When is a Tree Puller a Grapple?

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Toolcat 5610 G - Bobcat V417 - TORO+Loader
When it picks up a branch broken off by the wind. :D

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View from the seat.
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Clamped on tight.
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Grappled! (y)
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Took it to the burn pile.
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Un-grappled!
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What exactly is that? Is it like a hand? If it is, I'm sure operating it would make it seem like the hand of GOD! lol That would be really handy for cutting down hawthornes. Because no matter how you cut them, they fall on you. So you could grab it, put some upward force on it, and cut it off with a chain saw without worry.

Nice brush pile. Sad note though. How do you make sure that no animals have nested in there? I have burned such piles routinely, and have found the remains of snakes for instance. I hate snakes but would not wish being burned alive on any living creature. Well, maybe I could make an exception for politicians and lawyers!
 
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What exactly is that? Is it like a hand? If it is, I'm sure operating it would make it seem like the hand of GOD! lol That would be really handy for cutting down hawthornes. Because no matter how you cut them, they fall on you. So you could grab it, put some upward force on it, and cut it off with a chain saw without worry.

It is a long arm tree puller. Buckthorn Puller - Custom built Skid Steer attachments to fit almost any need you may have.

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Check this thread for it's normal use: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/277824-tree-puller.html#post3444397

Nice brush pile. Sad note though. How do you make sure that no animals have nested in there? I have burned such piles routinely, and have found the remains of snakes for instance. I hate snakes but would not wish being burned alive on any living creature. Well, maybe I could make an exception for politicians and lawyers!

They have always left when the fire starts.

This is one from two years ago, same spot.

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NICE FIRE!

The Gurl Guides would be happy!

So is that thing supposed to rip things out of the ground? Would they have not been better to put the cylinder out to the side to keep the pull closer to the machine? I know, around here, it takes a lot of power to rip even a small tree out of the ground.
 
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NICE FIRE!

The Gurl Guides would be happy!

So is that thing supposed to rip things out of the ground?

Yep, it is a tree and post puller.

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Would they have not been better to put the cylinder out to the side to keep the pull closer to the machine? I know, around here, it takes a lot of power to rip even a small tree out of the ground.

They make them that way also.

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This really makes me question how different types of ground affect the possibility of ripping a tree straight out of the ground. I have seen ads of farm tractor loader V type attachments ripping 3 or 4 inch trees out of the ground but around here that don't work! What do you figure your lifting capacity at the pinch point?
 
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This really makes me question how different types of ground affect the possibility of ripping a tree straight out of the ground. I have seen ads of farm tractor loader V type attachments ripping 3 or 4 inch trees out of the ground but around here that don't work! What do you figure your lifting capacity at the pinch point?

It would be over 5,000 pounds, but for big trees I have to extend the boom while lifting, curling up and driving forward. Drawbar pull is 7,000 pounds, boom breakout force is 6700 lbf, bucket breakout force is 4700 lbf.

I tried to measure max lift here: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/bobcat-construction-equipment/275747-v417-max-lift.html
 
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I wonder how well it would pull out bamboo. I would rather try to pull it out instead of cutting it close to the ground. This way it wouldn't leave short stalks sticking up from the ground that could cause problems.
 
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Do you have to pre-dig around the tree? Or do you just drive up and rip it out? Awsome attachment !
 
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Do you have to pre-dig around the tree? Or do you just drive up and rip it out? Awsome attachment !
No digging, Here is the tree shown in post #5.

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View from the seat, clamped on to the trunk.

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Pulled, these cedars don't have a tap root. :thumbsup:

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Shook the dirt off.

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Have you tried it on stumps?

How short do you think a stump could be and it still work?
 
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Have you tried it on stumps?

How short do you think a stump could be and it still work?
No, don't have many small stumps, the jaws open to 8".

It would have to stick up about 4" to get a good grip on it. If it has a large tap root, it probably couldn't pull it.

With a tall tree, you can lean it over to break the surface roots. Here is one that it struggled with.

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Lifted the rear up off of the ground.
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Bumping this old thread since I am still using the tree puller.

A little cedar tree ahead:
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Clamped on the trunk:
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Pulled it:
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Shook the dirt off of the roots:
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That is an awesome implement. I'm pretty sure that it would pull my small pines. I thin my stands and remove trees - 1" to 6" on the butt. I don't know if it would reduce the work load any though.

My young stands of pines are thick as the hair on a hound dog. I use a small Stihl chainsaw to thin. The TOUGH part is dragging all these fallen trees out of the stand and to a pile. A stand that has been thinned looks like a giants game of Pick-Up-Sticks. Dragging - and me not falling - is the trick.

I've tried using the grapple on the M6040 to pick and remove the fallen trees. It takes more time than dragging by hand. The tractor just isn't nimble enough and the young pines tend to fall in ALL directions.

I still have to get rid of the tree - one way or another. Chipping or burning. I've chosen to chip.

I burn my pile in the winter. Wildfire concerns dictate doing it then.

I had my big pines selectively logged about fifteen years ago. I was going to eliminate the slash piles but saw they were being used by the wildlife. I left them to Mother Nature and the wildlife appreciate it.

I've noticed a significant increase of quail - in and around my property.
 
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