Real estate General topic

[LouNY]

How many times have you read about issues with easements on properties on this forum?

A stupid guy like me even knows not to touch a property with an easement with a 10 pole before I even came to this forum.
An easement right down the center of your property?

Don't get me wrong, I get the fact that we all have the power companies to deal with with cutting, but NEVER with someone who uses that easement to access their own property.

It all depends on what the easement is for and how it was written up.

 

[Jstpssng]

An acre and a half of land is nowhere near big enough for a shooting range, unless you have decent backstop. It's 400 feet to my back line, and even though I do have a backstop I stopped shooting when my neighbor built a road next to my back corner.

 

[Jstpssng]

It all depends on what the easement is for and how it was written up.

I agree with you. A lot of back land would be inaccessible without an easement or R/W. It's people who are the problem.

 

[ultrarunner]

My entire neighborhood is easements…

A network of riding trails connecting to parkland plus all the paved roads are on easements with frontage lots owning to the middle.

Sewer easements are very common here and came about following gravity…. fortunately, all have recently been slipped lined and good for my lifetime.

 

[WinterDeere]

How many times have you read about issues with easements on properties on this forum?

A stupid guy like me even knows not to touch a property with an easement with a 10 pole before I even came to this forum.
An easement right down the center of your property?

Don't get me wrong, I get the fact that we all have the power companies to deal with with cutting, but NEVER with someone who uses that easement to access their own property.

Not all easements are created equal. I both gave and accepted easements between mine and an adjacent property, for the sake of drainage. I allowed them to place their storm basin on the corner of my property (30 ft. triangle), if they'd allow me to drain my downspouts, basement, patio, and parts of my yard into the wetlands and creek on their property.

A huge help to both parties, as it allowed them to sneak a driveway across a narrow strip of high ground into the lot behind me, without having to get a variance to cross wetlands. It allowed me to continue draining my property onto theirs, the way a prior owner had illegally set it up, with no concern a new owner might cut me off in the future.

 

[Sigarms]

Not all easements are created equal.

There are no absolutes in life, and I do agree with you and others who pointed out how the easement is written where it may be acceptable to some.

That said, as someone else point out, it's not the easement that is the issue, but how people use that easement.

End of the day, it's just a can of worms I would prefer not to deal with because you have to deal with a bunch of yahoo's you may or may not know.

Heck, EVERY TIME the power company comes over every 7 years or so for brush clearing of power lines on the property, I generally get new crews who do things differently and I generally have to tell them what I what cleaned up after the leave.

 

[paulsharvey]

An acre and a half of land is nowhere near big enough for a shooting range, unless you have decent backstop. It's 400 feet to my back line, and even though I do have a backstop I stopped shooting when my neighbor built a road next to my back corner.

A 1.5 acre property could easily/commonly be 400lf long. No reason you can have a 25 yard pistol/rimfire/airgun range; with a back stop of coarse. No matter the ammount of property, it is the shooters responsibility to keep the projectile from 'trespassing'.

Edit: I guess part of the difference of opinion is the 'shooting range' definition. If we are talking 3 gun style stuff, rapid fire, centerfire, while moving, hell; even with a 15 ft tall berm on 3 sides; you can have rounds leave;

 

[Jstpssng]

A 1.5 acre property could easily/commonly be 400lf long. No reason you can have a 25 yard pistol/rimfire/airgun range; with a back stop of coarse. No matter the ammount of property, it is the shooters responsibility to keep the projectile from 'trespassing'.

Edit: I guess part of the difference of opinion is the 'shooting range' definition. If we are talking 3 gun style stuff, rapid fire, centerfire, while moving, hell; even with a 15 ft tall berm on 3 sides; you can have rounds leave;

I agree 100%. Yet very rarely do I see anything like that mentioned. I've had bullets fly over or past me on more than one occasion because someone didn't feel they needed a backstop. OK, once was intentional because the guy apparently didn't feel that I should be walking down the power line R/W on Sunday, even though I was doing job.

 

[Sigarms]

A 1.5 acre property could easily/commonly be 400lf long.

The question becomes with 1.5 acres is exactly how close are you to your neighbors?

There is being within your rights and being an ignaramous with no common courtesy.

I can't help but think that there aren't that many 1.5 acre properties with a house that is in the middle of nowhere without a close nearby neighbor.

 

[RjCorazza]

This thread had me checking my local and state laws regarding target shooting. The hunting distances are pretty clear, and generous to the shooter. Other discharges are as clear as mud, or not existent in my jurisdiction.
Best I can guess, target shooting with non center-fire rifle is ok 300' from any road or occupied dwelling. The occupied dwelling MAY be closer than 300' with written permission, so it would appear that my residence would not really count.
My gun range committee Father always said that whatever the distance is, it's from the point of discharge. I have shot on my property in the past, but would want the entire trajectory path (intended) to be included in that 300', which is doable on my 6 acre property. I mostly shoot subsonic 22 or pellets, so I doubt my neighbors even hear it.

 

[paulsharvey]

@RjCorazza I believe this is all about noise, really, and from point of discharge, 300 ft away is not that bad, even for magnum type rounds. Rimfire, frankly, at 50 ft it should be fine, noise alone.

 

[Sigarms]

My gun range committee Father always said that whatever the distance is, it's from the point of discharge. I have shot on my property in the past, but would want the entire trajectory path (intended) to be included in that 300', which is doable on my 6 acre property. I mostly shoot subsonic 22 or pellets, so I doubt my neighbors even hear it.

IMO there is a huge difference in sound even at 100' with a centerfire cartridge going supersonic with a can vs no can to the listeners ears.

Shooting subsonic 22LR suppressed, I think you'd find it hard pressed to find people who could hear you shooting 10' if they're inside the house.

I've asked a couple of neighbors if they've ever heard me shooting at night, answer is always no when shooting centerfire supersonic rounds suppressed (one home about 600' away I'd guess).

One of many reasons why I gave up on the subsonic 300 blackout

At 300', you'd definitely hear someone shooting a supersonic centerfire rifle unsuppressed with the shooter outside the home and you inside the home.

I really wish the US would take a stance on cans, mufflers, silencers or whatever you want to call them like a lot of European countries where you eliminate a huge amount of noise when shooting, being they're cheap and no special licensing required to own them and it's considered rude to shoot without one

But everyone knows that suppressors/cans/mufflers/silencers are evil and contribute to mass gun shootings...

 

[Jstpssng]

But everyone knows that suppressors/cans/mufflers/silencers are evil and contribute to mass gun shootings

Most definitely. One minute you're an innocent homeowner out target shooting: then you screw on a silencer (finger tight) which turns you into an assassin.
Or you can just use a soda bottle.
I saw both on TV so they must be true!

 

[paulsharvey]

If I have the suppressor one, you can hear it in the house about 80 ft from bench, If you are listening for it. If you don't have the suppressor on, it annoys the wife trying to watch TV, but unless it's the 50 cal Muzzleloader, or the 270 Win, it's just not that bad inside at 80 ft. 22LR or anything with suppressor, all good. The 50 cal and 270 both are loud inside at 80 ft; as would be the 308 18" If it wasn't threaded.

Edit; in all honesty, I got the suppressor to be able to shoot in backyard without annoying everyone; and it does that job good enough.

 

[WinterDeere]

...I got the suppressor to be able to shoot in backyard without annoying everyone; and it does that job good enough.

I spent 40 years playing the drums, then switched to bagpipes in 2020. According to my family, the switch was "because drums aren't loud enough". My neighbors would probably wish I'd just take up shooting in my own yard.

 

[Jstpssng]

, I got the suppressor to be able to shoot in backyard without annoying everyone; and it does that job good enough

That's the only reason I would want one. It's rather stupid that we can't have them without jumping through hoops.

 

[Sigarms]

Or you can just use a soda bottle.

I've always wanted to try a pillow, but for some reason it seems like a bad idea, and too many things could go wrong...

Always someone willing to put something on youtube

Kind of like filming things that go boom or pressurized tanks. To many things that could go wrong and you're forever remembered for being an idiot (AKA guy who lost his leg shooting tannerite on a mower while moving TOWARDS his target because he wasn't hitting it).

Apologies for totally derailing this thread, but in my defense, don't think I started the downward spiral

 

[paulsharvey]

We are scheduled to formally tour that 12ish acres on the peanut shaped pond this Friday. I'm not sure I like how excited my wife is about this one; you don't make logical decisions when you're emotionally invested.

 

[Sigarms]

Just sold my home of 16 years on June 15th.
I am now comfortably ensconced in a very comfy rental home until we find our next home.
The moving process was awful, but we got great $ for our home. Now we wait until the market tanks and interest rates once again begin to fall.
For everyone’s sake, I hope that happens so we all have a chance to relocate.

Hope we're in the same position when we sell our home of 20 years.

To large for just my wife and I.

When we move, the large gun safe will stay in the basement (hopefully possible new owner will appreciate it).

Reality is we don't want to move twice after we sell our current home and move into the home we die in.

From what we have saved, hoping we can find something and move only once to a single story home with less than 5 acres.

If the market tanks, I have little doubt that we should get back what we paid on the house and land along with the rate of inflation.

Just came across a place in western NC that the asking price is 725K. House and 1/4 acre bought in 2018 for 350k. We bought our place in 2005 and has 38 acres and much larger nicer house (IMO) than the one I looked at for 725K (which I wouldn't touch with a 10' pole).

 

[Sigarms]

We are scheduled to formally tour that 12ish acres on the peanut shaped pond this Friday. I'm not sure I like how excited my wife is about this one; you don't make logical decisions when you're emotionally invested.

I might of missed it, but what is the asking price on that 12ish acres?

Check tax value and last sold with sold date on the property?

I generally look at the tax value and last sold price vs time since sold to determine if it's worth the money on my end.

I never sold a gun and made much money on what I paid for it, and what I've learned when selling a home and property (now that we're thinking about doing so) is to look at the inflation rate when bought vs selling along with how much over the appraised tax vlaue (sell price will ALWAYS be over tax value, question is how much more?).

We don't flip homes, and look at a home as an investment,.