MX seat is giving up the ghost, replacements?

[sea2summit]

I’m a pretty big OEM guy but when I searched a replacement seat on Messicks…for some reason I thought I could probably find an equal quality option for less than $530!

Any recommendations?

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[scootr]

Not sure the OEM seat is worth $500 It's not that comfortable. TS has some decent seats for half the price but some modification may be needed. Put one of the $250 TS seats on my old tractor once. It was okay.

 

[bdhsfz6]

IMO, a quality tractor seat is worth every penny, especially as you get older.

I spent the extra money on a Kubota air ride seat, made by Grammer, for my MX5800.

Yes, they are pricey but if you put a lot of hours on your tractor, your back will thank you many times over!

 

[Williy]

If the frame is OK then take the seat to a upholstery shop and they
can fix you up with what ever kind of material you want o;r check
with a body shop and perhaps they can steer you in the right direction

willy

 

[jyoutz]

If the frame is OK then take the seat to a upholstery shop and they
can fix you up with what ever kind of material you want o;r check
with a body shop and perhaps they can steer you in the right direction

willy

Yep. Good idea. Any auto upholstery shop should be able to rebuild the seat and add a better foundation cushion. And maybe the new armrests for the MX6000 could be added.

 

[sea2summit]

If the frame is OK then take the seat to a upholstery shop and they
can fix you up with what ever kind of material you want o;r check
with a body shop and perhaps they can steer you in the right direction

willy

Hmmmm, hadn’t considered that.

 

[redman135]

If you go the reupholster route, do the up/down slides as well as they wear and stick with dust etc, instead of smooth bump absorbtion.

 

[5030]

Personally, I think Grammer seats suck. I had one in my cab M9 and I took it out and replaced with a Seats, Incorporated real seat. I also replaced the shi**y seat on my open station M9 with a cordura covered Talon seat and Michigan seat suspension system. Kubota seats are insanely priced for a molded vinyl seat that only nets you a sweaty butt and an empty wallet. I spend a lot of hours in my seats running hay and the last thing I want is a sweaty butt or a crappy seat that lacks even rudimentary adjustments like the Grammer seat don't have. Both of them went to the curb and some dumpster diver snatched them both.

Far as I am concerned, the last thing on Kubota's mind is a quality seat. I don't much care of it's Kubota branded or not. A crappy seat is a crappy seat and Kubota excels in selling overpriced crappy vinyl and crappy Grammer seats for inflated prices. I don't play that game and never will.

 

[bmaverick]

Why are seats cracking? Its just another thing to service and maintain now. The tractor companies with their China suppliers have removed the UV protective additive from their formulations. Seats in the past lasted 20+ years, today, the expensive seats only last 5 years if you are lucky enough.

On the Yanmar Tractor Owners Forum with the Deere siblings, we've gotten tired of the $80 to $200 seat replacements every few years now. Its gotten so bad, the only viable solution now are Marine boat seats with the thicker material and UV protection like before.

Atwood makes this really nice seat,
Needing orange, there are far and few choices. People just go with black or the camo.

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You get two of the seat for the price of 1 lousy tractor version sold today.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HTYSUPPLY-High-Back-Folding-Fishing-Boat-Seat-Camo-2-Seats/5004352501

• DESIGN:high-back boat seat design ideal for fishing and boating, aluminum hinges enable backrest to be flipped down, creating more space.
• DURABLE: durable seat can withstand the long-term rigors of a marine environment.
• BOAT SEAT DIMENSION: Height 21.5 ” X Width 17.3 ” X Depth 17.5 ”， Weight Limit :250 Ibs.
• MATERIAL:compression foam padding remains firm after long-term use.Marine grade heavy duty polyester.
• INSTALLATION: easy to install on any standard 5" X 5" fishing pedestals or swivels, 4 stainless steel mounting screws included. No swivel/pedestal included.
• NOTE: Photo may slightly different from Actual Item in Terms of color due to the lighting during Photo Shooting or the Monitor's display.

Some of the Deere 50, 55, 70 and 90 series compact tractors have the option for the 30 degree seat swivel. Basically it's just the boat seat swivel. And much of the time the seat mounting is identical to plenty of tractor seats too from the 1980s to now.

I found a Wise boat seat at an estate sale this past summer for a mere $15. And it came with the swivel on the base. It was never used.

View attachment 2611893

Yes, this is a very low end marine seat as the bottom uses the plastic typar, yet it will outlast any of the modern tractor seats out there today. I have laid in an underseat bezel to keep material from coming loose. Hey for $15, I couldn't pass up the deal. The seat goes for $25 and the swivel for $20.

Atwood does have one with some orange in it,

Wise makes this one,

other gray/black types,

Get 2 for the price of 1. Thus, a spare,

 

[jyoutz]

Why are seats cracking? Its just another thing to service and maintain now. The tractor companies with their China suppliers have removed the UV protective additive from their formulations. Seats in the past lasted 20+ years, today, the expensive seats only last 5 years if you are lucky enough.

On the Yanmar Tractor Owners Forum with the Deere siblings, we've gotten tired of the $80 to $200 seat replacements every few years now. Its gotten so bad, the only viable solution now are Marine boat seats with the thicker material and UV protection like before.

Atwood makes this really nice seat,
Needing orange, there are far and few choices. People just go with black or the camo.

View attachment 2611892

You get two of the seat for the price of 1 lousy tractor version sold today.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HTYSUPPLY-High-Back-Folding-Fishing-Boat-Seat-Camo-2-Seats/5004352501

• DESIGN:high-back boat seat design ideal for fishing and boating, aluminum hinges enable backrest to be flipped down, creating more space.
• DURABLE: durable seat can withstand the long-term rigors of a marine environment.
• BOAT SEAT DIMENSION: Height 21.5 ” X Width 17.3 ” X Depth 17.5 ”， Weight Limit :250 Ibs.
• MATERIAL:compression foam padding remains firm after long-term use.Marine grade heavy duty polyester.
• INSTALLATION: easy to install on any standard 5" X 5" fishing pedestals or swivels, 4 stainless steel mounting screws included. No swivel/pedestal included.
• NOTE: Photo may slightly different from Actual Item in Terms of color due to the lighting during Photo Shooting or the Monitor's display.

Some of the Deere 50, 55, 70 and 90 series compact tractors have the option for the 30 degree seat swivel. Basically it's just the boat seat swivel. And much of the time the seat mounting is identical to plenty of tractor seats too from the 1980s to now.

I found a Wise boat seat at an estate sale this past summer for a mere $15. And it came with the swivel on the base. It was never used.

View attachment 2611893

Yes, this is a very low end marine seat as the bottom uses the plastic typar, yet it will outlast any of the modern tractor seats out there today. I have laid in an underseat bezel to keep material from coming loose. Hey for $15, I couldn't pass up the deal. The seat goes for $25 and the swivel for $20.

Atwood does have one with some orange in it,
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Wise makes this one,
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other gray/black types,
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Get 2 for the price of 1. Thus, a spare,
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I just bought a cordura fabric Durafit seat cover soon after I bought my tractor. The cover was less than $40 and protects the seat from UV and keeps the seat cool in the sun.

 

[5030]

Still vinyl and vinyl blows in hot weather as in sweaty crack...lol I much prefer Cordura at least in my open station, my cab tractor had a Seats, Inc., cloth seat i some sort of textured fabric but that in the cab and not out in the weather and Cordura is impervious tp the weather, even though I put a large plastic garbage bag over it to keep the cats from sleeping on it and leaving fur behind.

All seats today adhere to the ISO standard for threaded bolt holes so most (unless real cheap) are basically plug and play and as far as a swivel base goes, I want a locking swivel base so I went with a Seats, Inc., swivel base on my cab unit and it mated right up to the air suspension Grammer base I left in the cab when I canned the crappy Grammer seat that had no lumbar support and the armrests were cheap blow molded plastic. Least they did adjust. I spend a ton of time on my tractors during the summer and I want to be comfortable and no sweaty crack either.

 

[jyoutz]

Still vinyl and vinyl blows in hot weather as in sweaty crack...lol I much prefer Cordura at least in my open station, my cab tractor had a Seats, Inc., cloth seat i some sort of textured fabric but that in the cab and not out in the weather and Cordura is impervious tp the weather, even though I put a large plastic garbage bag over it to keep the cats from sleeping on it and leaving fur behind.

All seats today adhere to the ISO standard for threaded bolt holes so most (unless real cheap) are basically plug and play and as far as a swivel base goes, I want a locking swivel base so I went with a Seats, Inc., swivel base on my cab unit and it mated right up to the air suspension Grammer base I left in the cab when I canned the crappy Grammer seat that had no lumbar support and the armrests were cheap blow molded plastic. Least they did adjust. I spend a ton of time on my tractors during the summer and I want to be comfortable and no sweaty crack either.

I still think that any good auto upholstery shop could take a metal seat pan of any OEM seat and build it up with a high quality dense foam and cover with a good cordura fabric for far cheaper and maybe build better than a custom replacement seat.

 

[5030]

I just bought a cordura fabric Durafit seat cover soon after I bought my tractor. The cover was less than $40 and protects the seat from UV and keeps the seat cool in the sun.

And I know where you got it from... remember? But then I bought the Talon complete seat at the same time, not the Cordura cover and the seat was very reasonable and delivered in a very timely ,manner as well. Cordura is the only way to fly with ANY open station tractor. It weathers excellent and no sweaty crack either. Mine is just peachy and the OS unit does spend quite a bit of time outside in the warmer months. I do have the sunshade mounted to the ROPS but the seat still gets a lot of sun anyway.

 

[CADplans]

And I know where you got it from... remember? But then I bought the Talon complete seat at the same time, not the Cordura cover and the seat was very reasonable and delivered in a very timely ,manner as well. Cordura is the only way to fly with ANY open station tractor. It weathers excellent and no sweaty crack either. Mine is just peachy and the OS unit does spend quite a bit of time outside in the warmer months. I do have the sunshade mounted to the ROPS but the seat still gets a lot of sun anyway.

Did someone mention CORDURA!!?? I got mine from Rural King,,

That seat is called a zero-turn mower replacement.
I guess some people spend lots of time on zero-turns??

The seat on my 584IH is all-day comfortable,, it is a forklift seat.
Look at forklift seats,, there are some REALLY nice ones.

 

[5030]

Gee, mine came from Rural King as well and so did another poster on this thread. In fact he pointed me in the right direction and your seat and mine are identical right down to the clunky fore and aft slider.

 

[CADplans]

Gee, mine came from Rural King as well and so did another poster on this thread. In fact he pointed me in the right direction and your seat and mine are identical right down to the clunky fore and aft slider.

I have the one in the pic, and two more in the box, never opened.
RK kept reducing the price, they had them on clearance, I kept getting tempted,,
Finally, at $17 each, delivered, I could not stand it, I ordered the two that are still in the box.

The one on the tractor was bought at a slightly higher price,, maybe $34?? something like that.

I stay off the RK clearance website, My shed would be too full to fit the tractors!! LOL!!

 

[jyoutz]

I have the one in the pic, and two more in the box, never opened.
RK kept reducing the price, they had them on clearance, I kept getting tempted,,
Finally, at $17 each, delivered, I could not stand it, I ordered the two that are still in the box.

The one on the tractor was bought at a slightly higher price,, maybe $34?? something like that.

I stay off the RK clearance website, My shed would be too full to fit the tractors!! LOL!!

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That’s an insanely cheap price. At that price it’s a no brainer to give it a try.

 

[Williy]

Then if you handy you can go to a fabric shop and get the material
that you need and build your own new seat! You can get information
on the internet on how to do this and its not that hard to DIY!
If you do this you will be surprised how much money you can save

willyr

 

[5030]

I have the one in the pic, and two more in the box, never opened.
RK kept reducing the price, they had them on clearance, I kept getting tempted,,
Finally, at $17 each, delivered, I could not stand it, I ordered the two that are still in the box.

The one on the tractor was bought at a slightly higher price,, maybe $34?? something like that.

I stay off the RK clearance website, My shed would be too full to fit the tractors!! LOL!!

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Too bad your tractors are all the wrong color and a bit too small for what I do anyway. My motto is go orange or stay home and I don't mean Kioti orange either......

 

[5030]

Then if you handy you can go to a fabric shop and get the material
that you need and build your own new seat! You can get information
on the internet on how to do this and its not that hard to DIY!
If you do this you will be surprised how much money you can save

willyr

I somehow don't believe you could match the RK price at any upholstery shop today. My seat wears like iron and the cats love it as well... Mind you I don't like cats but they came with the marriage 37 years ago and somehow keep multiplying.... 10 in the house and 10 or so outside. House cats go out regularly but all come back in at night when it's time to eat. I don't pay for cat food either. My wife's expense. We do have a couple that actually like me, even though I don't like them. I guess they know that so they impose themselves on me constantly. Nothing better than a cat winding between my legs when I trying to take a poop...lol