Are work lights "customization"?

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CalG

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I fitted a 40 amp alternator to replace the 14 amp dynamo on the B2601 today. (About a two hour job)
I did this in preparation to fit a 72 watt LED light bar that I picked up years ago.
Now I need a suggestion as to where to tap power. The tractor has a 10 amp circuit to a "cig lighter" style socket between the roll over bar and the seat. I could just get the male plug and go "fully manual. I can't imagine using it for anything other than my heated vest ;-)
There are a pair of wires on a separate 5 amp fused circuit (rated 35 watts) that ends under the fender at the same location as the cig socket. (is there another name for that?)
35 watts are not enough for hardy anything.

All the above is just talk about looking for good ideas to add electrical service to a tractor that is rather sparse on that account (The Hurlimann is VERY full featured on the other hand.)

I would like to replace the 1156LL head lamps with "brighter" LED units.
I tried doing this to the B7200 but am VERY DISAPPOINTED with the actual light output of the LED lamps bought at the FLAPS. I realize these 1156 bulbs are intended for tail lights etc. Perhaps I expect too much. I did read a couple of reviews on lamps offered on the net. some folks shared my feelings, and blamed the poor output on the "reflector" configuration. Hmmmm....

Can anyone suggest a good choice of replacement bulbs for forward shining work lights in a Kubota head lamp shell?

TIA
 
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I fitted a 40 amp alternator to replace the 14 amp dynamo on the B2601 today. (About a two hour job)
I did this in preparation to fit a 72 watt LED light bar that I picked up years ago.
Now I need a suggestion as to where to tap power. The tractor has a 10 amp circuit to a "cig lighter" style socket between the roll over bar and the seat. I could just get the male plug and go "fully manual. I can't imagine using it for anything other than my heated vest ;-)
There are a pair of wires on a separate 5 amp fused circuit (rated 35 watts) that ends under the fender at the same location as the cig socket. (is there another name for that?)
35 watts are not enough for hardy anything.

All the above is just talk about looking for good ideas to add electrical service to a tractor that is rather sparse on that account (The Hurlimann is VERY full featured on the other hand.)

I would like to replace the 1156LL head lamps with "brighter" LED units.
I tried doing this to the B7200 but am VERY DISAPPOINTED with the actual light output of the LED lamps bought at the FLAPS. I realize these 1156 bulbs are intended for tail lights etc. Perhaps I expect too much. I did read a couple of reviews on lamps offered on the net. some folks shared my feelings, and blamed the poor output on the "reflector" configuration. Hmmmm....

Can anyone suggest a good choice of replacement bulbs for forward shining work lights in a Kubota head lamp shell?

TIA
Can’t help with the replacement bulbs.

You could power your led bar directly from the battery including an inline fuse and a switch to be mounted somewhere convenient.
 
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Or add a fuse block and ground bus for custom accessories. That way, you control the wire sizes, fuse sizes, switch ratings, etc. Once you figure your max sustained load from all that you want to add, you can size a feed wire and "main fuse" for the new panel.

Inlines work, but I've never liked them. Too easy to do a crappy job where you throw it in in the heat of the moment while installing the modification, then not labeling. Winds up wasting a lot of repair time tracing wires if everything is red or black and not labeled. With a fuse block, you spend more time thinking out the circuit design, but less time tracking down where you installed the inline, which wire goes where, etc. IMO
 
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Perhaps a male socket with a built in switch? I have a cigarette lighter splitter / volt meter that has a switch for each outlet. Very convenient, and lighted as well.
I have tried several led headlight replacement bulbs, but have never been satisfied with any of them. I keep the led bulbs in the headlamps for the reduced watts and rely on (4) 55w led on the cab corners.
 
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Can’t help with the replacement bulbs.

You could power your led bar directly from the battery including an inline fuse and a switch to be mounted somewhere convenient.
Yes, there is always the "Direct" option.

BFI!

"Brute force and ignorance"

Get 'er done!

One aspect, the 40 amp alternator is supplied with a 50 amp fuse "in Line", in it's own holder. Any snagging of additional circuits just got easy!
 
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Just another blessing of being retired. 42+ years out here and I've never had anything so urgent that I had to use the tractor at night. It can always wait for tomorrow and day light.

I do have one small work light - mounted on the cage that protects the emergency blinkers. Points out back so I could see the rear blade at night.
 
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I also think the easiest is just to jam a wire in the positive terminal of the battery with a fuse near that connection. After that just wire it and put a switch where ever it fits for you.
 
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How much does the lightbar pull? Most I have seen/used use small gauge wires. What is stock alternator output?
 
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I added an accessory block bus bar for my front and rear lights. It allows me to expand for a few other accessories pretty easily as needed. I run inline fuses, and I put a fuse between the block and the battery as well 30 amp to start with but it will go up to 60 (I added this after the photos were taken so not visible). Only 25 bucks on amazon.


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How much does the lightbar pull? Most I have seen/used use small gauge wires. What is stock alternator output?
The OP provided the Wattage for his light bar. Apply Ohms law from there.

The OP also provided his original and replacement alternator output ratings.
 
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I didn't see the 72 watts, I read it as 72 in led light bar...big difference in watts.
 
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Are lights customization? Well of course!
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I added an accessory block bus bar for my front and rear lights. It allows me to expand for a few other accessories pretty easily as needed. I run inline fuses, and I put a fuse between the block and the battery as well 30 amp to start with but it will go up to 60 (I added this after the photos were taken so not visible). Only 25 bucks on amazon.


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Those look handy!
I usually trust a good chassis ground for getting juice back to the battery.
 
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The OP provided the Wattage for his light bar. Apply Ohms law from there.

The OP also provided his original and replacement alternator output ratings.
It would be interesting to check the amperage and see if the bar is really 72W. The watts and lumens advertised by some sellers are questionable.
 
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It would be interesting to check the amperage and see if the bar is really 72W. The watts and lumens advertised by some sellers are questionable.

I put the LED light bar on one of my variable voltage power supplies (Soronsen)
Set the voltage at about 13V.

This unit only displays up to 5 amps. The needle pegged, but the PS didn't trip out.

seems like 6 amps or so to me.

If I get issues, I'll put the amp clamp on it.
 
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Is "Fu**'in bright a proper metric?
It may be as meaningful as some of the sellers' claims:)

The light cast by LED's is interesting. Been using them for several years and they appear different when viewed from inside the cab vs. from outside the cab.

When inside looking out of the cab, they cast a nice bright light that doesn't seem like it would be very objectionable for someone observing them from a place that appears to be out of the illuminated area.

I've observed LED's while standing way beyond the illuminated area and the light was quite irritating to look towards. The distance from the lights and the angle they're viewed from don't do much to tame them.
 
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