inverter welders

/ inverter welders #21  
I bought this everlast inverter welder some years back. Is it just me, or are these inverter welders just difficult to grasp ? I have been welding since the 70's with a transformer machine, and I just can't seem to catch on using this inverter machine. If you pull back off the arc just a little the arc goes out ! I have to keep a very close ark to keep the rod burning. What am I doing wrong or is it just the way it is with these inverters /
Thanks !
My Everlast machine has a setting called 'Arc Force'. If you have that, try turning it on. My understanding is it will pick up the voltage to maintain current (within a range) to stay lit. I found that I needed to get accustomed to the inverter machine myself.
 
/ inverter welders #22  
I bought this everlast inverter welder some years back. Is it just me, or are these inverter welders just difficult to grasp ? I have been welding since the 70's with a transformer machine, and I just can't seem to catch on using this inverter machine. If you pull back off the arc just a little the arc goes out ! I have to keep a very close ark to keep the rod burning. What am I doing wrong or is it just the way it is with these inverters /
Thanks !
I have a mig, 80 amp inverter, and a saker welder. The rods are the secret. When I bought the saker I bought a bunch of rods. They come with what I call weld all rods. Could not find any locally. I use the saker rods with the inverter and it does a beautiful job.
 
/ inverter welders #25  
I have had issues running 6010 on cheaper inverters.
I have tried the 6010, 6013, and the 7014. The 6013 wasn’t too bad but the 7014 was hard to strike. I’m telling you the Saker rods are really great. They work so well even some one who has never welded can lay a good bead. I won’t use anything else.
 
/ inverter welders #26  
I bought this everlast inverter welder some years back. Is it just me, or are these inverter welders just difficult to grasp ? I have been welding since the 70's with a transformer machine, and I just can't seem to catch on using this inverter machine. If you pull back off the arc just a little the arc goes out ! I have to keep a very close ark to keep the rod burning. What am I doing wrong or is it just the way it is with these inverters /
Thanks !
Try bumping your amps up. I have both an inverter and a transformer welders, both 200amp. The only downside of the inverter is it turns itself off once it gets hot, whereas the transformer welder will go all day. I think some of the inverter welders can do TIG, MIG and stick, and I think those welding types are very different; the welder efficiency is compromised. My inverter welder is stick only and will blow holes as good as the transformer.
 
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My Everlast machine has a setting called 'Arc Force'. If you have that, try turning it on. My understanding is it will pick up the voltage to maintain current (within a range) to stay lit. I found that I needed to get accustomed to the inverter machine myself.
yes. I have that feature and adjust it as high as it will go
 
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I have a mig, 80 amp inverter, and a saker welder. The rods are the secret. When I bought the saker I bought a bunch of rods. They come with what I call weld all rods. Could not find any locally. I use the saker rods with the inverter and it does a beautiful job.
I normally run 6011 because I'm here at the farm and they are just a good all around rod for what I do.
 
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Try bumping your amps up. I have both an inverter and a transformer welders, both 200amp. The only downside of the inverter is it turns itself off once it gets hot, whereas the transformer welder will go all day. I think some of the inverter welders can do TIG, MIG and stick, and I think those welding types are very different; the welder efficiency is compromised. My inverter welder is stick only and will blow holes as good as the transformer.
I have the amps up to about 90-100 on a 3/32 rod it should throw an arc at least 1/8 away from the metal LOL Should hold an arc without having to cram the rod into the work piece.
If I didn't have this inverter, I wouldn't buy one today.

I thought paying a little more at the time and buying this Everlast would do a good job.
I bought this several yrs ago and at that time I was reading where inverters didn't do well with rods, and some not being able to even strike an arc. I then came across this Everlast that was suppose to weld as good as a transformer machine.. I haven't found that to be even close to a transformer machine.

I can make it work if I have to,,, but only if I have to LOL
 
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/ inverter welders #30  
The only downside of the inverter is it turns itself off once it gets hot, whereas the transformer welder will go all day.
This depends on the duty cycle of the machine in question. I had a transformer that would overheat after a half hour and I'd have to wait for it to cool. I had an inverter that did the same.
Then I bought a bigger inverter; doing the same work, it just keeps going, rod after rod after rod.

I was building ship cabins out of 5 and 6mm (1/4") plate, fuel and water tanks too. Tons of steel, boxes and boxes of rod, 1000 yards of bead on one job.

I'm not trained, and I'm not professional; I just did it for myself.
 
/ inverter welders #33  
I’ve had some trouble with 7018 on my inverter Everlast.

Last summer it frustrated me so much that I just quit using it or trying to get my project done.

I thought maybe it was the 7018 that set outside of a sealed can for last five or six years.
 
/ inverter welders #34  
I thought maybe it was the 7018 that set outside of a sealed can for last five or six years.
That was probably it. 7018 is low hydrogen rod and water has plenty of hydrogen in it. Your rod must have absorbed a bunch of moisture. It will not run correctly when it has absorbed moisture.
Eric
 
/ inverter welders #35  
correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe the 70 series rods are intended for high carbon steel.
That's what I use them for anyway.

I find them more difficult to use than 6012.

I keep all my rods in PVC pipe sections with screw on tops (just plumbing stuff). I have separate tubes for different rods. Cheap, easy.
pvc rod boxes.jpg
 
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I’ve had some trouble with 7018 on my inverter Everlast.

Last summer it frustrated me so much that I just quit using it or trying to get my project done.

I thought maybe it was the 7018 that set outside of a sealed can for last five or six years.
if anyone knows of an inverter that will hold an arc with any of 60 series rods let me know. I may just buy another one, But I'm thinking it's all these inverters that are like this and that arc force doesn't seem to be much help
 
/ inverter welders #37  
If I remember correctly we were told in welding class that a 1/8th 7018 needed at least 40 open circuit volts to weld properly. I'm not 100% sure how to measure that but I do know that my Hobart that I can barely lift, welds 7018s a lot better that the much lighter John Deere welder that I've had for years.
 
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/ inverter welders #39  
I am currently looking at Bobcat and Rangers, but it’s really hard to do much research on the Internet because they don’t give a lot of facts.

I hope to visit some welding stores in the near future to see if they’ve got better information
 
/ inverter welders #40  
if anyone knows of an inverter that will hold an arc with any of 60 series rods let me know. I may just buy another one, But I'm thinking it's all these inverters that are like this and that arc force doesn't seem to be much help
Most ESAB inverters run 6011 well and Everlast offers them as well. Any company that sells them will definitely mention that they will. But if you look for something with a higher open circuit voltage OCV like 65 or higher it should do well with 6010..
 

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