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   / Foreign Travel? #241  
I think we had a flight over 16 hours about 10 years ago. The longest flight according to Google is over 18 hours.

The world's longest commercial flight is Singapore Airlines flight SQ23 from New York (JFK) to Singapore (SIN). This flight covers a distance of 9,534 miles (15,344 kilometers) and has a scheduled flight time of approximately 18 hours and 40 minutes, according to Flightradar24. It is operated by an Airbus A350-900ULR, designed for ultra-long-range travel.
The flight from JFK to Hong Kong became the longest because the Ukraine war rerouted it to avoid Russian air space. I believe Flightradar is wrong.

 
   / Foreign Travel? #242  
Regarding credit cards, I got a good tip from serious travelers. The Schwab debit card doesn't charge special fees abroad. I keep a special Schwab account for travel. It's also nice because I can limit the money in the account, so if something fishy happens, nobody can get access to bigger accounts.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #243  
Done the NY to Singapore a number of times, makes the trip to California or England seem short.
Singapore air is a great airline.

The trip to South Africa is long too, on the way back you stop for fuel so it's 16 hours.

We were in Switzerland a few years back and I remember even in the 80's it was not cheap.
Going off the beaten path to local restaurants and groceries you save a lot of money. We usually avoid tourist food places if we can, sometimes it's just not possible.

We stay in business rental flats or business hotels as they are cheaper that the big hotels. Usually clean nice and professional staff. Great concierges too. Just not a lot of amenities.

Nothing like sitting in the bar on the roof of a business hotel and looking over the city enters.
One of our kids just returned from 3 weeks in South Africa. 8 hour flight Chicago to Frankfurt. 12 hour layover. 10 hour flight Frankfurt to Johannesburg. 2 hour flight to middle of nowhere. ;)
 
   / Foreign Travel? #244  
Regarding credit cards, I got a good tip from serious travelers. The Schwab debit card doesn't charge special fees abroad. I keep a special Schwab account for travel. It's also nice because I can limit the money in the account, so if something fishy happens, nobody can get access to bigger accounts.
My son-in law got that for my daughter when she went to SA for that reason.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #245  
When traveling between the US and South Africa I always got a two or three day layover in Europe to break it up. The flight the entire length of Africa from Europe is still brutal but it's better than direct from the US.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #246  
When traveling between the US and South Africa I always got a two or three day layover in Europe to break it up. The flight the entire length of Africa from Europe is still brutal but it's better than direct from the US.
That flight from Frankfurt to Johannesburg is still shorter than driving from South Bend, IN to Stillwater, OK. :ROFLMAO: Did that multiple times a year for 4 years. Glad the kids are back in Indiana now.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #248  
Yeah, we put Apple Air Tags in the kid's bags to keep track of them. About 8500 miles away. Kinda funny that there's internet out there.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #249  
When traveling between the US and South Africa I always got a two or three day layover in Europe to break it up. The flight the entire length of Africa from Europe is still brutal but it's better than direct from the US.
It gets complicated doing that, if you're bringing a firearm to Africa for safari. My last couple of hunting trips, I used a travel agent that specializes in traveling with firearms and knows how to work out the details.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #250  
When traveling between the US and South Africa I always got a two or three day layover in Europe to break it up. The flight the entire length of Africa from Europe is still br
I still prefer direct flights. Not every place moves at the pace you’re used to, and that’s part of the charm. I’ve found that learning a few basic phrases in the local language always earns goodwill. At some point during planning I browse travmodo.com just to catch up on current travel conditions and make sure I’m not walking into avoidable surprises. Transportation systems vary wildly between countries, so research pays off. Keeping an open mind helps you enjoy differences instead of resisting them. The more flexible you are, the richer your experience becomes.
 
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   / Foreign Travel? #251  
I still prefer direct flights
I've done both. If you can work a day or two in on a stop, then it's not a bad way to go. We worked out an evening and dinner in Dublin Ireland on our way home from continental Europe last summer, which was fun. There's nothing like actually stopping in on Ireland for your Guiness and Shepherd's Pie, or flying to Italy for your gnocchi.

But stops for the sake of stops, just sitting in some foreign airport, is a pointless waste of time and frustration. And that's why the whole "jumbo jet" model has mostly died over the last 30 years. No one wants to take a regional jet to a hub, just to hop on a 747 for a long-haul flight, to another regional hub. Much nicer to just go direct on a 737 or 757... assuming they don't fall apart in the sky.

I did have the pleasure of a few transatlantic flights on the 787 Dreamliner this past summer... nice!
 
   / Foreign Travel? #252  
Going to Japan and doing a stopover in Singapore for a few days is fun.
Going to South Africa I always flew direct, though on the way back there is a refueling stop on some tiny island off the west coast of Africa.
If I am going to someplace specific, sometimes I will fly into a different country to tour around a bit and then do a car or train to get to my real destination.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #253  
I used travelbusinessclass.com a few times now and found deals on international business class way cheaper than what I saw elsewhere. They helped me book a trip to Europe last year, and it made the long flight way more bearable. Worth checking if you're looking to avoid coach without draining the bank account.
 
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   / Foreign Travel? #254  
I just carry copies of my passport and important documents and leave the originals locked in the hotel safe. Makes it easier if something gets lost or stolen.
Where are you going that a copy of a passport is accepted??? I've never personally run into that scenario.

I like the passport cards, as you can leave the passport in the hotel safe, and carry the card in daily travels. Especially with kids, I can hang onto the passports, but have each kid carry their own passport card.

If you haven't seen these, they look like a driver's license, usual laminated plastic thing with all the fancy holograms and RFID. They've been offered alongside the standard passport for an extra dollar or three at time of application, the last 15 or 20 years.

I have Global Pass, which if I recall correctly, precluded me from keeping a passport card, as if the former supercedes the latter. Whatever, I carry the Global Pass card and leave the passport in the hotel safe, as that card has my passport number, photo, RFID, etc. The damn thing looks so austentatiously official, I suspect foreigners must assume I work for the CIA, or some other secret 3-letter organization. :ROFLMAO:
 
   / Foreign Travel? #255  
When I traveled for government contracts I got pulled out of line here and there, having military orders helped get through this a few times.
Miss having those papers.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #256  
Going to Japan and doing a stopover in Singapore for a few days is fun.
Going to South Africa I always flew direct, though on the way back there is a refueling stop on some tiny island off the west coast of Africa.
If I am going to someplace specific, sometimes I will fly into a different country to tour around a bit and then do a car or train to get to my real destination.
AIrport in Singapore is just unreal. Can't wait to go back there. Traveling abroad always comes with unexpected lessons, good and bad. Planning ahead helps, but things still happen. I’ve learned a lot from reading other people’s travel experiences here. Knowing How to get an airline refund can save a lot of stress when plans go sideways. Forums like this are often more helpful than official airline pages. Real stories make a difference.
 
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   / Foreign Travel? #257  
Just do it. The tourists who get in trouble are those with no 'street sense'. Your hosts are locals, they will know where not to go, and will instinctively sense and get away from trouble. I'm sure you have similar instincts for Oakland. Same thing.

Enjoy your trip!
I do have street sense. But felt perfectly fine in Naples Italy, which people fear. No biggy. People were great and helpful. Said, where not to go. Cause they know. And they don't go there. So we didn't. If you are not a player, you are not a player. You are a tourist. An this is somewhat respected. I know this is counterintuitive, but the stealing is within the common folks. Stealing from a tourist pulls their entire police force to bear. They get on it. Cause they live off this tourism. And they know that.
 
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   / Foreign Travel? #258  
I do have street sense. But felt perfectly fine in Naples Italy, which people fear. No biggy. People were great and helpful. Said, where not to go. Cause they know. And they don't go there. So we didn't.
I've walked all over Italy, mostly alone, and never had even a hint of worry about my personal safety. Petty crime like pick-pockets and credit card theft are rampant there, but their violent crime numbers must be many times lower than any American city.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #259  
I've walked all over Italy, mostly alone, and never had even a hint of worry about my personal safety. Petty crime like pick-pockets and credit card theft are rampant there, but their violent crime numbers must be many times lower than any American city.
It is the little things like that. And if you see the scam, sight the pickpocket, you are okay.
 
   / Foreign Travel? #260  
Naples was not too bad, just like anywhere, know where not to be at night.
Train station is not marked well, ask for some help and you become very welcome and people will walk you over and make sure you get on the right train.

Paris used to be bad for "welcoming" but not so bad last time we were there.
Pickpockets and people watching our luggage was pretty funny, when we start to stare back.

No pocketbooks for the ladies and no fanny packs and all is well in most places.
 

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