Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor?

/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #41  
I've never had a boat and hopefully never will.
From age 6, I knew my place was on the water, and specifically salt water. There's no other place I am as happy and at ease.

Then I married a woman from western PA, and somehow ended up moving an additional hour from the water, each decade. A cunning stunt, or a...?
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #42  
From age 6, I knew my place was on the water, and specifically salt water. There's no other place I am as happy and at ease.

Then I married a woman from western PA, and somehow ended up moving an additional hour from the water, each decade. A cunning stunt, or a...?
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #43  
I have a 5x8 trailer and this got me thinking, I'll probably just get this & put a ball on it.View attachment 5709791

In my opinion those things are just an accident waiting to happen, but lots get sold.

When we bought this property on of these was chained to a tree (along with a 2-wheel wheelbarrow). Short tongue, so I got one of those 3PH cross-drawbars. Full of water the aerator probably weighs 500 lbs. Even with the lower links all the way down the aerator would push them up on even the slightest decline. Umm... nope!

Utility trailer is pulled with a ball mounted on the straight/center drawbar.
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #44  
I pull mine with my SxS. Same hitch I use on my truck.

I can use the drawbar, but the SXS can pull anything i need to pull on my place, the truck can pull anything otr.
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #45  
I've never had a boat and hopefully never will.

The closest I can get to that example would be pulling the water buffalo with less than a full tank. And if I screw that up, I deserve whatever happens.

Another situation like "the boat full of water" is a dump trailer behind a 3PH, as the load slides down.
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #47  
I tow my dump trailer behind my tractor, but it's a full 4-wheel wagon, so no issues with lifting the hitch.

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/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #52  
The tractors fixed draw bar is often the best and simplest way.
A 3 pt. hitch can be a bit more versatile and with sufficient care and understanding nicer.
The 3 pt. has no down force if the trailer tongue gets light it can lift and actually over lift the lift arms and damage the tractor. Also when traveling down hill and or stopping if the trailer tongue gets higher then the lift arm pivot points the trailer and load will lift the lift arms with considerable force.
A 3 pt hitch should have a means of restricting upward travel.

On my hitch I have a chain which runs down to a clevis on the drawbar, this should prevent excess lift.
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Totally agree! I have used both the fixed draw bar (my preferred location) and a 3ph mounted trailer hitch I had the experience of the trailer pushing my 3ph upward on one of my first uses of the mount. Probably really fortunate for me, as it was new enough to me I was carefully watching everything and stopped right away. This prevented any damage to the tractor.
Now I always when using the 3ph trailer mover mount, I run a chain around the upper area of the mount down to the fixed drawbar.
The problem with the fixed drawbar and pulling a short tongued trailer is it can very quickly get the tractor rear tires into the trailer.
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #56  
I'm sure all these 3 pt setups work great for light/empty trailers, just moving around, but no way I would use it for pulling loaded trailers or doing hard pulls. It's just an accident waiting to happen as it's been pointed out before.

For those using the 3 pt hitch setups, just be careful.

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/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #57  
I would use a 3 point draft bar
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #58  
What can you tell me about it? Seems very useful. Things like size, weight capacity, brand, how operates, price (if you don't mind).
Thanks
It's great. I bought it to move firewood from my wood lot up to the house, since I like to keep all the mess and bugs associated with processing and primary storage at least a few hundred feet from the house. I can load up this wagon and just park it under my porch, rather than playing the old tedious game of unloading wood from a regular trailer or loader bucket into racks at the house.

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The wagon is 4' x 8' with removable 17" high sides made of three separate 1x6's, so you can remove one plank to lower the height of the sides, or all three to make it a flatbed. The front and back walls are also removable, in fact you have to lift out the back wall to dump, easy heavy sheetmetal panels.

I'll have to go and double-check to be sure, it's been at least 10 years since I assembled the thing, but I think corners are bolted on. So also removeable if you ever really needed to, I have not.

It's rated for "2-tons", and believe me... I've had it loaded at least that heavy, many times.

I bought it without the lift cylinder, initially only ever planning to use it for the firewood you see above, but then one year I had to move 110 cu.yd. of mulch with a 0.25 yd3 loader bucket... so 440 trips across my lawn with tiny loads of mulch. That's when I added the cylinder and a log splitter SCV over the rear tire on one side to control the thing from my Power Beyond (always live, open-center) power take-off on the back of my old JD 855 tractor:

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The valve has the auto-return detent, like most log splitter valves, which is real nice for automatically lowering the bed after you've dumped. I can let the auto-return feature lower the bed while I'm busy re-installing the tailgate, so I'm ready to roll right after dumping. Also, having the valve on the tractor means it will work with any old machine having a live loop, no need for third channel controls on the rear of the tractor, although that could work just as well. I like having the valve at the back of the wagon, since that's where I want to be when dumping, in case I need to grab a rake or shovel to coax things out.

The wagon is made by Country Mfg. I don't remember what I paid, it wasn't cheap, but it's a quality item... well worth whatever it cost. They probably have their current pricing posted on their site.

The wagon comes pre-configured for attaching a dump cylinder, so no fab work was needed there. The only welding or fab work I've ever done on this wagon was replacing the ears that attach the drawbar to the front axle steering mechansim, the originals were a bit light and I broke them with my regular maneuver of jack-knifing the wagon onto that porch shown in my first photo.

I probably bought the cylinder and valve from Surplus Center, I used to use them for a lot of my hydrualics, but again... too long ago to really even remember price or details. Probably $300 - $400 for the valve + cylinder, and I'd guess another $150 for the long hoses and couplers.

They also make a regular tandem-axle semi-trailer version of this, which would obviously take less brain power to reverse into tight quarters, but wouldn't be stable when loaded with a few thousand pounds of firewood and not attached to a tractor. Likewise, when moving dirt or mulch, I can disconnect this wagon from the tractor, and use my FEL to load the wagon, with zero concern for it tipping on me.

Oh, and for those talking about using your tractor's drawbar to move wagons... good luck doing that with this rig! When backing an articulated wagon like this, you really need the hitch to be far aft of the rear axle of the tractor, in order to get sufficient swing on the drawbar to steer the thing.

Obviously, there's two steering reversals happening, when you have articulated steering on a wagon, versus a regular semi-trailer. Most people think it's impossible to back these trailers into any tight space, but you can see I do it every 2 - 3 weeks thru or entire heating season, without too much trouble. It does take practice, but it's do-able with the same finesse and accuracy of a regular trailer, by the time you've done it a few hundred times. :ROFLMAO:
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #59  
Make sure the ball is attached to a drawbar that is rigid. Coming down hill with a ball on the 3 point (not rigid) your loaded trailer will shove the tongue up and suddenly take the weight of your rears.... no brakes. On most 4wd tractors, the tractor has to be in 4wd to have front brakes.
 
/ Preferred method to pull trailer behind tractor? #60  
I have a 5x8 trailer and this got me thinking, I'll probably just get this & put a ball on it.View attachment 5709791
I have this with the appropriately sized ball attached. It works, but as others have noted, it has its limitations...as well as its advantages. You can lower the 3 point hitch to put the ball under the tongue, and raise it into the hitch...a great back saver and an easy way to wreck the jack system on the trailer if you screw it up.
 
 
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