Waterproof Solderless Heat Shrink Butt Terminal on sale

[MTGreen]

I NEVER use crimp connectors on anything. I solder the wires and use epoxy lined heat shrink.

Absolutely agree -crimp connectors are for emergency use on the road to get you home to a solder gun

 

[bdhsfz6]

A good crimp tool is also a must have.

https://www.zoro.com/static/cms/product/large/Grainger_TRxx490xxrgbxx3490db.jpg

I agree. I think the main reason crimp joints fail is because an inferior tool was used.

I've been using one of the original crimp tools made by Thomas & Betts since the early 1960's:

I haven't had a crimp joint fail in over 60 years.

 

[Buggs67]

I use these connectors and I agree about the weak crimp. This can be minimized if the shrink bonds correctly with the wire insulation but this doesn't always happen.

The product I received does not solder and needs to be crimped. This may be the reason it is on sale.
There is a newer version available:

Amazon.com

How Ironic; The Amazon link took me straight to the product I was talking about. And many people here went on about crimp connectors. Just goes show many people do not read the posts.

I assumed I would get a lot of pushback saying "I've been using these for years". I wasted my time posting this. BTW I got my kit and have tried it out. Except for my mistake in setting the heat gun to hot it worked well.

 

[bdhsfz6]

How Ironic; The Amazon link took me straight to the product I was talking about. And many people here went on about crimp connectors. Just goes show many people do not read the posts.

I assumed I would get a lot of pushback saying "I've been using these for years". I wasted my time posting this. BTW I got my kit and have tried it out. Except for my mistake in setting the heat gun to hot it worked well.

Sorry if I derailed your post but the link you posted took me to a product I had ordered some time ago. It's possible Amazon shipped the wrong item but what I received was definitely a crimp only connector.

Again, sorry for any confusion.

 

[Richard001]

I NEVER use crimp connectors on anything. I solder the wires and use epoxy lined heat shrink.

Really ?

What do you do to make a new connection to a gauge that has the push-on terminals ?

Richard

 

[grsthegreat]

Really ?

What do you do to make a new connection to a gauge that has the push-on terminals ?

Richard

I’m not sure what you mean? If it has push on terminals, I simply cut it off and solder wires.

im in the process of adding windshield wiper, front and rear led lights and cab light to my kawasaki mule side by side. I found the accessory push in connections under the cab. I cut off old connectors and soldered and heat shrunk everything adding inline fuses. Done, and will never have to deal with it ever again.

 

[jjeff]

I use a crimping tool like this 15 yrs ago they were a lot more expensive,that won't over squeeze the splice, cuz you over do it your damaging the stranded wire. Cheap but splice connectors don't work the best with these in my experiences, always do a brief pull test on your splice if it looks good but pulls out of wire it will fail. I also put a small dab of dielectric grease on the splices before crimping or heat shrinking probably an overkill but failing electrical due to screwed up splices on wiring that I did on a trailer, boat, or anything is a peeve of mine. Merry Xmas

 

[LittleBill21]

you require different heads depending on what you are crimping. I use these, they come with 4 different jaws depending on what your trying to crimp, and they are ratcheting which is nice

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...737c4f480d0e4&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

 

[rangerfredbob]

Absolutely nothing in a modern anything is soldered unless it is on a circuit board, everything is crimped or sonic welded... We use those shrink butt connectors at work in marine environments and they work fine. We use the ones from PICO electrical supply which is what NAPA and Summit carry apparently, theirs are sturdy and good, at home I cheap out but they are still the glue heat shrink type and I use the non insulated crimp part of the pliers like above (not the ratcheting type, the generic ratchet crimpers I've never liked, the only ratcheting crimpers I've liked are the ones designed for one purpose but they're dumb expensive and only work on one type of terminal...

The shrink butt connectors are light years ahead of the old hard plastic red/blue/yellow butt connectors of yesteryear especially when properly sized, in vehicles I've had I always find yellow's used where reds should be or people cut strands off of 10 AWG wire to fit in blue splices...

 

[MTGreen]

The connections on my in-well pump 160 ft underground in a harsh environment are crimped and designed to be crimped.

I think the big issues for crimp connectors are moisture intrusion/corrosion from lack of sealing, improper crimps, and dissimilar metal corrosion. If you take steps to address all of these potential issues using quality properly sized connectors/heat shrink/quality properly sized crimpers/dissimilar metal protection/etc crimps can last decades

 

[rangerfredbob]

Good point, the heat shrink butt connectors designed for that use are pretty serious, a year ago I replaced my well pump after it'd been underwater for around 9 years (lots of silt and a whole bunch of sand when it was first put in so the impeller was shot, took out the valves in the water softener tanks too) and they were perfectly fine 80' underground (water line was about 20' down so 60' of head on them)

 

[workinonit]

Solder the wires together and use a piece of encapsulated heat shrink.

 

[eKretz]

Properly formed crimps will not fail due to corrosion. If a crimp is properly made, the stands of wire basically cold weld together. No air or liquid can get in to corrode the joint. If you just use a pair of hinged plier type crimpers, you're bound to be making improper crimps. You need a good quality set of crimping pliers that crimp to a set dimension, to use the correct size die, and the terminals need to be properly sized for the wire used. Miss on any of these and you get garbage crimps.

If that's the case, yes, a solder joint will definitely be better. However a properly crimped joint is better yet for any environment with a lot of vibration (tractors, cars, space ships, etc.) due to solder joints being so stiff. Soldered wire joints will often fail at the transition between the soldered and unsoldered wire, especially if there's any movement in the wire. The crimp terminals allow the wire strands to flex and move better.

I do frequently add a bit of adhesive lined heat shrink over my crimped terminals also though, better safe than sorry, and it also adds a little more strain relief and environmental protection, especially in areas where things can get wet and if there are no weather sealed fittings.

 

[boatmoter]

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These connectors are on sale right now at Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T1HYJ9G/ref=twister_B08HLLPW6V?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

these are great. I bought 3 assortment set's of these to rewire my tractor. the shrink tubing on the connectors are really good

 

[boatmoter]

Solder the wires together and use a piece of encapsulated heat shrink.

I would have done that but it would have taken a year to finish the job. did it in 3 months off & on with the connectors with the shrink.too many wire to solder on the rewire job

 

[jack32008]

How Ironic; The Amazon link took me straight to the product I was talking about. And many people here went on about crimp connectors. Just goes show many people do not read the posts.

I assumed I would get a lot of pushback saying "I've been using these for years". I wasted my time posting this. BTW I got my kit and have tried it out. Except for my mistake in setting the heat gun to hot it worked well.

I learned a great deal about a subject I thought I knew well enough because of your post. Your post was NOT a waste of time! Thanks for sharing...

Have a nice day!

 

[AnotherBueller]

these come up a bit, they work fine if your patient, i actually made a video, because everyone said how much they suck and aren't strong.

link to what i used is in the video

I use these, but I always use 2 layers for heat shrink tubing over them (2nd layer as much longer as I can get away with or 1/2"). The reason is that, as seen in the video, is that the end of that kind of heat shrink is hard and rigid which makes for a fatigue point as the wire flexes, at the end of the splice, from vibration. This kind of open is a pita to trouble shoot. It also seems to makes a moisture proof seal.

 

[PA-Kubota]

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These connectors are on sale right now at Amazon. Amazon.com

Local big box auto parts store has them... no need to wait!

 

[AnotherBueller]

The link goes to the solder type connectors thus my bad assumption

Color	RED BLUE YELLOW WHITE
Gauge	10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26
Connector Type	Solder
Contact Material	Tin
Insulation Material	Polyethylene

If I'm remembering right, solder is lead and tin. I forget the percentages. That's why plumbing solder now must say lead free. Don't think it's the same as silver solder though.

 

[AnotherBueller]

Properly formed crimps will not fail due to corrosion. If a crimp is properly made, the stands of wire basically cold weld together. No air or liquid can get in to corrode the joint. If you just use a pair of hinged plier type crimpers, you're bound to be making improper crimps. You need a good quality set of crimping pliers that crimp to a set dimension, to use the correct size die, and the terminals need to be properly sized for the wire used. Miss on any of these and you get garbage crimps.

If that's the case, yes, a solder joint will definitely be better. However a properly crimped joint is better yet for any environment with a lot of vibration (tractors, cars, space ships, etc.) due to solder joints being so stiff. Soldered wire joints will often fail at the transition between the soldered and unsoldered wire, especially if there's any movement in the wire. The crimp terminals allow the wire strands to flex and move better.

I do frequently add a bit of adhesive lined heat shrink over my crimped terminals also though, better safe than sorry, and it also adds a little more strain relief and environmental protection, especially in areas where things can get wet and if there are no weather sealed fittings.

That's what I said.