would have liked to have put it together sooner but have had a very bad year and it sat there since the fall on the trailer. Really would like to put it together.

 

[Dr Dave]

Install a treated 2x8 to the floor, be sure to caulk it good. Then install a 2x6 on top of the first one set back about 1and 1/2" to alow for your 1/2" plywood, house wrap and siding.

Frame and sheet your wall. Before installing siding, install flashing at the base, 4" up wall, 1" over exposed 2x8 and 3" down to cover the front edge of the 2x8 and concrete .

Then install your starter strip and siding, this should keep your wall behind the factory trim


Dave

 

[crazyal]

One trick with vinyl j channel is to heat it up. Once you do it'll be very flexible and can be bent. I used a kerosine heater "salamander" blowing into a steel pipe with the j channel in it.

 

[murphy1244]

One trick with vinyl j channel is to heat it up. Once you do it'll be very flexible and can be bent. I used a kerosine heater "salamander" blowing into a steel pipe with the j channel in it.

That's pretty darn smart!

 

[crazyal]

That's pretty darn smart!

Just don't get it too hot, don't ask how I know. It'll cool pretty quickly so you kind of need to move fast but I was able to put J channel around the 6' wide half circle living room window.

 

[rasorbackq]

Install a treated 2x8 to the floor, be sure to caulk it good. Then install a 2x6 on top of the first one set back about 1and 1/2" to alow for your 1/2" plywood, house wrap and siding.

Frame and sheet your wall. Before installing siding, install flashing at the base, 4" up wall, 1" over exposed 2x8 and 3" down to cover the front edge of the 2x8 and concrete .

Then install your starter strip and siding, this should keep your wall behind the factory trim


Dave

Never thought of a flashing . Great answer! One other way I thought of was to..... where the siding is thin and flat slide that into the opening between the trim and concrete . It will extend down like a flashing beyond the concrete edge.

 

[rasorbackq]

Install a treated 2x8 to the floor, be sure to caulk it good. Then install a 2x6 on top of the first one set back about 1and 1/2" to alow for your 1/2" plywood, house wrap and siding.

Frame and sheet your wall. Before installing siding, install flashing at the base, 4" up wall, 1" over exposed 2x8 and 3" down to cover the front edge of the 2x8 and concrete .

Then install your starter strip and siding, this should keep your wall behind the factory trim


Dave

Why not just install the 2x8 back from the edge Then install a bent flashing for an even siding install level with the concrete and even with the front.

 

[Dr Dave]

The first 2x8 would alow you to cover the metal base frame at the bottom of both side walls.

Dave

 

[rasorbackq]

The first 2x8 would alow you to cover the metal base frame at the bottom of both side walls.

Dave

Sorry Dave but not understanding ?????

 

[rasorbackq]

After thinking about it Dave ..... Are you trying to get the starter strip higher then the anchor plate so no notching of the siding?
If so that's going to look odd . I siding should be at least level or lower then the pad.

 

[Dr Dave]

After thinking about it Dave ..... Are you trying to get the starter strip higher then the anchor plate so no notching of the siding?
If so that's going to look odd . I siding should be at least level or lower then the pad.

Yes that is what I was trying to explain, sorry for any confusion.

Most siding j channels require 3/4" - 1" space, if you were to place it behind the buildings existing trim.

If you used flashing to match your siding it would look allright. The bottom face of the siding would be even with the flashing covering the 2x8 and concrete. And would also cover the base on the sides. All you would see is 3" flat surface of the flashing.

It would be dificult to notch the siding, to fit around the base and be water tight. You would still have to flash around the base frame.

To bad the existing trim was not 1" longer than the slab, that would resolve any issue.

Dave

 

[rasorbackq]

Again I was thinking of white flashing as that's all I have but you're right if the flashing matched the siding it would not be seen.
Thanks for the input.

 

[rasorbackq]

Going to have to go with your idea Dave with the 2x8 as the contractor didn't set the bolts in far enough. They are set at 1 1/2" to 2" . Once I set back the wall with siding and boarding there was nothing to bolt down.

 

[Dr Dave]

Will you be heating the building or is this for storage? Is the back wall steal?

Keep the pics coming. Thanks for sharing your build.

Dave