40x60x14 Shop

[JHurt]

Both work-I just preferred the OSB pricing (and look). I considered so metal but decided to be consistent all the way to 14’. Will be finishing the band at 8-12’ this weekend from my cheapie HF scaffold. Did get a suggestion from the wife to add a man lift to our collection of equipment

My builder is 100% against OSB. I'm not sure why. It's so bad that I think if I said there was no other option other than OSB for me, that he would just build the building to that point, and then say have someone else do the OSB for you!

 

[EddieWalker]

OSB had some issues when it first came out a few decades ago, but it's been the standard for a very long time now for sheathing and decking. On sheer strength, it's equal to good quality plywood of the same thickness and superior to construction grade plywood because of all the voids in plywood and frequency of delaminating. For the same reason, it's better for decking and holding shingles in place because it doesn't have the voids in the center or the bottom layer blows off when the nail goes through it. I love plywood for a lot of things, but not so much for a shell around a house.

 

[ovrszd]

Good explanation Eddie. Us non-builder types don't know things like that!!!

 

[RayfromTX]

If OSB is kept dry it is a fine product. If it gets wet it rots quicker. If you use a superior grade such as advantech it is superior to plywood in every way. It can take weeks of rain on a deck without delaminating or rotting. I have used it outside unprotected on a ramp leading to my project for over a year. Plywood would have lasted 6 months. Osb would have lasted 2-3.

 

[747driver]

OSB had some issues when it first came out a few decades ago, but it's been the standard for a very long time now for sheathing and decking. On sheer strength, it's equal to good quality plywood of the same thickness and superior to construction grade plywood because of all the voids in plywood and frequency of delaminating. For the same reason, it's better for decking and holding shingles in place because it doesn't have the voids in the center or the bottom layer blows off when the nail goes through it. I love plywood for a lot of things, but not so much for a shell around a house.

I used OSB on the beach house I built near Galveston in 1984. One of the first customers to use the new OSB. It lays flatter than plywood and as you said....has no voids. Just keep it dry and it will perform well. Its all I use for sheating. Floors always get Advantec though if there is a going to be a issue with being exposed to the weather, that product is superior ! Yes, the beach house got destroyed by hurricane IKE in 2008 !

 

[JHurt]

Not much to report from yesterday. Looks like they got the grade work done for the apron out front. Rest of the windows are in. And they started framing the bathroom.

 

[aczlan]

Not much to report from yesterday. Looks like they got the grade work done for the apron out front. Rest of the windows are in. And they started framing the bathroom.
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How much weight can you put on the roof of that bathroom? That's a lot of studs in not much wall.

Aaron Z

 

[JHurt]

How much weight can you put on the roof of that bathroom? That's a lot of studs in not much wall.

Aaron Z

I am going to mount my 60 gallon air compressor up there.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I'm surprised at how much has been done in so little time.

Enjoying the build. Love the pics. Thank you.

 

[JHurt]

Crew was working on a house south of here today, so no progress to show. We are trying to teach Winston how to be a shop dog though!

 

[ovrszd]

Bring him down to the farm to practice dog door use!!!

 

[woodlandfarms]

OSB had some issues when it first came out a few decades ago, but it's been the standard for a very long time now for sheathing and decking. On sheer strength, it's equal to good quality plywood of the same thickness and superior to construction grade plywood because of all the voids in plywood and frequency of delaminating. For the same reason, it's better for decking and holding shingles in place because it doesn't have the voids in the center or the bottom layer blows off when the nail goes through it. I love plywood for a lot of things, but not so much for a shell around a house.

Eddie. Here in the PNW our buildings are subjected to a lot of rain before getting enclosed. For a litttle she shed I am building for the wife I chose Plywood due to bad experience with OSB in the rain before (1996 OSB). Has it changed enough to withstand prolonged exposure to rain (2 weeks worse case?) The plywoood we got wasn't that great this time around, seems like wood just isn't what it used to be. Also, would you consider OSB for inside wall paneling for a shop?

 

[woodlandfarms]

JHurt. Can you inform us about how you are going to use the radiant heating? What is driving it? How cold do your winters get in MO?

 

[JHurt]

JHurt. Can you inform us about how you are going to use the radiant heating? What is driving it? How cold do your winters get in MO?

The shop is going to completely finished, and heated all the time. It will have a hoist so that I can work on stuff evenings and weekends. I have a Jeep that been converted to a 100% off-road wheeler. I have three girls that are all starting to drive. A couple of side by sides, and an atv, as well as my tractor. So I have plenty of stuff to keep going, and work on. I’ll spend almost 100% of my weekends out there, welding, cutting, and generally working on stuff. I’ll just leave the heat on all the time, as I’m told it’s really efficient once the concrete gets warmed up. We have temps below zero, although rarely for an extended period.

 

[JHurt]

Eddie. Here in the PNW our buildings are subjected to a lot of rain before getting enclosed. For a litttle she shed I am building for the wife I chose Plywood due to bad experience with OSB in the rain before (1996 OSB). Has it changed enough to withstand prolonged exposure to rain (2 weeks worse case?) The plywoood we got wasn't that great this time around, seems like wood just isn't what it used to be. Also, would you consider OSB for inside wall paneling for a shop?

I’m not for sure of my builder has had a bad experience with OSB at some point, but he does NOT like it! We initially told him we wanted to do the interior with OSB, and he all but refused to do it. As I’ve said previously, I think if I said that was all we were going to settle for, I think he would say that someone else had to finish it!

 

[woodlandfarms]

I was wondering what is providing the hot water for the radiant heating

 

[JHurt]

No progress today either. My guy did stop by and talk about electrical stuff. Lots of outlets, lights, and 220 plugs for the welder. One thing my wife and I have had a tough time deciding on is a security light. I want something to shine across the yard so that I can see the basement door on my way in. Problem is, it will shine DIRECTLY in our bedroom window. Neither one of us want a motion light either as we are afraid critters will kick it on throughout the night. My solution was to put it on a timed switch. When I suggested that to the builder he responded with “I wish I had known that was an issue, I could have put a switch in the basement when I trenched the water and electric”! I NEVER even thought that was an option.

 

[JHurt]

I was wondering what is providing the hot water for the radiant heating

Oh I’m sorry I misunderstood. An on demand propane hot water heater will provide the heat. I have a mechanic friend that runs the same setup in his 40x60x16 shop that he works in for a living. He swears by it!

 

[ovrszd]

I stopped by the Hurt compound a little while ago. It's drafty in there. I touched the pex pipes bu they didn't feel warm at all. So I left.

 

[ultrarunner]

The house I just bought has a basement shop plumbed for radiant hot water... never been used as the previous owner said it doesn't get that cold and the house is well insulated.

I can see where it could be economical to take the chill off in a new well insulated space.