Trickle battery charger

[Duds13]

that's even more then a NOCO its only a 5a vs to 10a on the noco. And i Thought the noco was a touch pricey.

Amazon.com

You can get them much cheaper than that price on the Hulkman page. There is a bundle package on Amazon for $70 now

 

[Too many Kubotas]

well according to this guy, it doesn't work period, even on the noco. which I can kind of relate to.

Not into watching You Tube, and I don't have a NOCO maintainer so I can't comment on how those work.

They might be similar to the CTEK I have. According to the specs it does have a desulfation function, but I have yet to see any evidence of that. Although, in all fairness, that one has never been used for weeks on end and maybe hasn't had a chance to prove itself.

Anyway, I don't think there should be any doubt the desulfation works. But much like sufation doesn't happen quickly, getting rid of it also takes time. Could be months, could be a year or more, depending on the "aggressiveness" of the desulfator.

 

[5030]

I keep my 1997 Ford 7.3 diesel in the garage all winter, it's never seen snow actually and it runs a pair of Interstate Group 31 flooded cell starting batteries and it stays on a Battery Minder maintainer, all winter and has for the last 4 years now. No issues what so ever but and I say but, I make sure the batteries are 'fully charged' before it gets laid up for the winter. Do the same with the side by side. never have had any battery maintainer 'boil' out a battery, ever. Cooking any flooded cell battery tells me the maintainer's current is way to high. You always want an amp or less of maintainer current. Yuhasa also produces an excellent maintainer.

 

[LittleBill21]

Cooking any flooded cell battery tells me the maintainer's current is way to high. You always want an amp or less of maintainer current. Yuhasa also produces an excellent maintainer.

Yea... its the voltage being too high, not amperage. you can put a 500 amp charger behind a battery once it levels out the voltage, it won't take 1 amp of current.

 

[LittleBill21]

Not into watching You Tube, and I don't have a NOCO maintainer so I can't comment on how those work.

They might be similar to the CTEK I have. According to the specs it does have a desulfation function, but I have yet to see any evidence of that. Although, in all fairness, that one has never been used for weeks on end and maybe hasn't had a chance to prove itself.

Anyway, I don't think there should be any doubt the desulfation works. But much like sufation doesn't happen quickly, getting rid of it also takes time. Could be months, could be a year or more, depending on the "aggressiveness" of the desulfator.

IDK I have never seen it recover a battery for me. I don't know why you don't watch utube but the same guy says the ctek only does the deslulf mode on battery's at 2v, I'm not sure it does it every cycle.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

IDK I have never seen it recover a battery for me. I don't know why you don't watch utube...

To me, desulfation is more about keeping a battery in good shape than to revive a bad one. I've successfully brought several back to life, but can't say if it was the carefully applied forms of charging, the desulfation that followed, or a combination of both.

Why don't I watch You Tube? Primarily because of all the misinformation found there, and also because it's time consuming. There are quicker ways to find facts.

One exception I must admit to is that since finding out about The Motor Oil Geek I have watched several of his videos. That guy has a ton of great and factual information, more than a can generally absorb.

 

[DarkBlack]

You don’t watch you-tube, but you watch motor oil geek? On what website?

 

[Too many Kubotas]

You don’t watch you-tube, but you watch motor oil geek? On what website?

One exception I must admit to is that since finding out about The Motor Oil Geek I have watched several of his videos.

The answer was right there out in the open for you to see.

 

[DarkBlack]

The answer was right there out in the open for you to see.

Ahh .. see it now. You-Tube is mostly misinformation, except, “the motor oil geek “ .

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Ahh .. see it now. You-Tube is mostly misinformation, except, “the motor oil geek “ .

Why don't I watch You Tube? Primarily because of all the misinformation found there, and also because it's time consuming. There are quicker ways to find facts.

And once again, the answer was already posted.

Not my fault that you interpret my wording as meaning "mostly". There's a lot of misinformation on You Tube, which is fine - people have the right to express their opinion and make money doing it.

What I don't care for is that many viewers take questionable videos as gospel.

 

[5030]

I watch YT myself but not for misinformation. I watch video's to see what the creator don't realize his camera is seeing.

 

[5030]

All flooded cell batteries produce lead sulfate without exception and that is why a quality battery has it's plates spaced off the bottom of the case because the flaked off lead sulfate will drop to the bottom of the battery case and over time, will contact the bottom of the plates and short them out (lead sulfate conducts electricity). I don't get the 'desulfation' deal at all. All flooded cell batteries will eventually expire from it (lead sulfate shorting). What determines that is only the spacing of the plates from the floor of the case. The best way to avoid it is, replace the battery in a timely manner which is something most people don't do until they fail. Myself, I 'rotate' my starting batteries every 4-5 years maximum. Don't matter if they load test good or not because the 'end of life' can come at a bad time. It's also a falsehood the flooded cell batteries fail more in cold weather more than hot weather. The only reason why they fail in cold weather is the cranking amps demanded by a cold engine is much greater than during warm weather and a battery on it's last legs in cold weather will fail. They fail in warm weather as well.

Batteries have to be the most neglected part of any engine driven equipment.

 

[DarkBlack]

Why don't I watch You Tube? Primarily because of all the misinformation found there, and also because it's time consuming.

This is what stuck out to me. Sorry you’re feeling all defensive.
I use You-Tube all the time. It’s a great source of free music, and videos. Millions and millions of videos that are helpful and/or just plain entertaining.
If you feel “the motor oil geek ” is the only thing on there worth watching, that’s your choice. I’m not here to criticize it.
Your wording though, certainly suggests it’s mostly “all the” misinformation..as I questioned…

So what’s your helpful video website, if it’s not You-Tube?

 

[Racer4]

I plugged one of my battery tenders up to my dad’s x380. I’ve been starting it every so often this past year. Last time I was there, the battery was dead. So I charged it with my regular charger, then put the tender on. It started right up today.

 

[cannuck]

I have some incredibly cheap half amp maintainers that I keep on batteries for overhead crane, quad and door opener in unheated storage shelter on farm. 5 years running 24 x 7 and no problems. I keep the 24V batteries in my D5H plugged into a NOCO smart charger all winter and much of summer and works like a damn. Evern bought a 48 volt forklift last year and opened center tie and another 24V NOCO have at it and found I had a perfectly good battery in the thing! (so charger so good I will not scrap it for parts).

IMHO just about any smart charger SHOULD do a good job when constantly on line. If you are worried about it run volts and amps on a decent meter to see what it is doing. The genuinely good ones use a pulsed signal to avoid or even reverse sulfation.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

This is what stuck out to me. Sorry you’re feeling all defensive.
I use You-Tube all the time. It’s a great source of free music, and videos. Millions and millions of videos that are helpful and/or just plain entertaining.
If you feel “the motor oil geek ” is the only thing on there worth watching, that’s your choice. I’m not here to criticize it.
Your wording though, certainly suggests it’s mostly “all the” misinformation..as I questioned…

So what’s your helpful video website, if it’s not You-Tube?

I have not been on any video web site other than You Tube that I know of, and have no doubt that there's entertaining and helpful videos on You Tube, but it's just not for me. And there's been countless times when somebody says "but this guy on You Tube says..." and it's complete nonsense. Guess I have become allergic to the You Tube phenomena.

I get to listen to music when driving or in the M6040 and have often wondered how people find time to make all the videos out there (know about those through my girlfriend) and really question how so many have time to watch them.

In my case, I'm lucky if I get three of the most important 10 things on the list done in a day. If I need to find out about some subject I generally use Google and read what seems relevant, ideally from reliable sources, or call somebody that knows the subject.

That could change if I become bedridden, but first I'd go through the overflowing DVR and watch things I recorded for a reason.

 

[j13smiley]

So the internet (what you are calling Google) is larger than just YouTube... yet you are able to sort between all the good and bad information there??? Yet you ignore the smaller subset of YouTube? Pretty sure I've seen you post your opinion on this before.

Like everything, there is good/bad/entertainment/etc to be found in every medium available (not just internet sources).

 

[LittleBill21]

So the internet (what you are calling Google) is larger than just YouTube... yet you are able to sort between all the good and bad information there??? Yet you ignore the smaller subset of YouTube? Pretty sure I've seen you post your opinion on this before.

Like everything, there is good/bad/entertainment/etc to be found in every medium available (not just internet sources).

this is like the guy about reddit being a cesspool. Anything can be a cesspool. You decide if your going to wade into that particular water.

what's even funnier, is he's on this forum, where there is a current active thread about whether the earth is flat....

I find both youtube and reddit to be incredibly helpful. Like with everything including chatgpt, trust but verify is common sense.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

So the internet (what you are calling Google) is larger than just YouTube... yet you are able to sort between all the good and bad information there??? Yet you ignore the smaller subset of YouTube? Pretty sure I've seen you post your opinion on this before.

Like everything, there is good/bad/entertainment/etc to be found in every medium available (not just internet sources).

Well, Google is a small part of the internet and I don't consider the two interchangeable. There are other ways to find information, including on the internet, but I happened to mention the well known Google.

As mentioned earlier, to me You Tube is a time consuming way to get information, preferring instead written text and numbers, with diagrams or schematics if needed. Or, in cases where I have good industry contacts, a phone call works great.

Regardless of how the information is found and presented, it should obviously still not be taken as gospel. That's where prior knowledge, common sense, etc. comes in.

Yes, lots of people like and use You Tube, but I don't. Much like that a certain artist can be extremely popular doesn't mean that I like what they produce. Thankfully, this is America and I don't have to like You Tube, no matter how many think that I should.

 

[rScotty]

SNIP

Also, straight desulfation units such as Canadus and PulseTech can't possibly raise the voltage in a battery since they are powered by it.

Raising the voltages in the circuits in a battery powered device is easy electrically. Some processes just work better at higher voltages. So the input voltage is not the limit.