Will UAW Strike?

[Gale Hawkins]

But at some of these meetings the minds haven't showed up!

Not a requirement that the mind shows up if it's already made up.

 

[Hay Dude]

1) this is initial quality, not customer satisfaction
2) initial quality is a useless measurement unless you want a vehicle for a year or two

Unless you like running back to the dealer for repairs frequently after you write the check, yeah, I guess.

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

A lot of the review/award company's are ran by the companies they award. And now a days all reviews are bought and paid for.

 

[Hay Dude]

A lot of the review/award company's are ran by the companies they award. And now a days all reviews are bought and paid for.

Auto reviews are only useful when they make YOUR brand look good, otherwise they are all wrong LOL

 

[tradosaurus]

As much respect as I have for Elon Musk and Tesla, I loathe electric vehicles. They've become a physical representation of so much that I find repulsive about the world right now.

 

[tradosaurus]

Perhaps you are correct. I hope you are correct.

I drive from St Louis to Tampa —- roughly 1000 miles. 5-6 times/year. It’s easy in a gas car - stop for gas/coffee every 300 miles. Interstate all the way.

I can make the trip in 16 hours.

How long would you think it would take in a Tesla? Would I have to spend the night along the way?

Easy solution is to have an EV for mostly local driving and ICE for towing, hauling, or long trips. I still have my F250 diesel.

I wouldn't hesitate driving my Model Y anywhere in the country and stopping every 200-240 miles for 20 minutes would force me go to the restroom more.

Now my Chevrolet Bolt EV that my daughter is using I would not drive long distances because it takes about 45 minutes to get a enough miles to the next charger, which may or may not be working, because at this point it can't use Tesla Superchargers.

 

[tacticalturnip]

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Oh Lord, she is probably old enough to drink these days- how long has she been a walking, talking meme?

 

[tradosaurus]

Not in this survey

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When I saw Ram/Dodge at the top I knew the graph was wrong.

 

[Hay Dude]

When I saw Ram/Dodge at the top I knew the graph was wrong.

I’ve had VERY few problems with my Ram. You’d be surprised at their improvements in quality.
My previous Fords were stone cold AWFUL

 

[tradosaurus]

I’ve had VERY few problems with my Ram. You’d be surprised at their improvements in quality.
My previous Fords were stone cold AWFUL

I would like to know how the above date was gathered and what car manufacturers donate money to JD Powers.

Interesting that "Tesla is not included due to small sample size". Wut?

 

[tacticalturnip]

I really liked my RAM, and really regret totaling it.

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

Curious if they do dependability studies after a cars has been out only a year or 2. I wanna know 5 to 10 years down the road what it's like

 

[Torvy]

Curious if they do dependability studies after a cars has been out only a year or 2. I wanna know 5 to 10 years down the road what it's like

Check Consumer Reports. Not a fan of their activist side, but they do a good job of research.

You do need to deep dive on ratings. Some of the things that get a lot of weight with them are not super important. The reliability part is great. It is based on actual customer surveys and real data. They also don't take advertising, so less likely to cave to brand pressure.

Every model has individual units that will fail. The broad data shows which models are less likely to have those problems.

 

[Torvy]

Easy solution is to have an EV for mostly local driving and ICE for towing, hauling, or long trips. I still have my F250 diesel.

I wouldn't hesitate driving my Model Y anywhere in the country and stopping every 200-240 miles for 20 minutes would force me go to the restroom more.

Now my Chevrolet Bolt EV that my daughter is using I would not drive long distances because it takes about 45 minutes to get a enough miles to the next charger, which may or may not be working, because at this point it can't use Tesla Superchargers.

Even easier to have a plug in hybrid. You get full EV for short runs, but are not hobbled by the short range and long charge times (including waiting in line).

 

[MossRoad]

 

[Paystar]

Oh Lord, she is probably old enough to drink these days- how long has she been a walking, talking meme?

Every time I see that lunatic it reminds me why a lot of people on this planet should not reproduce.

 

[Paystar]

Curious if they do dependability studies after a cars has been out only a year or 2. I wanna know 5 to 10 years down the road what it's like

I got those satisfaction survey's within the first year I bought my new vehicles (Kubota's included) then never ever got one again.

A lot of good that does eh? At least give it time for me to get them to a dealer for an oil change, LOL

 

[shooterdon]

What goes into "Customer Satisfaction"? Does the dealer having free coffee and warm cookies like my MB dealer had score bonus points?

What would be useful is Repari/Maintenance Costs in 5 years and 10 years.

Taking in a vehicle for a four $400 repairs sucks but not as much as one $5000 repair. Gentleman on this forum is facing a $7k plus repair on his Tesla after less than 10 years and 75k miles. That has to hurt.

Edited to add....
BTW, my E430 went over 18 years and 300k with less than $6k of repairs/maintenance. Loved the freshly baked chocolate chip cookies while waiting for service. Totaled the car when I hit a doe and fawn at the same time.

 

[MoKelly]

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I would like to know how the above date was gathered and what car manufacturers donate money to JD Powers.

Interesting that "Tesla is not included due to small sample size". Wut?

How can this even be close to true?

Kia is the best? Have you read about all the engine failures Kia has —- to the point they agreed (due to class action lawsuits) to replace (for free) any engine that failed.

My son had a Kia Soul. Engine failed at 85000 miles. Kia replaced for free - but it took 3 weeks to complete. One week later, check engine light comes on and it takes 2 more weeks to get replacement part.

 

[dodge man]

One thing to keep in mind is how are these satisfaction surveys done. For example consumers reports get people that mail them in voluntarily. That may or may not be a real representation. It may get people that hate their vehicle or love their vehicle to respond and might not represent the silent majority,