Oil & Fuel A quick 5 gallon fuel container rant

[LBrown59]

Pat (Are we comparing dorsal fins?)

Just rolling drums out for barrels of fun

 

[Soundguy]

I feel a polka coming on.. " roll ..out..the.. barrell.."

soundgy

 

[LBrown59]

I feel a polka coming on.. " roll ..out..the.. barrell.."

soundgy

lollol

 

[radioman]

I feel a polka coming on.. " roll ..out..the.. barrell.."

soundgy

doh!!!

 

[gemini5362]

we'll have a barrel of fun

 

[N80]

I read through this hole post hoping I'd get an answer but didn't. I don't mind the 5 gallon yellow plastic jugs. I just don't like the ventless part. As several people mentioned here, just adding a hole solve that problem. But, I'd like a better way to plug the hole than a screw or something like that.

Anyone have any ideas of how to add a vent that you can really seal properly?

 

[LBrown59]

Anyone have any ideas of how to add a vent that you can really seal properly?

I just take the whole spout off the can and stick the end of the hose coiled on the hose hanger in the can and pump the fuel right out.

 

[kidr]

I read through this hole post hoping I'd get an answer but didn't. I don't mind the 5 gallon yellow plastic jugs. I just don't like the ventless part. As several people mentioned here, just adding a hole solve that problem. But, I'd like a better way to plug the hole than a screw or something like that.

Anyone have any ideas of how to add a vent that you can really seal properly?

use a tubless tire valve stem. Take out the valve replace the cap. Makes any can super fast. Not my idea ,stole it from some one on this site.

 

[Lunk]

I read through this hole post hoping I'd get an answer but didn't. I don't mind the 5 gallon yellow plastic jugs. I just don't like the ventless part. As several people mentioned here, just adding a hole solve that problem. But, I'd like a better way to plug the hole than a screw or something like that.

Anyone have any ideas of how to add a vent that you can really seal properly?

When I get the can home, I heat a tapered metal punch with my MAPP torch, and melt a hole about 2/3 the size of the coarse-thread 3/8" screw eye that I'm using for the plug. Screw it in while the plastic's still semi-molten, and let cool.

They don't leak (knock wood), and the 1"+ diameter eyelet makes it easy turn in or out.

Lunk

 

[davitk]

I read through this hole post hoping I'd get an answer but didn't. I don't mind the 5 gallon yellow plastic jugs. I just don't like the ventless part. As several people mentioned here, just adding a hole solve that problem. But, I'd like a better way to plug the hole than a screw or something like that.

Anyone have any ideas of how to add a vent that you can really seal properly?

George, I realize that you live several hundred miles from here but we have a local 'Farm and Fleet' that sells vented diesel cans as I bought a couple this summer. However I still prefer my unvented cans: remove the cap, hoist it up and dump it into a funnel. Quick and easy.

 

[N80]

Thanks guys. I will try the tips you mentioned.

Maybe its just me (clumsy) but when I tried pouring without the spout I ended up making a mess, even with a large funnel.

I think the valve stems would work.

 

[LetsRoll]

George....I've made several vents for friends. I dont have one cause I have a 110v diesel pump mounted on a 55 gallon poly drum. When empty, I load it up on the trailer and take it into town and fill it with diesel. I do have a couple vented red gas cans thou. So, I've never built one for myself. What I've done is, take a 3/4" long bolt and drill a hole down the middle. With the bigger diameter bolt, the larger the hole you can drill. I then took the bolt and put it in a lathe and machined about three or four threads off at the head end. Then get you two "hydraulic" type O-rings. If you get a big enough bolt, you can drill a rather large hole all the way through the bolt, you can also run a tap down the hole and then screw a stud into the hole when you get done fueling your tractor. Once you get the bolt drilled and tapped for threads and you have three or four threads cut off by the head of the bolt. You then drill a hole in your fuel can. Remember when cutting the threads off, just cut the threads off enough so that you get the same pitch diameter as the threads. Use a dial caliper. It will tell you the inner OD of the threads. When you do this, screwing the threads of the bolt into the hole of your fuel can, it wont enlarge the hole that you already drilled. Then put one hydraulic O-ring on the bolt, fish inside of the fuel can. Once you get the bolt into the hole, put the other hydraulic O-ring on and then screw a nut and tighten the nut enough so that you dont rip or mess up the O-ring. When you get a bolt and nut, make sure you get stainless steel. A stainless steel bolt and nut will nut rust and the hydraulic O-rings will handle diesel fuel. Also get a stainless steel stud. Its not a hard vent to make. The hardest part is fishing the bolt into the fuel can and screwing it into the hole. Every so often, check the tightness of the nut. If it does not stay tight, put another nut on. It will stop the other nut from loosening up.


I do have another method of building a fuel pump and a electric motor. But most would say it dangerous. I've built a pump (gear driven) and electric motor when fueling my waste oil burning stove. This pump and electric motor could be used to pump diesel fuel. I have a you-tube video of it. It will move 6 gpm of waste motor oil. I'd say it would move 10 gpm of diesel. The video does not show it pumping waste motor oil, but it will give you an idea. Under my you-tube name at the top right, click on "more info". That will explain what I used in making this pump and electric motor.

Maybe something for you to think about.

YouTube - Waste Oil Burning Stove Oil Transfer Tank And Pump

Thanks,
Cliff

 

[LBrown59]

1* I have a 110v diesel pump mounted on a 55 gallon poly drum.
2*When empty, I load it up on the trailer and take it into town and fill it with diesel.

1*You mean something like this:
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2*When empty I call the fuel man and have him come by and fill it with the red off road fuel.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If i took anything to get filled it would be the third drum in the picture.
When I got back with it I'd drop the end of the hose hanging on the green hanger into the drum while it's still in the truck and use this pump to pump the fuel into the second drum pictured.
Next I simply set the empty drum back in the corner wher it was .

 

[Lunk]

George....I've made several vents for friends. I dont have one cause I have a 110v diesel pump mounted on a 55 gallon poly drum. When empty, I load it up on the trailer and take it into town and fill it with diesel. I do have a couple vented red gas cans thou. So, I've never built one for myself. What I've done is, take a 3/4" long bolt and drill a hole down the middle. With the bigger diameter bolt, the larger the hole you can drill. I then took the bolt and put it in a lathe and machined about three or four threads off at the head end. Then get you two "hydraulic" type O-rings. If you get a big enough bolt, you can drill a rather large hole all the way through the bolt, you can also run a tap down the hole and then screw a stud into the hole when you get done fueling your tractor. Once you get the bolt drilled and tapped for threads and you have three or four threads cut off by the head of the bolt. You then drill a hole in your fuel can. Remember when cutting the threads off, just cut the threads off enough so that you get the same pitch diameter as the threads. Use a dial caliper. It will tell you the inner OD of the threads. When you do this, screwing the threads of the bolt into the hole of your fuel can, it wont enlarge the hole that you already drilled. Then put one hydraulic O-ring on the bolt, fish inside of the fuel can. Once you get the bolt into the hole, put the other hydraulic O-ring on and then screw a nut and tighten the nut enough so that you dont rip or mess up the O-ring. When you get a bolt and nut, make sure you get stainless steel. A stainless steel bolt and nut will nut rust and the hydraulic O-rings will handle diesel fuel. Also get a stainless steel stud. Its not a hard vent to make. The hardest part is fishing the bolt into the fuel can and screwing it into the hole. Every so often, check the tightness of the nut. If it does not stay tight, put another nut on. It will stop the other nut from loosening up.


I do have another method of building a fuel pump and a electric motor. But most would say it dangerous. I've built a pump (gear driven) and electric motor when fueling my waste oil burning stove. This pump and electric motor could be used to pump diesel fuel. I have a you-tube video of it. It will move 6 gpm of waste motor oil. I'd say it would move 10 gpm of diesel. The video does not show it pumping waste motor oil, but it will give you an idea. Under my you-tube name at the top right, click on "more info". That will explain what I used in making this pump and electric motor.

Maybe something for you to think about.

YouTube - Waste Oil Burning Stove Oil Transfer Tank And Pump

Thanks,
Cliff

Wow.

And I thought melting a hole and sticking a screw-eye in it was "cutting edge" vent technology...

 

[LetsRoll]

1*You mean something like this:

Yes

2*When empty I call the fuel man and have him come by and fill it with the red off road fuel.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If i took anything to get filled it would be the third drum in the picture.
When I got back with it I'd drop the end of the hose hanging on the green hanger into the drum while it's still in the truck and use this pump to pump the fuel into the second drum pictured.
Next I simply set the empty drum back in the corner wher it was .

I just take mine and load it on my trailer, take an have it filled and return home (my fuel depot is only three miles up the road). I then take the tractor and unload it off the trailer. My tractor is big enough to handle a 55 gallon poly drum filled with diesel.

 

[LetsRoll]

Wow.

And I thought melting a hole and sticking a screw-eye in it was "cutting edge" vent technology...

Consider yourself lucky...learned something new didn't you?...lol

We all need to learn the new cutting edge ways of todays society. If we dont, we'll fall to the waist side. And if that means reinventing the wheel. So be it.

 

[LBrown59]

Yes

1*I just take mine and load it on my trailer, take an have it filled and return home (my fuel depot is only three miles up the road).
2**I then take the tractor and unload it off the trailer. My tractor is big enough to handle a 55 gallon poly drum filled with diesel.

1*I can take a drum to my fuel guy and get it filled with red off road or he will deliver it to me.
Since a 55 gallon drum of it cost me the same picked up or delivered I don't waist my time and gas going after it.
2*I considered this option until discovering it was far simpler and easier to use the pump to unload the fuel off my truck.

 

[LBrown59]

Yes

Do you have any pictures of it?
I'd love to see your set up.

 

[LBrown59]

I would love to see your set up.
Could you post some pictures of it.
L . B .

I have a 110v diesel pump mounted on a 55 gallon poly drum. When empty, I load it up on the trailer and take it into town and fill it with diesel. .
Cliff

 

[LetsRoll]

I would love to see your set up.
Could you post some pictures of it.

I'll get some pictures this weekend.