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[SixHoeBob]

$15,000.00 - you are missing a zero(place holder). T1-11 is the worst option for siding. Plywood and weather do not mix well. Quikcrete for footers! :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Quikcrete/Sakcrete a.k.a. CrapCrete/SuckCrete. Footers are supposed to be one continuous homogeneous pour, not a collection a poorly mixed blobs. A wood burner puts heat into a room, sometimes they burn the room/house. A fireplace sucks all of the heat out of the house and is expensive to build. I have a cast iron tub in stock.

Average price for a properly designed and installed septic system -
$15,000 +/- (usually +).

There is a national building code. I am guessing it applies to everywhere in the nation.

The only correct idea so far has been to avoid paying interest. :thumbsup:

 

[ShannonCole888]

I disagree about the T1-11 5/8 in GP Siding. That stuff is pretty durable, and with the right water sealant or paintjob, ought to last long enough. It maynot be as long lasting as vinly, but it can take a hit better, vinyl can get holes in it, and be difficult to find a replacement piece.As for the fireplace, it has to be built correctly, to work correctly. If you build the fireplace on the side of the house, you will have the problem, of the chimmney getting cold air in it, and will have smoke blow back in your house. A fireplace should be centered in the middle of the house, so the chimmney can have an insulated barrier, to prevent this common problem. The chimmney needs to be straight vertical from the fireplace bottom, all the way to the top. Yes, a fireplace needs to be cleaned, but I like them better than a wood stove, though I like wood stoves. Price wise, you can get a standard boxwood stove, for about $175.00, not including chimney piping, or reclaimer, but for a larger one your looking at about $500.00-$2,000.00 depending on what kind you get. With a fire place you just have to pay for the block,brick,mortar, and concrete, and a few other things, and do the work. I like the look of a fireplace vs, a woodstove, though the woodstove may be the easy way to go. I don't always do things the easy way, if I believe the harder way is better altogether. Quickrete, for footing will do, but I understand what you mean about one continuous form, poured at one time. I don't know how much a load of concrete poured in a form will cost right now. I agree with you though, about one solid slab form though. If it isn't to expensive, or too much of a hassel, that is the way I will likely go. Notice the slabs left behind in Joplin after that EF5 Tornado ? Might want to consider anchoring the house to those slabs securely, though 200mph winds would likely shear about any house apart. About the strongest winds we get around here would be about 90mph, unless it's a first. 90mph is about the strongest winds I have ever heard of in WV, of course it is the mountain state. We get flooding,and mud slides, and the occassional wind storms, with about 50-70mph winds, with real strong wind storms being 80-90mph winds. These are not everyday conditions though, but tend to come around annually, in the fall, spring, summer, and maybe even in the winter during a blizzard. With the way things are, and the times we live in, freak storms, and natural disasters isn't a big suprise, so prepare for what you believe could happen, if it isn't something like a Alien invasion, though that o'l devil trys anything, and everything he can against God.

 

[ShannonCole888]

$15,000.00 should do for building materials for the house I plan on building. I have done quite a few estimates in the past, and they were very thourough. I sought some experienced expertise, and figured out about most of the practical costs, and added additional for unexpected costs, so $15,000.00 should be a real close estimate. As for $15,000.00 for septic, never heard of septic costing that much, more like $2,500.00.. I would build an outhouse before I would pay $15,000.00 for sewage, somebody is getting robbed big time..!

 

[ShannonCole888]

This isn't exactly what I am doing, but check this video out. Notice how much he only pays..YouTube - ‪How to build a 14x14 solar cabin‬‏

 

[johnrex62]

$15,000.00 should do for building materials for the house I plan on building. I have done quite a few estimates in the past, and they were very thourough. I sought some experienced expertise, and figured out about most of the practical costs, and added additional for unexpected costs, so $15,000.00 should be a real close estimate. As for $15,000.00 for septic, never heard of septic costing that much, more like $2,500.00.. I would build an outhouse before I would pay $15,000.00 for sewage, somebody is getting robbed big time..!

Septic systems can vary in price dramatically due to soil conditions and local regulations. My father was a homebuilder and I can recall some of the more difficult septic systems he had to have installed. The most expensive I can recall was upwards of $25K due to the limestone that had to be blasted out to lay the laterals. Back in the 70's a "normal" system priced out much closer to the $2500 range when installed in deep soil with a good perc rate.

My own system ran a little over $6K because my property is low and close to a river. We had to bring in a lot of fill because my clay soil perc rate was too low. I also had a dual leach field installed to prolong the life of the system. My system was sized to handle a 2600 square feet, 3 bath house. It is significantly larger than necessary for a 900 sq ft 1 bath house would require.

 

[SixHoeBob]

$15,000.00 should do for building materials for the house I plan on building. I have done quite a few estimates in the past, and they were very thourough. I sought some experienced expertise, and figured out about most of the practical costs, and added additional for unexpected costs, so $15,000.00 should be a real close estimate. As for $15,000.00 for septic, never heard of septic costing that much, more like $2,500.00.. I would build an outhouse before I would pay $15,000.00 for sewage, somebody is getting robbed big time..!

Unfortunately, there are not very many people to rob lately...

Tell D.E.P that you refuse to pay over $2500.00 for a septic system. I am sure they don't care. To get an occupancy permit, the house will have to pass a final inspection. At some point in time prior to the final inspection, you will need the S.E.O. to sign the sewage permit saying the system was installed as per the design.

The obvious solution is to buy property with an existing functional septic system. It is hard to take a warm shower in an outhouse.:laughing:

 

[ShannonCole888]

If there is any regulation, that says I have to pay anywhere near $15,000.00 for sewage control, I will find ways around it, clearly because this would be a money skeem, not good regulating ! Trying to require a person pay $15,000.00to properly dispose of human waste is taking advantage of a person, abusing your authority, and making yourself unfit to be obeyed or reasonably respected. I live in Southern WV, I have never heard of a price anything like that around here. I live in the country, and I plan on buying property in the country. Yes, some places do already have those things installed. I would build my own. If any D.E.P. official actually thinks $15,000.00 is a right price for something like a leech bed, and a septic system, they are working for the devil, and I don't respect the authority of the devil..It's waste, paying that kind of money to properly dispose of human waste, when you could just dig a hole, and put it in the hole is just plum ignorant. I am a Christian, I submit to the authority of God, not the corruption in the world, that is clearly of the devil. Anyways, the way I see it, it's my property, I worked for it, paid for it, and no one is going to tell require me to accept this as the law..!..lol I honestly don't think it would be anything like in price. I wouldn't have one if it cost that much. I don't care if meets their standards or not, if they want to pay for it, then that is ok, but you aren't going to steal from me, and then say it's right to do so..

 

[ShannonCole888]

I mean if this country has come to such corruption, then prepare to see more places like Joplin, Missouri, New Orleans, Tuscalosa, Tennesse Floods, Georgia tornadoes. Hurricane season hasn't even got here yet. I mean God will pour out his fierce wrath on this country. I mean look at the debt, $14,000,000,000,000.00 dollars or something. What kind of responsible leadership digs a pit like that, and trys to make the innocent pay their debt ? It's a no wonder China, and Russia are working as we speak on a plan to annihilate the U.S.A.. They don't want America borrowing money from them, and never paying it back, then try to tell them what to do. I am dead serious about this.

 

[AchingBack]

Unfortunately, there are not very many people to rob lately...

Tell D.E.P that you refuse to pay over $2500.00 for a septic system. I am sure they don't care. To get an occupancy permit, the house will have to pass a final inspection. At some point in time prior to the final inspection, you will need the S.E.O. to sign the sewage permit saying the system was installed as per the design.

The obvious solution is to buy property with an existing functional septic system. It is hard to take a warm shower in an outhouse.:laughing:

Did you not watch the 14x14 solar cabin video. Shannon Cole simply wishes to be a free man, and harm no one in the process. He is a rare man indeed. Give me liberty, or give me death. And, if you want a warm shower in an outhouse, move to the bottom floor, .

Shannon, you should ask the administrator to move the cabin construction part of your thread over to the projects. You will get much more valuable input. I wish you much success.

 

[ShannonCole888]

I mean I am serious you guys. I know we try to mind our own business pay our taxes, live reasonably, and our **** government ! or rather damned government wants to go invade middle eastern countries talking about ridding the world of terrorist, and dictators, yet what is the first priority when they get over there..??? your guessed it OIL ! Iraq, Afgahinstan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan.. It's all circulating around the same greed, and control ambition. I mean how many of you have realized 911 wasn't a face value ordeal ? Sarcastically speaking: " I mean your national security is in jeopardy " I mean our leaders paint a picture of a villian over in the middle east like, Saddem Hussein, who was hanged on tv. I mean you have ***** Bin Laden, who they shot in the head, who's picture was revealed to the media. I mean burying him at sea ??? Just sounds supscious to me you guys. You would think they would keep his body on hand, or something you know. I mean this stuff is really called in to question. Now who is it Gadahfi ? I don't know all the events of the future, but will the west invade some other middle eastern country after the next bad guy, that they have to destroy city upon, city, and slaughter 100's of thousands of civilian people. Do we really think God will look the other way ? They can say it is justified, but I really doubt it is. The truth always surfaces, sooner or later. I would assume a lot of you all feel similar I sure at least hope so. Now isn't a time to support all this corruption, that is for sure. Paying $15,000.00 for a septic system, just brings all this into remembrance, that goes uncorrected. I mean do the Bush's, Clinton's, and Obama set down somewhere, thinking they know God will never forgive them for such things ? Not saying that can't be forgiven, but do they make an agreement with ****, and just do as they please, and is this the fruit of their labor ? I mean America shouldn't be like this..

 

[ShannonCole888]

Another thing, people around here dont get building permits. They build there own leech beds, that is how it works around here. Not saying I am planing on doing things illegal, but if sensible judgement says it's also a crime to abuse your authority, and rob law abiding citizens, then I don't know of any legal regualtions on a septic system that requires a $15,000.00 fee, you get my drift..

 

[ShannonCole888]

I mean isn't it the people's responsiblity to stand up for what is just, and right, take a stand against deceit, and corruption ? I know God, I know the Bible, and I know people have a responsiblity to obey laws, but it is also written, that corruption would take place in these places, and that we should discern what is really right, and what is really wrong. The devil takes people under his control who are willing to do his bidding, that includeds rulers, pastors, churchs, and institutions. Did't prayer use to be in school ? What is all this " In God we Trust " on the dollar bills ? Or " One Nation under God, in the visible ? " You can put God's name on anything, but it doesn't make it so. One of the ten commandments says, " Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain " That is exactly what is being done, when people serve money instead of God. The love of money is the root of all evil. I mean if you put God's name on something, you better make sure, he approves, or there will be severe consequences.. " For the Lord thy God will not hold the person blamless who takes his name in vain " GD, by the way is not the only way to show disrespect for God's name. When someone claims to know Jesus Christ, they are taking responsiblity for a representitive of God, if they do corruptly, God will reveal his dissapproval. God is not a respect of persons. Look at all the bloodshed in ******. God's wrath has been on them ever since they had the Romans crucify Jesus. The Romans trampled their city to ruins, the Holocaust, the constant violence overthere today. There is allkinds of bloodshed. I mean is this what God wants ? No one is what God is, that is why he is to be feared, and respected. God is greater than ourselves, that is why we are to respect him as such. God is not some small man, like a president, God is an Almighty Creator, who made the Heavens, and the Earth, the stars, and the Universe, The Mountains, and the Seas, the woodlands, the meadows, the fields, and the Eagle.. I mean, people can't speak this into existence. There is no comparison, so God is to be feared. The wisest man of the Old Testament, King Solomon, said at the end of this life, his conclusion, was to fear God, and keep his commandments.. this is the whole duty of man.

 

[ShannonCole888]

Since I am discussing it, I would also like to state that. When you put God's name on something, that doesn't reflect his ways, or views, and cause people to error, or be misslead, you will be held responsible, and God's wrath is revealed from Heaven, against all manner of ungodliness upon those that hold the truth, in unrighteousness. That means people who know enough to know better than to do evil things, and do them anyways, putting God's name on it, giving people the wrong impression about God. This provokes God severly. Someone might say something about me commenting on Joplin, but a wise man would fear God, and depart from wicked things. God is loving, but if a father didn't correct his children, he wouldn't love them. Spare the rod, spoil the child. Chasten thy child while there is hope, to save his soul from ****.. **** isn't just a hard way to go, as a path of life. **** is an eternal place for those God deems wicked in his sight, when they die, and he judges them. Fear God, it is for your own sake..

 

[ShannonCole888]

I put in the word h e l l, but sheol will work just fine, that thing blocked my words

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Hey keep talking to yourself.

I am going to start up my 2WD backhoe and try to get the metal roof out of the fire so we can put it out if the wind gets up. :thumbsup:

 

[ShannonCole888]

What do you mean exactly, keep talking to yourself ? I believe America is falling more, and more into sin, and I believe you will see more, and more of God's wrath revealed in time to come. I am a Christian, and I believe in identifing the evil that is going on in this world, that people might realize the wrong, and turn to what is right, that God may heal the land. Terrible, and dreadful things are going to happen, and it's a heavy burden to carry, if people only knew.., but they have to believe to know.

 

[wade simpson]

Oh my goodness, what happened to the topic of the original thread??

 

[tractorboy5500]

Oh my goodness, what happened to the topic of the original thread??

:confused2::confused2: I dont know.

 

[silvertramp]

Weren't you guys recently Raptured? You musta missed the bus.

 

[SPYDERLK]

What do you mean exactly, keep talking to yourself ? I believe America is falling more, and more into sin, and I believe you will see more, and more of God's wrath revealed in time to come. I am a Christian, and I believe in identifing the evil that is going on in this world, that people might realize the wrong, and turn to what is right, that God may heal the land. Terrible, and dreadful things are going to happen, and it's a heavy burden to carry, if people only knew.., but they have to believe to know.

You have to be making this up.