3rd Function grip handle

[SI2305]

Hello all,

I am planning on adding a grapple from EverythingAttachments.com to my JD2305. I know that this is a complex process what with getting the power beyond up and running. I basically have two questions:

Hello All

I think I accidentally posted this on the general forums section, but it more appropriately belongs here. So if anyone knows how to or wants the other post removed, then by all means do so.


But my question is this: I am planning on adding a grapple from everythingattachments.com, but I have the following two obstacles:


1) Is there a cheaper route than either Deere or everything attachments (both in the 750-800 dollar range) to run power beyond (don't have it yet) to
the loader.

2) Secondly, I am kinda choosy about the grapple control. I really like the style of grip found on most deere 3000 and 4000 series. I know that I have a
vastly smaller tractor, but does anyone know if the actual "pistol" grip with remote thumb option is available and if it could simply be stuck on top of
my existing loader joystick rod? I don't mind wires running down the side of the stick--I can easily control that, but the position of the hand on the
control seems ideal on the JD series.

I did go to the dealer, unfortunately I did not speak with someone sufficiently knowledgeable to answer this simple question

Thanks in advance!

SI2305

JD2305, 200CX, Box Blade, Grader Blade, middle buster, homemade rake, LX4, 6" LandPride RFM

 

[Deerherd]

This is a nice one and good people to deal with if the Deere doesn't work out: Scorpion Technologies LTD. - S-Series

 

[MtnViewRanch]

$535 for a diverter kit and $570 for a true 3rd function. Take a look here to see if you will like this control grip. Email me if your interested.

 

[SI2305]

Deereherd,

What is the function of the trigger? It does look like a nice grip.

SI2305

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Deereherd,

What is the function of the trigger? It does look like a nice grip.

SI2305

In my pics, the grip for the rear remotes has 2 buttons and a trigger. There are 3 diverter valves to operate. The trigger operates one of the diverter valves. If you go with a diverter setup, the grip will have a single button, or just the trigger. If you go with the true 3rd function, then there will be 2 buttons.

 

[SI2305]

So if I get this right, the trigger is for a hydraulic diverter setup?

 

[SI2305]

The trigger setup seems ergonomically pleasing. Could I get by with a trigger and one button for the third function?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

The trigger setup seems ergonomically pleasing. Could I get by with a trigger and one button for the third function?

You could, but that seems like it would be odd to me. But what ever you want. Do you really want a true 3rd function? At less than 3GPM, if you were to use all 3 functions at the same time, it would take forever to have the hydraulics move very far. Much easier to do the diverter setup IMO.

Just my :2cents:

 

[SI2305]

MtnViewRanch,

Could I divert from the 3pt hitch to achieve the extra GPM? If so, then my assumption would be that the trigger would disengage the 3pt to operate the lid and I would simply squeeze the trigger any time I needed to operate the lid while at the same time maintaining the other functions of the loader. Does this sound reasonable to you?

SI2305

 

[MtnViewRanch]

MtnViewRanch,

Could I divert from the 3pt hitch to achieve the extra GPM? If so, then my assumption would be that the trigger would disengage the 3pt to operate the lid and I would simply squeeze the trigger any time I needed to operate the lid while at the same time maintaining the other functions of the loader. Does this sound reasonable to you?

SI2305

Your tractor only puts out 2.9 GPM. Does not matter where you get the flow from, that is all the pump puts out. What you propose is not really feasible IMO. :thumbdown: Why do you think that you need to use all 3 functions at the same time? :confused3: Many many TBNers get by just fine using a diverter. Mt 75 hp tractor has 17GPM for the implements. I feel that it is slow enough when using just 2 functions, I can't grasp the need that everyone has with the true 3rd function setup. Most only have 8-10GPM. I can't imagine how slow it must be when they use all 3 functions at the same time.

I will supply you with whatever system you want, just let me know.

Oh, and no you can't use the 3pt system. It is only a one way system and you need a double acting system.

 

[arlen4720]

One thing nice about the Deere one, is that it puts your wrist at a more natural angle...not straight up and down. You know, JD's world class ergonomics.:cool2:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

One thing nice about the Deere one, is that it puts your wrist at a more natural angle...not straight up and down. You know, JD's world class ergonomics.:cool2:

You do not have to have the grip straight up and down.

 

[murphy1244]

You do not have to have the grip straight up and down.

So much for the That!:laughing:

 

[Deerherd]

One thing nice about the Deere one, is that it puts your wrist at a more natural angle...not straight up and down. You know, JD's world class ergonomics.:cool2:

The Deere one puts your wrist in a better position as you lean on the parts counter also, for taking it up the keester at two to three times the price. You know, JD's world class pricing. :thumbsup:

 

[Sysop]

Considering it's just a handle on a metal rod, the metal rod could be bent or re-fabbed in some way to whatever position you like best. Old die-hard hot-rodders never had a four on the floor with a stock shifter, they always did a custom shifter bent around to the best fit for them.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I have no doubt that JD put a lot of $$$$$$ in the engineering of their 3rd function control grip so that will work nice and be comfy on their tractors.

Reminds me of the USA spending over a million $ in the 60s to figure out how to get a pin to right is space. The Russians used a 3 cent pencil. Things don't always need to be as complicated as we make them.

 

[Sysop]

I have no doubt that JD put a lot of $$$$$$ in the engineering of their 3rd function control grip so that will work nice and be comfy on their tractors.

Reminds me of the USA spending over a million $ in the 60s to figure out how to get a pin to right is space. The Russians used a 3 cent pencil. Things don't always need to be as complicated as we make them.

Agreed, there is such a thing as overthinking things. But I'm thinking of a better analogy, Pens in space give an unalterable record of events (same reasons legal stuff is done in pen rather than pencil). The lots of $$$$$$ JD put into engineering a comfy control grip is more akin to the $1000 toilet seats the USA has been known to buy. It can't be THAT much better or more comfortable than a solution such as yours...

Comfort for one may not be for another, so in my mind JD wasted their money (unless to fit you, they happened to get it right, then you can feel super special cause you can be sure JD sunk gobs of cash in making you comfy).

 

[murphy1244]

Agreed, there is such a thing as overthinking things. But I'm thinking of a better analogy, Pens in space give an unalterable record of events (same reasons legal stuff is done in pen rather than pencil). The lots of $$$$$$ JD put into engineering a comfy control grip is more akin to the $1000 toilet seats the USA has been known to buy. It can't be THAT much better or more comfortable than a solution such as yours...

Comfort for one may not be for another, so in my mind JD wasted their money (unless to fit you, they happened to get it right, then you can feel super special cause you can be sure JD sunk gobs of cash in making you comfy).

Yea buts its Green.:shocked::laughing:

 

[Sysop]

Yea buts its Green.:shocked::laughing:

Greene Rustoleum is cheap and good stuff too. If such things truly matter...

 

[arlen4720]

The Deere one puts your wrist in a better position as you lean on the parts counter also, for taking it up the keester at two to three times the price. You know, JD's world class pricing. :thumbsup:

Now that is good humor:stirthepot: