2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust

/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #41  
Yup you are correct to avoid your chit-hole Krown dealer.My Krown dealer has been using the same guy for my install since 2016.Sorry your are not happy with your dealer.Spend your $$ where you choose.I all keep my $$ with my local Krown dealer as I am very happy with the results.
 
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/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust
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#42  
Same here. 2006 Duramax with a 6 speed manual. I got it a year ago with 110,000 miles on it. It looked great and runs like a top. Found a bubble over a fender well, pulled the flares and there it is.....Rust. You can't see the rust with the flares on but it's coming. Still only 113,600 miles and runs like a new one. Guess I'll run it another year or 2 and go bed searching unless I decide to sell it. The rest of the truck is solid. It came out of North Carolina so I can't figure the rust...unless it was dunked in the ocean or a lake a lot with a boat.
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Super nice. Id love to find an 07 LBZ or a 07.5
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #43  
Also, funny how OEM vehicles are always more desireable used. All that EXTRA stuff someone paid good money for, just makes a vehicle look more tired and old. Like an old lady with way too much makeup! lol And sweat pants that Read JUICY!

HAHA .................
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #44  
I found myself quite pleased last night coming home after a day on the road in my 6.6. Still under 200KMS, purring along at highway speed doing around 1100 RPMs. Fuel gauge took quite a beating, from filled in the morning after 300KMS or so! I never really got used to that. BUT, for occassional use (more and more) I would rather spend a little more on fuel, and drive where I am going, then a lot on repairs and find myself walking.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #45  
My Local Krown dealer was a great consciensious guy. Without telling customers, he sold out and some kids are doing it. So that's it for Krown. Cancelled my annual appointment and will just go to my regular Mechanic (and customer). His stuff actually smells the same. I had actually become kind of suspicious of Krown as they are heavily environmentally oriented. Show me something that actually works that isn't really bad for the planet!

I have to ask, what is a Krown dealer?
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #46  
Major Rust Proofing Franchisee (sp?).
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #47  
It's what the realestate industry keep saying - location, location, location. Over the 38+ years out here I've had six brand new vehicles. The longest resident - 1982 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup - 13 years.

WITHOUT exception - all six vehicles looked like brand new - top & underside - when traded in. I have never specifically washed the underside of any of the vehicles. Actually - I seldom wash my vehicles. After a thorough washing - the vehicle is completely covered in dust & volcanic ash within 24 hours. I wash my vehicles to remove bird poop & cow doo.

Anyhow - the other side of this picture. I gave my 2002 Toyota pickup to my son in 2012. The running boards had dropped off - from rust - and the complete underside showed signs of heavy rust within five years.

I live out in the country. The County Highway Dept keeps their winter sand in heated storage facilities. The never use a speck of salt with their sand and never use liquid highway deicer. My son lives in Spokane. I swear, on a stack of comic books, they mix their winter sand - 50/50 with rock salt. They also use some type of "miracle" winter deicing fluid on the intersections.

I make it a point to drive my new Taco Wagon into Spokane, in the winter, only in the most dire of circumstances.

My new Taco Wagon( 2018 Ram 2500 Power Wagon) is completely undercoated - side to side, front to back. Time will tell if this is a good idea. All I know about this undercoat - it's a LineX product. I take it in to LineX, in Spokane, for maintenance check, annually. Up on the lift - lightly pressure wash the entire underside - then they spray a light coat on the compete underside. Just one of the benefits of an extended vehicle warrantee.

No winter deicing products ever used plus extremely dry conditions = very little rust on anything.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust
  • Thread Starter
#48  
I’m tempted to do the underside of my RAM, but I wonder if fluid film at $5/can in the most vulnerable places and rare, if ever, driving in salt would be nearly as effective?
I had 3 Ford Superduties. The 250 & 350 were used to plow and although they were washed thoroughly after being run in salt, after 10 years, they started showing signs of rust. Not surprised and I was able to keep it very minimal with thorough was washing.
My 550 was never used to plow and was always garaged. Never a speck of rust on the 550. My 3500HD was not used for plowing, no rust on it, either.

90% of rust is the road salt.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #49  
^ I think so. If one could just never drive on salty roads, and regularly wash off the vulnerable areas of the truck, you'd be fine for decades. Salt is the killer, IMO.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #50  
Another short story. Anchorage, AK is famous for its winter weather. It's never gets that cold - think Fairbanks if you want winter cold. Even Doofy, there in Glennallen, sees some really cold wx.

No - it's the way Anchorage get its weather. They get winter snow that melts and creates black ice. A real joy for winter driving. Remember, Anchorage is a costal town - much like Seattle - only colder. So - from our first times in Anchorage - it alway was sand/salt mix everywhere. Cars rusted out so fast - you could have "body drop" on the way to work.

Finally folks wised up and with a bond issue they went from sand/salt to straight sand. The bond issue paid for heated storage sheds for the sand. Salt was no longer needed to keep the sand fluid in the winter. We all understand, don't we, part of the reason for a salt/sand mix is to keep the sand fluid in the winter.

Anyhow - the initial test runs went so well - within five years it was straight sand throughout the municipality. Sure, there was still body rust. But NOTHING like in previous years.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #51  
Beautiful truck, crreed. I have vowed to never pull my OE fender flares and look underneath. When the rust creeps out the top of one, I'll just have to accept my fate. Only 105k on mine as of today.

Thanks Deezler. I was dreading it but went ahead and pulled the flares to see the damage and maybe get an idea of a timeline on bed replacement. Bed looked great until I pulled them.....Dang it. Oh well.... It's just a truck. I don't drive it when there's salt on in the winter so maybe I'll get a couple of years yet.......
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #52  
Super nice. Id love to find an 07 LBZ or a 07.5

Thanks. I looked for over a year for this one. Was really wanting an 8.1 gas but they're just not out there, especially in a manual transmission.....sooooo......Now I've got this Duramax. I like it a lot just not a fan of the diesel motor. I've got a 2015 F150 too so this Chevrolet is more of a toy than a needed truck. Something else will come along soon and I'll probably sell this one.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #53  
Thanks Deezler. I was dreading it but went ahead and pulled the flares to see the damage and maybe get an idea of a timeline on bed replacement. Bed looked great until I pulled them.....Dang it. Oh well.... It's just a truck. I don't drive it when there's salt on in the winter so maybe I'll get a couple of years yet.......

True. Yeah I think you can get a while from it yet. Did you do any treatment while you had the flares off? I would have at least hit it with some rust converting spray paint - it does help slow down rust since it converts the top layer and thus seals out the air. Rust needs air to grow, encapsulate it fully and it will pause.

Funny that you were seeking an 8.1 gas. I specifically sought the 6.0L, to get a few better mpg. It has enough capability for my simple homeowner needs.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #54  
For destruction, SALT can't hold a candle to this BRINE they are using now. Or so it seems.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #55  
For destruction, SALT can't hold a candle to this BRINE they are using now. Or so it seems.

Really no difference except brine is in solution while salt isn't until it mixes with snowmelt. The issue with brine is it gets into electrical connectors if you drive over a freshly sprayed roadway. None of it is good and hot sand works the best but is the most expensive.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #56  
It's what the realestate industry keep saying - location, location, location. Over the 38+ years out here I've had six brand new vehicles. The longest resident - 1982 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup - 13 years.

WITHOUT exception - all six vehicles looked like brand new - top & underside - when traded in. I have never specifically washed the underside of any of the vehicles. Actually - I seldom wash my vehicles. After a thorough washing - the vehicle is completely covered in dust & volcanic ash within 24 hours. I wash my vehicles to remove bird poop & cow doo.

Anyhow - the other side of this picture. I gave my 2002 Toyota pickup to my son in 2012. The running boards had dropped off - from rust - and the complete underside showed signs of heavy rust within five years.

I live out in the country. The County Highway Dept keeps their winter sand in heated storage facilities. The never use a speck of salt with their sand and never use liquid highway deicer. My son lives in Spokane. I swear, on a stack of comic books, they mix their winter sand - 50/50 with rock salt. They also use some type of "miracle" winter deicing fluid on the intersections.

I make it a point to drive my new Taco Wagon into Spokane, in the winter, only in the most dire of circumstances.

My new Taco Wagon( 2018 Ram 2500 Power Wagon) is completely undercoated - side to side, front to back. Time will tell if this is a good idea. All I know about this undercoat - it's a LineX product. I take it in to LineX, in Spokane, for maintenance check, annually. Up on the lift - lightly pressure wash the entire underside - then they spray a light coat on the compete underside. Just one of the benefits of an extended vehicle warrantee.

No winter deicing products ever used plus extremely dry conditions = very little rust on anything.

Never heard of a Fiat Chrysler referred to as a Taco wagon. What does that represent?
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #58  
I figured maybe that salt may not be the only ingrediant in brine.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #59  
True. Yeah I think you can get a while from it yet. Did you do any treatment while you had the flares off? I would have at least hit it with some rust converting spray paint - it does help slow down rust since it converts the top layer and thus seals out the air. Rust needs air to grow, encapsulate it fully and it will pause.

Funny that you were seeking an 8.1 gas. I specifically sought the 6.0L, to get a few better mpg. It has enough capability for my simple homeowner needs.

As a matter of fact I did exactly that. Sprayed what I could get at with the rust inhibiting paint. Don't know if it will help or not but it couldn't hurt. The 6.0L is a great motor too. It's just I previously had 2 2500's with the 8.1 and really liked them....9 MPG and all. I don't put enough miles on anything to worry about mileage though. Still looking for one but I don't expect to find one.
 
/ 2005-2010 Duramax diesels & rust #60  
As a matter of fact I did exactly that. Sprayed what I could get at with the rust inhibiting paint. Don't know if it will help or not but it couldn't hurt. The 6.0L is a great motor too. It's just I previously had 2 2500's with the 8.1 and really liked them....9 MPG and all. I don't put enough miles on anything to worry about mileage though. Still looking for one but I don't expect to find one.

Nice. Yeah I love my 6.0L LQ4, but it could really use an LS2 camshaft swap, electric fan conversion, and a 6L80 behind it instead of the 4L80. Oh well!
 

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