2210 questions

[Anonymous Poster]

Hi

Lots of great info on the site. I've been looking at the 2210 for use on our 3 acres that we will be moving to shortly. Mostly because the FEL will come in handy for snow and landscaping. I also like the 3 pt for the attachments as well.
I've read through many of the threads so hopefully these aren't duplicate questions.

The only downside of the 2210(besides the price) over the smaller garden tractors seems to be the turning radius. Anybody find that to be a problem?

I see there has been a lot of discussion on tires, but are most happy with the turf tires? Do they hold up well if there is a lot of weight in the loader? Do they seem to have enough traction when moving snow? Are chains necessary?

While a snow blower would be nice, I don't really want to buy one right now. Does the FEL take to long to clear heavy snows? Is a blade highly recommended? Front or Rear?


I received an initial quote of $13,500 for the 2210, FEL, and 54C. That seems a little high compared to some of the prices I've seen here. Were there any incentives offered for those that bought for less? How much would you try to deal on this? I'd prefer to use this dealer, close for service and all.

The grab hooks on the loader seem like they would come in handy. How much could I expect something like that to cost?

Thanks,
Ryan

 

[bigpete]

Hi, rcs4150. I'll try to be concise for your sake, and because I'm on my way to "the rack" for the night.

History: Traded JD 445 w/ 60" deck on 2210

Turning radius: While I cannot speak from mowing experience on the 2210 because of seasonal conditions, the 2210 handles almost as "nimbly" as my sweet-handling 445 I traded. I had deliberately landscaped my entire property to accommodate single turn passes with the 445, and I may have to make minor adjustments to the flower beds and tree circles...maybe.

Tires: Tires are a very subjective subject /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif. Your best decision will be based on how you use the tractor for the majority of the hours. I have difficulties making such decisions and, subsequently, have a set of both bars and turfs.

Snow removal; I prefer the front mount blade. This is an unabashed opinion. I have the 210 loader, also. If I couldn't have both, I'd have the loader. Look at what the municipal snow removal people are using inyour city/town for sidewalks and parking lots. They are usually using the right equipment for your region.

Price: Without any knowledge of your region, you are looking at the typical "first blush /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" quote for the equipmernt you are pricing. Based only on my deal, you are $500-$900 on the high side.

Good luck, and good night.

 

[NY_Yankees_Fan]

RCS,

I do not have a 2210, but some things to consider. Take a look at the attachment forum above, a lot of discussion on tires, and snowblower vs. FEL, etc. I do not where you live, but if you get a lot of snow, you can not go wrong with the combination of a FEL and rear 3 pt snowblower. The snowblower moves a lot of snow on one pass and the FEL for close in work. The front snowblower is nice but is expensive, well at least on the BX2200 it is. A snowblower on the BX is about $2500 vs. a 3 pt snowblower for $1000, that is what I paid for a 54 inch unit. Other things to consider regardless of color is loaded tires, weight box for FEL work, block heater if you live in a cold climate, and perhaps a larger alternator if you plan to add lights, which you will, and if you ever add a cab. If you get a snowblower regardless of front or rear, you will want a cab. Some have heaters, radios, wipers, etc etc, depending on how much you want to spend; all these things take more power.

Good luck, remember shopping is half the fun. Regardless of what color you buy make sure you post a picture /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards

 

[mhalla]

<font color="green">Members of my family who have driven my 2210 have all been impressed with the turning radius. It is almost as if people expect it to have a larger turning radius for the tractor's size and they are plesantly surprised when they drive it and experience first hand a tight turn. I have not mowed yet but during snow removal I find it easy to do a "Y" turn within the width of my driveway.</font>

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Hello rcs4150,
Turf tire traction: No problem with the 4-wheel drive engaged. We had 5 inches of snow Wednesday. Using the FEL I pushed the snow down the driveway and across the road (about 160' total) without any wheelspin /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. With all the snow we've had this season here in Western Michigan, I have yet to find a need for tire chains.

FEL snow removal: Very good. The bucket can hold the snow until it's dumped, plus the FEL has the height and reach to dump the snow behind the pile from the previous snow fall. However, a blade can be angled which at times can help clear a path in one pass. If I could have only one, I'd pick the FEL.

Price quote: Recently, JD offered $200 off the first attachment and $300 off a second attachment. You may want to ask the dealer if these incentives are still active, and if he applied them to your quote. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[lynnmll]

RCS4150, From what I have seen for the area that I live in (N. Tx) the price for the 2210 with a FEL, 60 " MMM, and a 48 " Box Blade goes between $12,500 to $13,700 so as you can see a lot depends on your dealer.
JD has some good rates now as well as discounts for adding attachments.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Thanks for the responses. Test drove one over the weekend. It did turn sharper than I expected. Nice all-around tractor. I appear to be in the same boat as JimD. I've been to a couple of dealers and they're not budging on the price either.

 

[JimD]

I'm waiting for one more dealer to call me back with a price. It seems to be the same story at each dealer. No one wants to work on a price with the customer. what it is, is what it is, Could it be the economy?

 

[bigpete]

I think it is simple economics--supply and demand. JD is not assembling many 2210s right now and this serves to to keep the prices up. Nothing sinister, but a common occurrence as a company tries to keep its inventories low, which is the generally accepted practice in manufacturing these days. In a perfect world, a tractor rolls off the assembly line at the very second a new contract is signed.

Regional supply and demand may have more to do with your prices than the JIT concept I just mentioned. If a dealer has five buyers on a string and only three tractors allocated to his dealership in the next few months, he's not likely to just hand over his profit.

In this case you should seriously consider pricing similarly equipped 4010 or 4110, or even a BX, and review the details with the dealer. You will have to suffer through the comparative sales hype in reply, but the dealer knows you might buy a different model or brand that is very close to his model. You might even fall in love with the other tractor in the process, which is okay too. If he doesn't budge and you gotta' have the 2210, you'll pay for it...at least for now.