Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects

/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #601  
Face it people are not good at cleaning up after themselves in all endeavors.

As for salvage value, depends on labor and transportation costs. I know it costs me most of the value to transport per ton with free labor.
Out here in the boonies most want to charge you to pick up a junk car or other steel recycle.
Is there profit in it or would a company just break even if they paid a living wage for labor?
Will be cheaper to rebuild/replace an older site or start over in a clean fresh location?
I don't have the answers but I do know something newer and "better" will come......

Recycling is a lot like gold mining. The return has to exceed the input. 20 years ago much of the currently mined ground was not feasible to mine but once the prices went up enough it is worth the effort to mine the stuff left behind previously.
I live in Lead country and the price of lead dictated how much mining is actively done....
Only government works to loose money

There are some weird Tax and Tariff code details I cannot go into here that make the Solar PV Salvage valuable, as well.

And the look-ahead on labor is heading towards zero. The robotic everything world. If I were assigned the task, I would probably just use a small group of crawlers and ground mobile robotics picking the old clean. Like ants at a picnic. Because the whole site(s) are put together under standard products and methods, they tend to lend themselves well to automation.

As we have noted before -- Predicting the Future is easy. Predicting it correctly is impossible.

Thing that gives Silicon Solar PV a recycling market is more future Solar PV. Same as EV batteries. If that shifts -- who knows? So far it looks like replacing an existing site (with all the Grid connections and framing in place) will be massively cheaper than new, but in practice - that is decades ahead.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #602  
It will cost you to have a junk car hauled off, ...
We get about $300 for a junk car hauled off around here. More for a truck, less for a compact car.

Except, and this is pretty funny.... There's a local company called Doug's Towing & Salvage. He advertises all over the place

DOUG BUYS JUNK CARS!

He wouldn't buy mine!
You know it's bad if Doug won't buy it. :ROFLMAO:

His reason was because it didn't have an engine, transmission or transfer case. Hey, it had 4 tires and a bed full of scrap metal.

But a local junk yard came out and gave me $200 for it and hauled it off.

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/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #603  
We get about $300 for a junk car hauled off around here. More for a truck, less for a compact car.

Except, and this is pretty funny.... There's a local company called Doug's Towing & Salvage. He advertises all over the place

DOUG BUYS JUNK CARS!

He wouldn't buy mine!
You know it's bad if Doug won't buy it. :ROFLMAO:

His reason was because it didn't have an engine, transmission or transfer case. Hey, it had 4 tires and a bed full of scrap metal.

But a local junk yard came out and gave me $200 for it and hauled it off.

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Travel distance to haul is the factor.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #604  
Anyone else done this Math? Does this look correct? It is CrAzY.

Solar PV + EVs are going to wipe out a massive chunk of US Corn (as well as Oil) production, since about 25 to 40% of US Corn goes to Ethanol.

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Comparing Corn (for Ethanol) to Solar PV + EV, Mile Driven, per acre.

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First, Corn:

180 Bushels per acre. (US Average)
2.5 Gallons of Ethanol per Bushel.
25 Miles per Gallon of Ethanol. (not really, that is Gasoline, but trying to be favorable)

So 1 Acre (180 Bushels) x 2.5 Gallons x 25 Miles per Gallon:

(180 x 2.5 x 25) = 11,250 Miles traveled with Ethanol if burned through an Internal Combustion Engine.

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Now Solar PV + EV:

400,000 Watts per Acre. (tight arrays)
2000 Hours (run-time, average) per year.

400,000 x 2000 = 800,000,000 Watt-hours, per Acre, per year.

At 250 Watt-hours per mile for typical EV:

(800,000,000 / 250) = 3,200,000 Miles.

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3,200,000 / 11,250 = 284 X.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #606  
That would be cool if the corn reaches the Feed market, Now how many EVs can Tesla sell?
Nissan kills $500M U.S. EV plans, focuses on trucks and SUVs

40% surplus is not likely a good outcome -- the Feed market can already buy what it can afford. To burn-off (hahaha) that much surplus will likely take corn furnaces -- these are some serious grim numbers. What else can you do with over 500 Million Bushels of surplus corn? Real Question there. Maybe sell higher and higher Gasohol percentage on the path downward? That could keep the wind-down manageable.

With over 90 Million US acres now going to Corn, and 40% (over 30 Million Acres) going surplus . . . farmland is going to collapse things harder than the Great Depression.

And Yeah, as far as the Nissan link - (also the Leaf folks) the industry cannot figure out where it is going. They are not going to sell more Gasoline trucks with Gasoline now over $4 per Gallon. Who is going to be last idiot to buy a new Gasoline truck at this point? Some where the Greater Fool theory meets its end.

from the same site:


 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #607  
But who would own a Ford..... 🤔
Well guess it would be better than a Leaf or other tiny thing.

Might be good time to get into the corn fermenting business :oops:

Might make your vegan feed cheaper (y) or give you more land to put solar panels. Europe might benefit since they spend a fortune importing biomass for clean electricity.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #608  
But who would own a Ford..... 🤔
Well guess it would be better than a Leaf or other tiny thing.

Might be good time to get into the corn fermenting business :oops:

Might make your vegan feed cheaper (y) or give you more land to put solar panels. Europe might benefit since they spend a fortune importing biomass for clean electricity.

Nissan Leaf morons did not put active Thermal Management (active liquid cooling) on their batteries until finally in 2026 (now -- over 10 years late). Air "cooling" cooks the batteries. These are not the brightest bulbs in the Auto Bidness.

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Running the numbers if ALL Electricity in the US went to "Solar Farms."

(not that we should ever want to do that).

4E15 Watt-hours -- US annual Electricity use.
250,000 Watts per acre -- allowing worse case per acre.
2000 Hours "run-time" per year -- allowing less than 25% Capacity Factor.

4E15 / (250,000 x 2000) = 8 Million Acres. MAX.

With 30 to 40 Million Acres going surplus.

Even taking ALL Electricity to Solar Farms ONLY, directly replacing Corn (they would not -- most would be in Desert Southwest) will not make a dent in the pending Surplus.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects
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#609  
Who, What, Where are these "lake(s)"?

Meanwhile China is not really running "ahead" that much. They are pretty much just on the line of normal improvement on a given technology. The starting points for Silicon Solar PV started in the US. US has just been too dumb, lazy, and greedy to progress it.

Same on EVs. Tesla and start-ups got it going. Then the moron MBAs of the US 3 stooges tried to copy the homework and got it wrong. Meanwhile China put in the work, study, did EVs right, and now lead the world.

Thing to truly understand is this == US is actively, intentionally, and measurably getting Dumb(er).

I know folks (rather than listening and understanding and seeking to improve that) want to rant with USA #1!, and MAGA, and Drill, Baby, Drill, and American Exceptionalism! like a bunch of howling baboons, but NONE of that produces anything other more stupid.

Ever see the movie "Idiocracy?" Turns out that was Prophecy more than Comedy.

Consider when the US Great Dumbing began with Reagan pulling Solar Thermal (water heating) off the White House? That was around the start of the Great Dumbing, and also shows up in the massive accumulation of Debt.

US has consistently been getting dumber since.




US prices rising are from the US money going worth less on the way to worthless. It is the bankers method of covering the Debt. Currency Inflation is an intentional hidden tax on poor and middle people.

This is because US does not pay the bills, runs debt, has become too stupid build things, and wastes all US money on goofball military equipment and misadventures and interest on prior debt, all accumulated from the prior stupidity.

The biggest thing (and hinderance) that harms US is the ambient stupid.




They are not. Rapidly deploying Nukes, I mean. They only had 5% (of generation) or less Nukes to start with. On the present path, they will likely stop at around 10%. Since Nukes have to run full time, they saturate their own market quickly and become not-profitable. US maxed at about 20%, with "Peak Nukes" at 104 Reactors. US is now down to 94 Reactors and the 10% that went away are not even missed.



There is not an Arms Race of AI. There is a massive Capitalist Con-Job going on. It is HYPE. For moron "Investors." Think Dot-com Bubble. Or 2008 Housing Bubble. Have you seen a movie called the Big Short? This is a big circle-jerk for lack of a better term. Maybe catch this clip of Big Short? The casino part will probably make sense?


But for Robotics? This part is pretty simple stuff. A typical US John Deere combine from the 1950s (I had a JD 45 and 55 ;P ) is more complex and energy intensive.

Most robotics run mostly on simple DC motors. Sometimes pneumatics and hydraulics. If you play with Tractors some -- you already understand all of this. If you want them to last longer, and have a budget, you can go with Brushless DC and some Variable Frequency AC Motors, but that is still simple.

Really at school we are building them from surplus DC brush motor automotive parts. Like wiper and window motors. I will put up some pictures of the toys we are building at school.



Coal use everywhere varies by season and load(s). US Coal use goes up in Winter and Summer. But we shut them off for entire months (repairs and rebuilds) in Spring and Fall. The Capacity Factor (% run-time) is based on yearly average run-time.



US aint no poster child in this regard. Called Eminent Domain. Done with pipelines for the Drill, Baby, Drill folks. Corporations over Citizens. The American Way.



It was the emissions that got China replacing all the Old Coal Plants. Have you seen sample pictures of the Air Quality (or lack of) in China a decade or more ago? When you can actually "see" the Air, it is not a good thing. So they decided to clean things up.
Interesting you brought up MBAs being a reason for our setbacks in the EV industry. You can correlate all the big mishaps with PG/E when they went from Engineers leading the company to MBAs. Safety took a back seat as did maintenance. Two of the most important parts of running most businesses. MBA's nearly run everything now days and have for id say 4 decades now. Moving manufacturing out of the country and so on. All decided by those people. Profits are the only thing that matter in todays USA. Especially since retirement accounts are attached to it. Heck companies are allowed to buy back shares to boost prices. This has been going on for 40 years. Its absurd we think this will lead to anything other than our own demise. Add in QE, feds buying bad debt every 1/4. Prime example is the recent willingness to give discount airlines 2.5 billion to help them. Were nearly 40 trillion in debt. Will be by july.

Japan, China and several other countries are not going in the right direction with debt either.

I personally believe that we building up for a big recession. Most likely planned. so that when wheels fall off. The frame breaks. It will ring in a new world currency.

Its explains why there is so much dysfunction in politics today.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #610  
Nissan Leaf morons did not put active Thermal Management (active liquid cooling) on their batteries until finally in 2026 (now -- over 10 years late). Air "cooling" cooks the batteries. These are not the brightest bulbs in the Auto Bidness.

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Running the numbers if ALL Electricity in the US went to "Solar Farms."

(not that we should ever want to do that).

4E15 Watt-hours -- US annual Electricity use.
250,000 Watts per acre -- allowing worse case per acre.
2000 Hours "run-time" per year -- allowing less than 25% Capacity Factor.

4E15 / (250,000 x 2000) = 8 Million Acres. MAX.

With 30 to 40 Million Acres going surplus.

Even taking ALL Electricity to Solar Farms ONLY, directly replacing Corn (they would not -- most would be in Desert Southwest) will not make a dent in the pending Surplus.
Only pending if EV sales explode, and our leaders don't decide biomass in the form of corn is a new green plan. Never underestimate our ability.... for good ideas :oops:

As for Leaf or any other little tin can no matter the fuel it's not in my wheel house. I'd rather ride my ATV than be stuck in one. Had all kinds in rentals and always hated them. Learned to pay out of pocket to rent a real car or truck.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #611  
Might be good time to get into the corn fermenting business :oops:

Sorry missed this. Yeah, that is how I wandered into this.

While I am taking all the New Build equipment straight up Electric -- that is pretty straight-forward.

But I am thinking I would like some novelty, fun elder/older ICE tractorage, as well. More for fun than practical. Probably a Farmall Cub and maybe a Massie-Ferguson 30 HP.

But I really (really, really) do not want to buy Gasoline to feed them. So the ponderance is if I set aside an acre or two for Corn -- can I feed that to them, (E100 Ethanol) and how do the numbers work out? The process (technical) is rather direct as any moonshiner can attest.

Presently all models for playground are leased. Even some with partners will be direct leased, as they need to re-buy land from recent trades, and direct ownership is not real value, to me. So that gives me lots of flexibility for staying portable and light, but I am still tracking Real Estate Prices.

I am thinking the US farmland market is likely to take a huge hit ahead from reduction of the Corn Market. But now pondering the survival path on that may be for the Gasoline Market to increase their "E" levels down the decline.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #612  
Trust me land price are not coming down. Around here what was <1000 per ac 10 years ago is now selling at 10k per ac for hunting land. Nothing but rocks and trees (maybe a hayfield or 2).... Nobody building anything other than stands and food plots.
I have offers almost weekly to buy my 90+.
Good farm land would be prime hunting land and you don't have to share with the public. Someone will hay for you, pay for the right and pay your property tax.
Only new buildings I've seen in 20 years within 20 miles are dollar stores and all on state highway. Most of the county roads are creek gravel and red clay.
Up north where there is farm land, locals are priced out by hunters buying raw farm land.
Note average land here is 120-240 acres and likely surrounded by federal property. No neighbors to worry about and lots of wild life.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #613  
Interesting. Thanks! Yeah, I see the daytime Solar PV saturation is already hitting you.

It is the time between 9pm (21:00) and Midnight that is catching my eye.

That particular 3 hours.

I have conditioned to think TOU peak drops off at 9 pm -- but yours runs until Midnight.

Any insights as to why your peak runs until Midnight?

Mostly I think it arises from demand charges for distribution, and the last (pick a number) number of miles often gets congested. Implicit in that is that, yes, folks are still running HVAC systems in the central and southern part of the state until midnight-ish before the night time radiation cooling causes the air temperatures to drop. So, HVAC demand, plus a distribution surcharge.
Anyone else done this Math? Does this look correct? It is CrAzY.

Solar PV + EVs are going to wipe out a massive chunk of US Corn (as well as Oil) production, since about 25 to 40% of US Corn goes to Ethanol.

==========

Comparing Corn (for Ethanol) to Solar PV + EV, Mile Driven, per acre.

=========================

First, Corn:

180 Bushels per acre. (US Average)
2.5 Gallons of Ethanol per Bushel.
25 Miles per Gallon of Ethanol. (not really, that is Gasoline, but trying to be favorable)

So 1 Acre (180 Bushels) x 2.5 Gallons x 25 Miles per Gallon:

(180 x 2.5 x 25) = 11,250 Miles traveled with Ethanol if burned through an Internal Combustion Engine.

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Now Solar PV + EV:

400,000 Watts per Acre. (tight arrays)
2000 Hours (run-time, average) per year.

400,000 x 2000 = 800,000,000 Watt-hours, per Acre, per year.

At 250 Watt-hours per mile for typical EV:

(800,000,000 / 250) = 3,200,000 Miles.

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3,200,000 / 11,250 = 284 X.

So, in general, yes, that is the math. Left out of that are a couple of factors I think.

The solar array needs to be close enough to a main transmission line to make a feeder line possible, and cost effective.

The transmission line has to have free capacity to take the solar output.

Then you have to account for the losses between the generation site and the customers.

Then you have to account for the transmission, distribution, administrative costs for all of the electric companies between the solar array and the customer.

All of this gets to why certain solar sites are more profitable, are desirable. You can put one anywhere, but due to NIMBY for transmission lines, or utilities unwilling to take power that they don't control, it doesn't mean you can get the power off the property. In the future, that may mean that the PV farm converts the electricity into something valuable on site, like converting biomass to liquid fuel / CO2 to natural gas / hydrogen / mini steel mill / aluminum plant. I could spin a bunch of uses if the 20yr kWh cost is on the order of $1/kWh. Most planners are still coloring well within the lines to my way of thinking. Putting PV powered hydrogen plants in the Permian basin would enable the shipment of crude gas/oil with the hydrogen needed for refining in the downstream refining, creating more finished hydrocarbons per barrel of oil input.

But as a straight up, if you put the PV on your property to charge the vehicles on the farm, and for farm power, yes.

The limits to gasoline/ ethanol blends gets into seals and tubing above E15. You can build an E100 engine; but it will require different materials. E100 is higher octane, but lower energy, so that is also a tuning issue, but these are all well researched and solved problems. Fermentation is a bit more complicated than tossing some corn in water these days, and farm sized ethanol fuel plants are less efficient due to things like increased energy losses due to rather small plant sizes, but you could very much do it. Regulatory paperwork for ethanol can vary by state and by output, so that may be an added cost.

If you decide to go down that path, I would very much keep biogas methane as part of that project. Biogas as tractor fuel requires gas cleaning and compression, but again, doable.

I think a lot of the on farm fuel generation gets into what can be done at a very particular site, with low labor inputs, and low capital inputs that make it pencil out.

There's a large dairy (Fair Oaks) in Indiana that makes biogas to run the dairy and exports excess gas off the property. I know of a few sites in the Midwest where this happens, but it seems to revolve around one farm having the wherewithal to build it for their operation, and for many sites, the optimal biomass capacity number creates excess biogas that can be sold to neighboring properties or businesses.

Whether these operations pencil out gets into the nitty gritty of the cost of capital, labor, and material, vs the alternatives. It doesn't pencil out for everyone. I worked on a ranch that built one in the seventies, and I know simple biogas fermenters on farms were widespread in rural Indian and China in the sixties. It is an old idea, but not without issues.

Yeah, I've been involved in this for a few years.

All the best,

Peter
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #614  
Trust me land price are not coming down. Around here what was <1000 per ac 10 years ago is now selling at 10k per ac for hunting land. Nothing but rocks and trees (maybe a hayfield or 2).... Nobody building anything other than stands and food plots.
I have offers almost weekly to buy my 90+.
Good farm land would be prime hunting land and you don't have to share with the public. Someone will hay for you, pay for the right and pay your property tax.
Only new buildings I've seen in 20 years within 20 miles are dollar stores and all on state highway. Most of the county roads are creek gravel and red clay.
Up north where there is farm land, locals are priced out by hunters buying raw farm land.
Note average land here is 120-240 acres and likely surrounded by federal property. No neighbors to worry about and lots of wild life.
Interesting that people buy land for hunting. In my country and throughout the west we hunt on federal and state lands for free except for the hunting license.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #615  
Interesting you brought up MBAs being a reason for our setbacks in the EV industry. You can correlate all the big mishaps with PG/E when they went from Engineers leading the company to MBAs. Safety took a back seat as did maintenance. Two of the most important parts of running most businesses. MBA's nearly run everything now days and have for id say 4 decades now. Moving manufacturing out of the country and so on. All decided by those people. Profits are the only thing that matter in todays USA. Especially since retirement accounts are attached to it. Heck companies are allowed to buy back shares to boost prices. This has been going on for 40 years. Its absurd we think this will lead to anything other than our own demise. Add in QE, feds buying bad debt every 1/4. Prime example is the recent willingness to give discount airlines 2.5 billion to help them. Were nearly 40 trillion in debt. Will be by july.

Japan, China and several other countries are not going in the right direction with debt either.

I personally believe that we building up for a big recession. Most likely planned. so that when wheels fall off. The frame breaks. It will ring in a new world currency.

Its explains why there is so much dysfunction in politics today.

Yeah, I am sort of harsh on the MBA-class running things. Somewhere after you get a BS in Engineering (many of these morons start there), then we have a choice on the path of advance. Either you go deeper into the Technical -- MS generally, a few PhD -- then you get slotted as an SME (Subject Matter Expert) and get to play with toys. Or you go to the "Dark Side," MBA chasing prestige or money. Yeah, I know that is just my grumpy view of things.

But serious -- the moronic ethics and lack of planning since Reagan onward is just astounding. Per "Back to the Future" -- "Ronald Reagan? The actor? Then who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis? ... I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady!"

If you look at where the Debt started piling, THAT was it. 1970 was the warning -- Peak Conventional Oil. By 1980, US just flipped to full-bore stupid (Drilling, Debt, and Dumb) and more since.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #616  
...

There's a large dairy (Fair Oaks) in Indiana that makes biogas to run the dairy and exports excess gas off the property. I know of a few sites in the Midwest where this happens, but it seems to revolve around one farm having the wherewithal to build it for their operation, and for many sites, the optimal biomass capacity number creates excess biogas that can be sold to neighboring properties or businesses.

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It's an impressive operation. Not only do the digesters produce enough methane to produce the electricity to run the operation, they run their fleet of over the road trucks off of it delivering as far as Tennessee, and a generation station that feeds the grid.

We've been there twice. If anyone ever gets the opportunity to take the tour, I highly recommend it. Take the pig tour as well.

Some stats....

Key Production & Operations Statistics
  • Cows and Herd: Approximately 35,000–37,000 Holstein dairy cows.
  • Milk Production: Approximately \(250,000\) gallons (or \(2.5\) million pounds) of milk are produced daily.
  • Births: Over \(80\) to \(132\) calves are born daily.
  • Land Use: The farm covers 19,000–25,000 acres in Indiana.
  • Facilities: 10-11 specialized dairy farms/barns.
  • Milking: Cows are milked 3 times a day on 72-cow rotary platforms.
  • Staffing: Approximately 400–425 employees operate the farm. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
Sustainability and Technology
  • Waste Management: A state-of-the-art cow manure digester creates enough methane to power the farm's operations, including trucks and buses.
  • Technology: Uses GPS for farming and radio frequency tags to track milk production for each cow. [1, 2, 3]
Agritourism
  • Visitor Experience: Features a "Pig Adventure" and dairy tours, including a dairy farm tour where the public can witness live births.
  • Infrastructure: Includes a corporate headquarters, restaurants, and a hotel. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Other Statistics
  • Swine Operation: In partnership with Legacy Farms, there are approximately 12,000 hogs.
  • Piglet Births: Roughly 250 piglets are born daily
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #617  
Interesting that people buy land for hunting. In my country and throughout the west we hunt on federal and state lands for free except for the hunting license.
You can here as well but private lands let's them put in food plots, permanent stands (shooting houses). Good trails, use game cameras (without them growing legs) and grow trophies. Or so they think.
I personally know a group of 20 that lease 6400 acres in the boot heel (prime farm land) at insane costs for the big bucks that can be there.

When you hunt on public land you may sit in pumpkin patch once the sun comes up (orange required to hunt). Has lot do with people not wanting to walk far from a road/trail, mostly less than mile. There is a lot of public land with no hunters but it ain't easy to get in and harder to drag a deer out.
Personally I learned it is easier to take one in the yard and use the tractor.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #618  
Interesting that people buy land for hunting. In my country and throughout the west we hunt on federal and state lands for free except for the hunting license.
In the northern part of Indiana, there is almost universally 1 road every mile, so the largest chunks are about 1 square mile, 99% privately owned. There are some state game lands, but you have to compete with a lot of folks if you can't get permission to hunt private lands.

We've had many offers to lease our land for hunting, but I let my neighboring property owner hunt it for free, and in return he keeps an eye on it for us.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #619  
Interesting that people buy land for hunting. In my country and throughout the west we hunt on federal and state lands for free except for the hunting license.
Around here most of the land and environment is ideal for row crop farming so there is limited forest land. My uncle lives in NM and when I visited him, I saw little land ideal for farming so it's understandable why it was not used to farm when it was settled and left to the govt.
I remember my dad used to say that he didn't want to live where corn wouldn't grow and his brother didn't seem to care since lives in the NM desert.
 
/ Thoughts on mega wind and solar projects #620  
Around here most of the land and environment is ideal for row crop farming so there is limited forest land. My uncle lives in NM and when I visited him, I saw little land ideal for farming so it's understandable why it was not used to farm when it was settled and left to the govt.
I remember my dad used to say that he didn't want to live where corn wouldn't grow and his brother didn't seem to care since lives in the NM desert.
The Rio Grande Valley and the eastern plains have hundreds of thousands of farmland acreage producing more valuable crops than corn such as chiles, pecans, onions, melons, and dairy hay. NM isn’t dominated by desert, but has more area in the Rocky Mountains and Southern Great Plains than desert.

“New Mexico has over 24,000 farms covering approximately 39 to 43 million acres of land. The state boasts some of the largest average farm sizes in the country, with average operations ranging between 1,600 and 1,800+ acres. Key agricultural areas feature a mix of irrigated cropland, cattle ranches, and pecan orchards. [1, 2, 3, 4]”

 
 
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