58 MPG by 2032

   / 58 MPG by 2032 #221  
Just think how much fuel would be saved if Big Rigs were limited to 65 mph…. !?
Yea, keep them out of the passing lanes, acceleration to pass a few cars or that other truck uses more fuel than many miles traveled. Trucks in the third lane from the right on a four- lane road are always over the posted speed limit.

Ron
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #222  
Lower speed limits across the board to 65mph. There is a huge saving to be had everywhere.
No no no no no... Drive across Texas for long distances at 65mph or less and you will start to doze off. We have 75mph and even 80mph stretches of road. When they lowered the speed limit to 55 back in the 70s it was very painful. It is very common for people to drive several hours each way to go somewhere here.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #223  
Only if you leave late and have to be somewhere at a certain time. I see that up here in Michigan as well. I like to drive 5 below the posted limit here which is 70. At 65 I get my best fuel mileage and fuel isn't cheap here or anywhere for that matter and it will be going up in cost as well.

You want to go fast, no problem, why I stay in the right lane 99% of the time. I will get in the left lane to pass a slower vehicle, usually a truck and I will kick my speed up to 2 over the limit until I get around that vehicle and then I'm back in the right lane at 65.

Additionally, on the interstate and on unobstructed 2 lane roads, I drive on cruise control all the time. get my best mileage on cruise and my speed stays constant as well.

If I have to be somewhere at a certain time, I always depart with plenty of time to get there. It all has to do with common sense.

'Idiots' and I use that term lightly, fly by me at 10-15 over the limit here all the time and I think to myself..
Glad I'm not paying for your gasoline (or diesel). Besides, at 5 under I don't have to be concerned with getting a speeding ticket either and the roads up here suck, so at 65, I can actually dodge the numerous potholes, which I do. No point in pounding my suspension to an untimely death.

In reality, the only place you have to be is in the ground eventually and driving like a maniac can get you there much quicker.
I could get my 2013 F150 4x4 with the 5.0 and crappy low rolling resistance non off road get stuck tires to read 22 mpg on the computer if I stayed below 55mph and kept my foot out of it. I didn't buy the truck to get 22mpg, but to do work. If I were on a busy highway and tried that hypermiling bs I would get run over here. You have to drive the conditions. Where I live if you drive 5 mph below the speed limit you cause a traffic jam and may cause an accident as people try to go around you. It is one of the perks of having millions of people moving to Texas.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #224  
I believe California's history of energy woes has everything to do with market manipulation (Enron) and transmission, and nearly nothing to do with the actual sources of power generation. It's a horribly mis-managed state on every front, but I think your blame is misplaced, here.
When CA deregulated the electricity market in the 90s there were many problems. Lawsuits were filed over price gougning and supply. They manipulated the markets.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #225  
Well, can you show why, with all the time they have had, they haven't fixed their distribution problems by now? The state is so badly mismanaged that it's no surprise they can't make a smooth transition to renewables without making a mess of things. If they can't manage water, wildfires and crime how are they going to handle something as infinately more complex as energy transition?
It's jsut like everything else. They need to raise taxes more to pay for the upgrades.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #226  
Actually we do have sufficient capacity in our power grid, because most vehicles charge at night when the grid isn't being used for other purposes. When a shill for the fossil fuel folks tried to make that point at the last annual meeting of our rural electrical co-op, the folks from the engineering department just shrugged. They're not worried about increased off-peak demand. It just makes used of unused capacity.

Currently, 60% of our electricity is produce by fossil fuels. That's not zero, but neither is it a "huge" percentage. That number will come down as more renewables come on-line, and it helps that EVs use that fuel about twice as efficiently as ICE vehicles.
That won't work in Texas. We have temps in the 90s at midnight during summer. There is no solar being produced at that time. ERCOT keep telling us to limit power usage. What will happen with a million EVs charging overnight? I do realize some solar farms now charge batteries to pull power from during times where we don't get enough sunlight. I'm not turning off my a/c for people to charge EVs.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #227  
Ban private jets.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #228  
That won't work in Texas. We have temps in the 90s at midnight during summer. There is no solar being produced at that time. ERCOT keep telling us to limit power usage. What will happen with a million EVs charging overnight? I do realize some solar farms now charge batteries to pull power from during times where we don't get enough sunlight. I'm not turning off my a/c for people to charge EVs.
Solar will never be a sole source of electricity, but it may be a good adder for augmenting peak summer cooling demand, as the peak demand for cooling aligns pretty well with peak production from solar. Nukes to carry that midnight base load, with solar (and others) to add daytime peak capacity.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #230  
If y'all gonna ban anything why not start with the clowns in
congress??????????

willy
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #231  
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #232  
EPA

They have been busy this week...

They just fined Gorilla Performance a million dollars and the owner could be facing up to two years in jail.

Was on their site a while back looking for a new exhaust for the Cummins on my 03 but they don't carry exhaust.

They are hitting the diesel shops hard. Gonna mess around and see a bunch of hillbillies drag their 7.3, LB7, LLY, LBZ out of the woods and build some 700HP coal rollers. I know the demand for pre emission diesels is sky rocketing. I'm so sick of these trash bag politicians. Ship kids to a island and meh no problem, remove your EGR and you can expect a armed raid. Absolute scum.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #233  
I'll give up mine, when you give up yours.

Seriously, any talk of banning one luxury over another can turn into a slippery slope, pretty quickly.
My comment was a poke at the climate change adherents who want us to eat bugs, drive EV's and ban gas stove while traveling across the planet in private jets that have a carbon footprint in one trip more than your car has in a lifetime.
 
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   / 58 MPG by 2032 #234  
How many vehicles get 58 mpg now? Will electric vehicles somehow get factored into that. Between this new standard and all the standards on all the home appliances things will get expensive.
Electric vehicles actually run on coal or nuclear power, or a combination of both.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #235  
I wasn’t happy to see the Challenger going to be replaced by an electric. It will be fast so I thought it might be OK. Then I saw a video of some idiot designer talking about the “exhaust” on the new EV performance car. He went into all the details. I just wanted to find the guy, slap him around and make him admit that “exhaust” is just making fake noise. It’s an electric car, at least have the guts to leave the fake engine noise out. I lost all respect for them when I saw the video.
Ford has said that future ICE Mustangs will be rev-able from the key fob. As though they aren't noisy enough now, owners will be revving their engine from the kitchen table over coffee. Why?
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #236  
Ford has said that future ICE Mustangs will be rev-able from the key fob. As though they aren't noisy enough now, owners will be revving their engine from the kitchen table over coffee. Why?
I suggest you watch Idiocracy. Its not fiction its a prophecy.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #237  
You do know the 'litmus' test as to whether a big truck will run or if they are slugs don't you?

Just look at the speedometer. It it goes to 80, it's a slug truck. If it goes to 100, it's a runner.
Well, after putting in over 20 years with tractor trailers and 80 plus mph, I got news for you, 80,000lb truck running 80 plus is down right dangerous, even on the interstate. Mine will run 87 but you have to calculate stopping distance when some idiot does something stupid in front of you. I am not a fan of limiters in any way but 80 plus is just not ever needed.
 
   / 58 MPG by 2032 #240  
Electric vehicles actually run on coal or nuclear power, or a combination of both.
That’s sort of claiming your chainsaw runs on 2-stroke oil alone. Of the 4 Billion megawatt hours of electricity we produce each year, roughly 0.8 billion of that comes from coal, which is even less than the fraction of our electricity coming from renewables.

As to nukes, bring it on! EVs charging overnight will increase off-peak base load, and finally permit us to actually use nukes for a larger fraction if our daytime demand, further diminishing coal. Good.

This has already been hashed out, just a few pages back in this thread:

 

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