Ford Maverick Pickup?

[WinterDeere]

Most people buy what's on the lot...

I've honestly never done this, I always order a build for exactly what I want, or have one transferred from another dealership if there happens to be one of the exact configuration somewhere else in inventory. I suspect those who take one off the lot have a lot more leverage for negotiation, but I usually try to time our purchase for a period when sales are down and manufacturer is offering employee pricing or some other incentive so overwhelming that there'd probably be little left to negotiate, anyway.

My most-hated add-on, which seems to appear in every dealer-stocked vehicle: sun roof. I will pay you an extra $3k to NOT give me a sun roof!

Given that transmissions are all electronic these days no real need for a lever...

I just heard Archimedes roll over in his grave.

 

[deserteagle71]

In the rural west, trucks are often the family vehicle.

^This.

Here in northern Nevada if you go to town on a Sunday morning you'll see multiple crew cab F350/3500 turbodiesels around town. The whole family fits, plus after church they load up on another week's supplies before heading back to the ranch. That's what the bed of the truck is for, not just groceries but gardening supplies and all the other stuff used on a ranch that you wouldn't want to be putting inside something like a Suburban or SUV.

When I was growing up in Pennsylvania, everything was closed on Sunday. So when I moved to Nevada and saw that every store was open on Sunday I soon learned why. That's the day everyone came to town to do their shopping. Unlike Pennsylvania where there is a town every few miles, here it is often 100+ miles from the ranch to the nearest town so "run in to town" for something is not feasible.

 

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A regular shifter seems to be going extinct. Dodge/Ram trucks have had a knob for quite some time now, wife's car has a joystick-like thing that takes getting used to (you push it forward to go into reverse for example). Given that transmissions are all electronic these days no real need for a lever, but I find it easier to use.

Non-lever transmission selectors typically have the same problem as modern car HVACs do - you have to look somewhere to see what you're selecting.
I'm not encouraging anyone to drive with their eyes closed but it's sure nice to be able to do things while keeping your eyes on the road or traffic.
I suppose gear selecting is 99% done from a standstill and mostly from/to parked, but whenever I use a rental car with some dial I have to look at it to select reverse to park etc. Not my favorite.

 

[dstig1]

The XLT luxury package, $1890, is mostly garbage I dont want; heated seats, soft vinyl wrapped steering wheel, heated mirrors; but it does have the remote start... probably cheaper to get aftermarket remote start?

LOL. That "useless junk" just screams that you live in Florida! That stuff is critical to me. In fact heated seats in the Ranger was the hardest thing to find in my search because it was a must have! I love the remote start too. Gets the seats going in the winter and takes the initial edge off getting into a stone cold vehicle and freezing yer nutz off.

 

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LOL. That useless junk just screams that you live in Florida! That stuff is critical to me. In fact heated seats in the Ranger was the hardest thing to find in my search because it was a must have! I love the remote start too. Gets the seats going in the winter and takes the initial edge off getting into a stone cold vehicle and freezing yer nutz off.

I find heated seats to be really important if you have leather seats.
Then, they should be cooled, too, because summer heat.

Overall I prefer fabric seats, do just fine in sub-zero winter and scorching summer.

 

[dstig1]

Oddly on this truck they are fabric and heated. I had always seen that heated seats were leather in the past, so was slightly surprised by that. At -20F even fabric is unpleasant...

 

[ruffdog]

Here is a good video about heavy towing with a hybrid Maverick.

 

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Here is a good video about heavy towing with a hybrid Maverick.

"heavy towing": a UTV on an aluminum trailer
I'm just kidding, obviously you're not going to tow a full 14k dump trailer; the optional tow kit only gives 4k max.

They're disappointed because their typical 37mpg truck only got 14, which is quite a bit below the 50% which would be 18-19.
Of course, you're probably not getting much use of the hybrid nature of the drivetrain while towing, so I can't be surprised at the 14, because a Maverick with whatever the gas engine sans hybrid would probably be getting what, about 28?

I saw a mav about two hours ago in town; I didn't recognize it at first because while the front is obviously modern Ford pickup (not a fan... tbh not a fan of most modern pickups) I didn't place the model and it's a pretty decent sized vehicle. It was a 4-door and had a decent sized couch in the back with one of those rounded bed extender things on the tailgate.

 

[ruffdog]

Of course, you're probably not getting much use of the hybrid nature of the drivetrain while towing, so I can't be surprised at the 14, because a Maverick with whatever the gas engine sans hybrid would probably be getting what, about 28?

They had it in tow/haul mode which turns off the hybrid ability.

Getting 14mpg towing that trailer and utv doesn't surprise me. That is a bunch of wind resistance to pull against for that little truck.

 

[Oaktree]

Non-lever transmission selectors typically have the same problem as modern car HVACs do - you have to look somewhere to see what you're selecting.
I'm not encouraging anyone to drive with their eyes closed but it's sure nice to be able to do things while keeping your eyes on the road or traffic.
I suppose gear selecting is 99% done from a standstill and mostly from/to parked, but whenever I use a rental car with some dial I have to look at it to select reverse to park etc. Not my favorite.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending pushbutton, rotary knob or joystick transmission controls. I don't like them either. My point was that there's no need for one from a manufacturing standpoint, there's no physical connection between the shifter and the transmission anymore.

LOL. That "useless junk" just screams that you live in Florida! That stuff is critical to me. In fact heated seats in the Ranger was the hardest thing to find in my search because it was a must have! I love the remote start too. Gets the seats going in the winter and takes the initial edge off getting into a stone cold vehicle and freezing yer nutz off.

Guess I'm the contrarian here (big surprise!), it gets plenty cold in the winter where I live, and I also have no use for heated seats, steering wheel, etc. (no real use for A/C either). My current truck is the first vehicle I've owned with remote start, I think I've used it once, mostly for the novelty of it. Then again, I'm one of those people who's almost never cold.
Wife, on the other hand won't even consider a vehicle without all that stuff (well, she doesn't much care about A/C either but the winter-related stuff is "must have").

 

[5030]

Have to say that the wife (driving her Suburban with me in the jump seat), parked at the bank next to a Maverick 4 x 4, wich is really a 2x2. Anyway, I was kind of taken back by the size of it compared to her Burb. They are tiny, Thing would fit in the Burb with the back seats folded down....lol Sitting in the Burb, I could look right over the top of it and it was badged '4x4'.

 

[5030]

Unless a 'badged 4x4' has lockers, front and rear, it's a 2x2 and a rear or front wheel drive buggy is really a 1 wheel drive unless the single differential is limited slip or a locker.

Automakers use the 4x4 badging very loosely, IMO.

 

[jyoutz]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending pushbutton, rotary knob or joystick transmission controls. I don't like them either. My point was that there's no need for one from a manufacturing standpoint, there's no physical connection between the shifter and the transmission anymore.

Guess I'm the contrarian here (big surprise!), it gets plenty cold in the winter where I live, and I also have no use for heated seats, steering wheel, etc. (no real use for A/C either). My current truck is the first vehicle I've owned with remote start, I think I've used it once, mostly for the novelty of it. Then again, I'm one of those people who's almost never cold.
Wife, on the other hand won't even consider a vehicle without all that stuff (well, she doesn't much care about A/C either but the winter-related stuff is "must have").

AC is a must for driving dusty dirt roads. The positive pressure keeps dust from entering the cab.

 

[KennyG]

I've never had a car with the dial or button gearshift, but don't they have a dash display that shows the gear, just like the conventional shifter. If you have an automatic with a console shifter, you can only tell the gear by the feel or the dash display unless you look down. Why is it different?

 

[mblair441]

But what does it have for a transmission? If it's the same as what's behind their gas engines it's only good for 130k miles of light duty work.

I have a Maverick hybrid XL that I have driven for about 35,000 miles. As is the case with all Maverick hybrids, it is front wheel drive only and has a constantly variable transmission. It has four doors, but the backseat is not very big. It has good room for two adults and a large dog, or two children, in the backseat. It would be difficult to squeeze four adults into the vehicle for anything other than a very short trip. That having been said, I find it very useful as a utility pick up. I can carry 1000 pounds of feed, or a full drum of diesel fuel in the back with no problem. I do not use it for towing, because a trailer hitch was an $800 ad and the towing capacity of the hybrid is only 2500 pounds. I have other trucks to do the towing. It gets between 30 and 31 miles to the gallon overall. I do a lot of highway driving. I am 6‘3“ and I am very comfortable driving it. it has plenty of zip for passing other vehicles. It is inexpensive, to buy, operate, and maintain.

 

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wich is really a 2x2

meanwhile, actual 2x2's look like this

Have you ever noticed how except in really low traction situations, a 2wd without a locker is.... driven by two wheels? the back wheels? yes thank you everyone knows that you stick one on ice and it'll spin, reducing it to 1wd. we know. we knew before you drew a breath to mention it the first time. it's still a 2wd. if it was 1wd, they wouldn't bother with a differential at all, they'd just pick one and attach the transmission straight to it. I mean, why bother with another thing that might break and requires maintenance and is heavy and reduces efficiency? Just trash it right now!

Right, because it actually serves a purpose, and via the differential both wheels are driven. Otherwise an AWD car would effectively be 1wd in your story, right? Luckily, the majority of us live in reality, and in this reality, the overwhelming majority of driving is not done on 5% traction surfaces.

 

[DarkBlack]

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meanwhile, actual 2x2's look like this
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Have you ever noticed how except in really low traction situations, a 2wd without a locker is.... driven by two wheels? the back wheels? yes thank you everyone knows that you stick one on ice and it'll spin, reducing it to 1wd. we know. we knew before you drew a breath to mention it the first time. it's still a 2wd. if it was 1wd, they wouldn't bother with a differential at all, they'd just pick one and attach the transmission straight to it. I mean, why bother with another thing that might break and requires maintenance and is heavy and reduces efficiency? Just trash it right now!

Right, because it actually serves a purpose, and via the differential both wheels are driven. Otherwise an AWD car would effectively be 1wd in your story, right? Luckily, the majority of us live in reality, and in this reality, the overwhelming majority of driving is not done on 5% traction surfaces.

5030 hasn’t convinced you yet that 2 wheel drive is one wheel drive, and standard 4 wheel drive is 2 wheel drive? That’s why we have to rotate tires. Otherwise the one tire on the drive wheel would wear out before all the others.

 

[5030]

Gee, I thought that rotating tires was to promote even wear...

 

[paulsharvey]

So, honestly, the Maverick isn't that small. It's roughly the size of a Ford Explorer, although it is maybe 3-4" shorter vertical. I view the Explorer as a mid sized SUV, but its maybe medium-large.

On towing, your typical, TSC/Lowes landscape trailer, 5x10; 5x12, single axle; is rated for 3500#; and that's the most the vast majority of people use.

Even on the construction side; very few people are hauling their materials. No, I'm not suggesting a 1 man operation, skid steer guy wants/needs a Maverick; But, it isn't as bad option, if you drop off the equipment Monday, and it's onsite for a couple weeks. Plenty of room/payload for some fuel cans, saws, shovels, rakes, ect. No need to take your F450 utility bed to walk/bid a job. You can take the Maverick, with a wheel, some marking paint, a shovel and your laptop.

 

[Jstpssng]

So, honestly, the Maverick isn't that small. It's roughly the size of a Ford Explorer, although it is maybe 3-4" shorter vertical. I view the Explorer as a mid sized SUV, but its maybe medium-large.

On towing, your typical, TSC/Lowes landscape trailer, 5x10; 5x12, single axle; is rated for 3500#; and that's the most the vast majority of people use.

Even on the construction side; very few people are hauling their materials. No, I'm not suggesting a 1 man operation, skid steer guy wants/needs a Maverick; But, it isn't as bad option, if you drop off the equipment Monday, and it's onsite for a couple weeks. Plenty of room/payload for some fuel cans, saws, shovels, rakes, ect. No need to take your F450 utility bed to walk/bid a job. You can take the Maverick, with a wheel, some marking paint, a shovel and your laptop.

Which is why I am considering one.
I am not a contractor by any means, but if I have something like a Maverick I likely would upgrade my Colorado for something like a Ram 2500 with a flatbed dump body.