Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell

/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #101  
yep, but running a trucking company, excavation business, school buses, horse lesson barn, firewood processing and others may not be compliant with local ordinances.
If the farm moved in a started doing all that stuff in an area zoned residential I could see your point. Since residents moved in next to the farm and started complaining about farming activity I can’t. This is why a lot of farmers quit, or their kids just get tired of dealing with it and don’t want to. Regulate that.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #102  
How about - intolerable consequences for any persons bad behavior. To include frivolous law suits.

That is exactly what I am saying. It seems to me that frivolous lawsuits are just dismissed without consequence unless there is a long history of them.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #103  
I have horses boarded next door to me. I don’t know what they do with their manure, but I have never smelled it in the 26 years I’ve lived beside them.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #105  
We had a similar thing happen here a few years back actually several times. People move in next to farms and complain about stinky stuff. Racetracks there since the beginning of racing have people move in and complain about noises. If your attorney is worth his salt there’s a lot of cases on record out there thrown out without going to court based on what people should have had common sense to know when they moved in next to a farm.
In Washington State there is a form that is included with the escrow papers that basically says that the purchased property is in an area with farms, mining or industry, as a result may include smells, noises, traffic and dust. The form is signed and included with the county paper work. It cuts down on a lot of law suits.
In the spring the dairy farmers use the liquid manure that has been aging in the lagoon for 6 months and spray it on their silage fields with ag sprinklers. Within a mile down wind, it can curl your nose hair and make your eyes water. I lived near a silage field. Happily, the farmer used a slice in system that sprayed the manure directly into the slice. It smelled bad the day he was doing it and abated after that. Three days later, it wasn't even noticeable.
When people would complain to about the smell, the dairy farmers answer was "it smells like money."
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #106  
I have horses boarded next door to me. I don’t know what they do with their manure, but I have never smelled it in the 26 years I’ve lived beside them.
We have horses and as far as manure goes there is very little smell if anything once you get past it getting rained on. Maybe the OP should consider starting a pig or turkey operation so the accusations could be worthwhile but still pointless at the same time. 😁
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #107  
In Washington State there is a form that is included with the escrow papers that basically says that the purchased property is in an area with farms, mining or industry, as a result may include smells, noises, traffic and dust. The form is signed and included with the county paper work. It cuts down on a lot of law suits.
In the spring the dairy farmers use the liquid manure that has been aging in the lagoon for 6 months and spray it on their silage fields with ag sprinklers. Within a mile down wind, it can curl your nose hair and make your eyes water. I lived near a silage field. Happily, the farmer used a slice in system that sprayed the manure directly into the slice. It smelled bad the day he was doing it and abated after that. Three days later, it wasn't even noticeable.
When people would complain to about the smell, the dairy farmers answer was "it smells like money."
Years ago I was working someplace in Vermont, traveling past an ice cream shop surrounded by fields. It was early spring and they were spraying those fields while the ice cream shop just kept serving customers. Back then I was apt to stop and get something for the ride home, but I never stopped there.

I have horses boarded next door to me. I don’t know what they do with their manure, but I have never smelled it in the 26 years I’ve lived beside them.
I would be that neighbor they hated. Every October I’d be knocking on their door saying “Mind if I get a few trailer loads of ***t?” :)
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #108  
This is to protect the Realtors from nuisance lawsuits. The disclosure may make it easier for the defendant(respondent) to prevail, it will not stop the suits. The only thing that stops those suits are laws that punish the person suing AND the lawyer they used for filing a frivolous suit in the first place.
No - when people buy they sign the form as an acknowledgement that they are aware of farming in the area. This is proof that they knew going in that the property is near farm operations that include noise dust odors etc. This law is to keep people from shutting down farms over natural effects of farm operations. It may protect a real estate agent from a suit too but its main purpose is to protect an existing farm. The case study shows how this evolved over a period of time
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #109  
No - when people buy they sign the form as an acknowledgement that they are aware of farming in the area. This is proof that they knew going in that the property is near farm operations that include noise dust odors etc. This law is to keep people from shutting down farms over natural effects of farm operations. It may protect a real estate agent from a suit too but its main purpose is to protect an existing farm. The case study shows how this evolved over a period of time
You are confusing the stated purpose, protecting farmers, with the actual purpose, protecting realtors. People still sue the farmers maybe they win, maybe they lose. The suits are a problem even if you win. Costs, both monetary and time affect farmers despite the law. Realtors, though, don't get sued anymore because their only risk would be not telling a buyer about a problem. Lawyers will not take the case against a realtor because the signed declaration covers them.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #110  
That is exactly what I am saying. It seems to me that frivolous lawsuits are just dismissed without consequence unless there is a long history of them.
We have a local judge who is the opposite. He doesn't seem to want to dismiss anything for fear that the court of appeals will tell him he has to hear it and mess up his golf schedule. When he is involved, it seems to be settle or go to trial.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #111  
No - when people buy they sign the form as an acknowledgement that they are aware of farming in the area. This is proof that they knew going in that the property is near farm operations that include noise dust odors etc. This law is to keep people from shutting down farms over natural effects of farm operations. It may protect a real estate agent from a suit too but its main purpose is to protect an existing farm. The case study shows how this evolved over a period of time
They also can't claim that said operation is lowering their property values as it was an existing factor when they bought it. It's sort of the equivalent "buying as is, no warranty" paper you sign when buying an older used car.
It doesn't stop all suits, but I can't think of a single lawsuit filed over farming operations in that county in the last 30 years. The population more than doubled in the time I lived there and homes were being built all over in the farming areas.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #112  
You are confusing the stated purpose, protecting farmers, with the actual purpose, protecting realtors. People still sue the farmers maybe they win, maybe they lose. The suits are a problem even if you win. Costs, both monetary and time affect farmers despite the law. Realtors, though, don't get sued anymore because their only risk would be not telling a buyer about a problem. Lawyers will not take the case against a realtor because the signed declaration covers them.
It's going to be a bit difficult to find a lawyer who will take it on contingency. The complainant will have to pay the lawyer up front, and that tends to stop a lot of suits from ever being filed. When the lawyer starts talking about thousands of dollars in fees, well maybe the smell isn't so bad after all.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #113  
When I had my first big boy IT job, I was singled out as the country bumpkin. One of my coworkers asked me why farmers spread cow poop on the fields rather than, and I quote, "Putting it in the sewer where it belongs."

I didn't last long at that place.

In relation to OP: If you're doing everything correctly, They have no legal leg to stand on. I think they were hoping you'd just bend the knee after seeing the word "LAWSUIT."
The problem is they have legal fees for this frivolous lawsuit. I probably would have represented myself in court and filed motion to dismiss or keep delaying the lawsuit.

Winning and collecting damages are two different things.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #114  
I like dogs, but not wandering dogs. I was at the farm last year and this massive, male wandering mastiff got near me. It was a scary lookin monster. Wished I had my 9mm for a moment there. Ended up chasing it off with a 2x4.
There’s no excuse for gigantic wandering, territorial dogs. Could kill a child.

Went to college with a spectacular D-1 woman athlete who was killed by 2 of those Cane Corsica monster dogs.
Pit bulls and the like are an immediate "get rid of" if they are on my property. I would take no chances.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #115  
I am being sued by my absentee adjoining landowner for $220,000 so I feel ya.... They claim our Great Pyrenees are a nuisance and trespassing, and have caused property damage.. even though there is no leash in law in the county they are claiming as if there was. We are in the Discovery phase right now.

In my area of the country, nuisance dogs are usually taken care of permanently. Had a guy on a local face book page complaining that someone poisoned his dog .
I made a response that if I loved my dog I would have a fenced in area to keep the dog from roaming and being a nuisance. He didn't like that answer.
Usually a Daisy BB gun is enough to deter wandering dogs on my property.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #116  
That is exactly what I am saying. It seems to me that frivolous lawsuits are just dismissed without consequence unless there is a long history of them.

After enough of them the court system brands you a "vexatious litigant" and your lawsuits have to clear additional hurdles just to get filed. We had a former neighbor who went that way. He was a real piece of work.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #117  
Pit bulls and the like are an immediate "get rid of" if they are on my property. I would take no chances.
There was a pit bull living near me that would chase my car every time I drove home. The road was on the outside of a green belt adjoining the development. One night on the way home I saw a pair of eyes in my headlights and then they disappeared. As I drove by a power pole I heard a bark growl thump as it tried to chase my headlight as I passed. I went and turned around and came back and saw no sign of the dog then... or ever again. I don't know if I mortally wounded it, or if the owners decided to keep it fenced in after that. It broke the plastic wheel well molding on my Cherokee, but it fixed easily with a little glue.
Usually a Daisy BB gun is enough to deter wandering dogs on my property.
Around here you would be better off to kill it outright than wounding it and facing animal cruelty charges. The media loves to show X-rays of BBs under a dog's skin.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #118  
There was a pit bull living near me that would chase my car every time I drove home. The road was on the outside of a green belt adjoining the development. One night on the way home I saw a pair of eyes in my headlights and then they disappeared. As I drove by a power pole I heard a bark growl thump as it tried to chase my headlight as I passed. I went and turned around and came back and saw no sign of the dog then... or ever again. I don't know if I mortally wounded it, or if the owners decided to keep it fenced in after that. It broke the plastic wheel well molding on my Cherokee, but it fixed easily with a little glue.

Around here you would be better off to kill it outright than wounding it and facing animal cruelty charges. The media loves to show X-rays of BBs under a dog's skin.

Unless you got right up to an animal with the Daisy BB gun you wouldn't "wound" the animal. Just stings it from a distance.
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #119  
You are confusing the stated purpose, protecting farmers, with the actual purpose, protecting realtors. People still sue the farmers maybe they win, maybe they lose. The suits are a problem even if you win. Costs, both monetary and time affect farmers despite the law. Realtors, though, don't get sued anymore because their only risk would be not telling a buyer about a problem. Lawyers will not take the case against a realtor because the signed declaration covers them.
These forms are required in any real property transaction whether a real estate agent is involved or not. Its a state law and is in place to protect buyers and sellers of real property. I sell real estate in Michigan
 
/ Neighbors Sue for Horse Manure Pile Smell #120  
These forms are required in any real property transaction whether a real estate agent is involved or not. Its a state law and is in place to protect buyers and sellers of real property. I sell real estate in Michigan
That makes sense.
 

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