Pick WinterDeere's next truck

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Here's the thread;
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/index.php?threads/407627/

 

[Hay Dude]

Never understood this slang. What’s it mean? Around here, this is what we call a “taco wagon”:

https://ftc.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/vendor_images/69af2c220cb31.webp

2500 4x4 Big Horn crew cab 149” wheelbase, Level 1+ off-road

No Cummins? lol

 

[WinterDeere]

I thought that was referring to a Tacoma somehow...

I initially assumed the same, but then saw a thread a while back where Tacoma wouldn’t have made sense, so I was left confused.

No Cummins? lol

No, it just didn’t make sense for my application. An extra $13K with no real benefit, given my low usage miles, and maximum loads. I am not even convinced the cost per mile on diesel is any lower than gas, these days.

 

[ruffdog]

No, it just didn’t make sense for my application. An extra $13K with no real benefit, given my low usage miles, and maximum loads. I am not even convinced the cost per mile on diesel is any lower than gas, these days.

Running empty, 460,000 miles to break even.

 

[WinterDeere]

Running empty, 460,000 miles to break even.

Exactly. My last four vehicles have all been traded with 40 - 70k miles on them. Between rust taking them early, me working from home, and always splitting my miles between at least three vehicles... I will not live long enough to ever see 460k on a single vehicle.

Probably 95% of the people who buy a diesel pickup do it so they can say they have a diesel pickup. Very few truly need or can financially justify the added expense. Certainly no office-worker homeowner weekend warrior like me, even if I end up more toward the extreme blue-collar enthusiast end of that spectrum with my little logging hobby.

 

[Hay Dude]

No, it just didn’t make sense for my application. An extra $13K with no real benefit, given my low usage miles, and maximum loads. I am not even convinced the cost per mile on diesel is any lower than gas, these days.

It was a joke..
We already beat it to death.

 

[CH4Ohio]

Probably 95% of the people who buy a diesel pickup do it so they can say they have a diesel pickup.

Around here, a lot of the kids support the used truck market so they can punch holes in the bed and install smokestacks. A "smoke switch" lets them belch black smoke like crazy. Hard to believe that some kids have this kind of fun-money, but I guess they do.

 

[Jstpssng]

Around here, a lot of the kids support the used truck market so they can punch holes in the bed and install smokestacks. A "smoke switch" lets them belch black smoke like crazy. Hard to believe that some kids have this kind of fun-money, but I guess they do.

I was at the dump yesterday, waiting for my turn to back up to the burn pile. The truck in front of me was an old 2WD Sonoma with whitetail antlers mounted over each door, all sorts of doo dads... and two big stacks mounted in the bed.
It's too bad that he hadn't invested some of that money in driving lessons.

 

[nisaacs]

Probably 95% of the people who buy a diesel pickup do it so they can say they have a diesel pickup. Very few truly need or can financially justify the added expense.

Now that's a WAG if I ever saw one.

 

[WinterDeere]

Around here, a lot of the kids support the used truck market so they can punch holes in the bed and install smokestacks.

Wannabe big rig posers.

Now that's a WAG if I ever saw one.

Of course… but it gets the point across.

This forum has an unusually high fraction of people who actually use their truck as a truck, versus the general population. We are of a diminishing minority, the last 20 years.

 

[nisaacs]

Of course… but it gets the point across.

Right off Cummins web site:

"Nearly 70% of all Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty pickup owners choose the Cummins Turbo Diesel as their powertrain of choice"

I don't think those customers have to justify anything to anyone.

 

[Hay Dude]

Right off Cummins web site:

"Nearly 70% of all Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty pickup owners choose the Cummins Turbo Diesel as their powertrain of choice"

I don't think those customers have to justify anything to anyone.

I remember reading a few years back that even though Ram was 3rd in sales (like that even matters), that Ram had by far the highest percentage of trucks sold equipped with diesel engines.

 

[WinterDeere]

Right off Cummins web site:

"Nearly 70% of all Ram 2500 and 3500 Heavy Duty pickup owners choose the Cummins Turbo Diesel as their powertrain of choice"

I don't think those customers have to justify anything to anyone.

Agreed. Not sure if that was meant to refute what I said, though.

Yes, most choose diesel. No they don’t need to justify it to me. I don’t care that most choosing diesel don’t really need or can’t really justify it, on cost-basis.

I guess the bigger question is, why do you care so much what I think about it? Buy what makes you happy, and don’t **** on me because I didn’t buy what you wanted.

 

[Jstpssng]

I remember reading a few years back that even though Ram was 3rd in sales (like that even matters), that Ram had by far the highest percentage of trucks sold equipped with diesel engines.

I can answer the question you never asked with one word...

Cummins.

 

[Hay Dude]

Agreed. Not sure if that was meant to refute what I said, though.

Yes, most choose diesel. No they don’t need to justify it to me. I don’t care that most choosing diesel don’t really need or can’t really justify it, on cost-basis.

I guess the bigger question is, why do you care so much what I think about it?

We don’t, but we both realize how amazing it is to own a Cummins diesel, and we want others to enjoy one the same way we do.
I understand your logic to buy gas 100%. In fact, more people should own gas trucks unless really heavy towing or 50K miles of driving per year is needed.

 

[WinterDeere]

We don’t, but we both realize how amazing it is to own a Cummins diesel, and we want others to enjoy one the same way we do.
I understand your logic to buy gas 100%. In fact, more people should own gas trucks unless really heavy towing or 50K miles of driving per year is needed.

Thanks. Yeah, I’d be driving a Cummins if I had an operation like yours, towing heavy trailers everyday, or even every week. It’s just not where my usage is at.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I was at the dump yesterday, waiting for my turn to back up to the burn pile. The truck in front of me was an old 2WD Sonoma with whitetail antlers mounted over each door, all sorts of doo dads... and two big stacks mounted in the bed.
It's too bad that he hadn't invested some of that money in driving lessons.

Stacks on a pickup have always amused me, all the more so on a gasser. Were the materials used from Home Depot?

 

[tacticalturnip]

Question regarding modern diesel pickups; if you're just puttering around like the "Sunday driver" 7 days a week how does that effect the engine?

 

[WM75Guy]

Question regarding modern diesel pickups; if you're just puttering around like the "Sunday driver" 7 days a week how does that effect the engine?

We have used 6.6 Duramax diesel pickups and now my 2024 Yukon with the 3.0L Duramax as daily drivers for 30 years. Never had any issues. With a Duramax we never know if or when it regens. Currently have 24,000 miles on the Yukon, combined mileage of 24 mpg. The 2024 GMC 3500HD is only used for towing and feed runs, only has 7,000 miles on it.

 

[deserteagle71]

Question regarding modern diesel pickups; if you're just puttering around like the "Sunday driver" 7 days a week how does that effect the engine?

That can best be answered by this pic someone took of their dash:

And the warning in the owner's manual for a diesel Jeep: