4707

   / 4707 #541  
Those valves come unpainted. Looks like it just sat outside after they installed it. You'd think a dealer would slap some paint on it though.
 
   / 4707 #542  
well, you sure got experience in powerwashing your tractor after that...
I didn't think you could get those Trelleborg radials stuck
well, if you're going to do it...
sure is a nice looking tractor though
I had a bit of a learning curve and looks like others do too

MM, that part looks nasty.
 
   / 4707 #543  
alright I just needed practice with the loader, i was able to push myself out.

Anyone know whats going on with this 3rd remote? It looks like they took it off another tractor used rather than install a new one. The handle inside also looks like its from a different model

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Whilst I don't have one on my tractor, I poked around on Tractorhouse for a few ones listed with 3rd valves and they don't look that bad or have those Husco hydraulics stickers on them. If it were me, I'd definitely bring it up with the dealer. Wondering if they are having trouble sourcing original parts from the factory and are using alternatives perhaps?

Either way, for the cost of these tractors, I would bring it up.


Here is one I found on Tractorhouse - doesn't look anywhere close to yours in terms of the rust or stickers:
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   / 4707 #544  
Husco is the brand of the valves that Massey Ferguson uses on these tractors. They also use that brand on the 2600H series as well. That picture is a tractor that most likely had a factory installed 3rd remote so it was painted at the factory.
 
   / 4707 #545  
Husco is the brand of the valves that Massey Ferguson uses on these tractors. They also use that brand on the 2600H series as well. That picture is a tractor that most likely had a factory installed 3rd remote so it was painted at the factory.
Ahh that makes sense! I wonder why Husco doesn't at least have a basic protective layer of paint on them from their factory?
 
   / 4707 #546  
Ahh that makes sense! I wonder why Husco doesn't at least have a basic protective layer of paint on them from their factory?
That is a good question. If memory serves the few valves and valve components I've purchased from them have been painted black in years past.
 
   / 4707 #547  
Has anyone been able to find a good fault code list for these tractors? I'd love to know what a couple fault codes are that I've seen during PTO engagement.
 
   / 4707 #548  
Has anyone been able to find a good fault code list for these tractors? I'd love to know what a couple fault codes are that I've seen during PTO engagement.
I have not, curious what your codes are?
 
   / 4707 #549  
When I started my bush hog the other day when the tractor had only been running about 5 minutes I got h 5 with 500028 below. It shut the pto off when it logged the fault so I flipped the switch off and on again and it started up fine and ran normal. I mowed about 2 minutes with it and cut the pto off and waited for the cutter to stop spinning and started the pto again and all was fine. I start the pto at about 1100 engine rpm. This is my 12' batwing cutter and my 4710.
 
   / 4707 #550  
Hooked my Deere MX10 rotary cutter to my 4707 on Thursday. Kicked the pto on at like 1300rpm, killed the tractor. Rev’d it up some more, kicked it on, tractor made a bunch of racket under the cab, threw a code, and kicked the pto off. Called the dealer, they came and got the tractor (90 miles for them) within 24hrs.

They say the mower is just too big for the tractor. Deere recommends minimum 60 pto hp for the lift type mower that I have. 40 pto hp for a pull type. I have a hard time believing that the tractor can’t even spin that mower with no load. I didn’t figure it would be ideal, but thought it would work OK for mowing approaches, and Ran it on a 3020 gasser for years with no issues.

Dealer is doing a good job of taking care of me… but this one has me scratching my head a little.
Mine will die sometimes with the big stuff. I get around 1200 rpm engage the pto just long enough to get it moving the back out the engage it right back in while you got the shaft moving and it will usually take on off. Kinda hard to ease it in gear like the old mechanical type but it works. Sometimes it takes 2 bumps if I’m at idle before letting it completely engage
 
   / 4707 #551  
I do the same thing. You wouldn't think a 88 PTO hp tractor would have any issues starting a PTO implement that is rated for a maximum of 75 PTO hp but it almost hurts me when I flip that switch and feel it jerk the tractor like it does. I miss the old Massey's two stage clutches for this very reason.
 
   / 4707 #552  
Anybody know why tractor manufacturers changed from PTO levers where the operator could manually ease the PTO on, and replacing them with electric switches that slam the PTO on?

Seems like an example of taking a proven effective design and replacing it with something that often doesn’t work.
 
   / 4707 #553  
Anybody know why tractor manufacturers changed from PTO levers where the operator could manually ease the PTO on, and replacing them with electric switches that slam the PTO on?

Seems like an example of taking a proven effective design and replacing it with something that often doesn’t work.
Because people are lazy, they think it's new technology and better, especially the people who didn't grow up with tractors and are used to having a car that does everything for them.

How folks could "think" it's better I'll never understand!

SR
 
   / 4707 #554  
Because people are lazy, they think it's new technology and better, especially the people who didn't grow up with tractors and are used to having a car that does everything for them.

How folks could "think" it's better I'll never understand!

SR
There are electrically engaged PTOs that work nice.

Believe it or not, there is a difference between being lazy, and enjoying something that's not done the "hard way".

No PTO levers are not bad... but the one on our 9220 sucks, and engaging it every 12-15 minutes for 16 hours a day is not fun. The electric on the new Deeres is WAY nicer.
 
   / 4707 #555  
No PTO levers are not bad... but the one on our 9220 sucks, and engaging it every 12-15 minutes for 16 hours a day is not fun. The electric on the new Deeres is WAY nicer.
UNTIL it isn't, and that day is coming!

Neighbor just bought a new deere to rake hay with, it slams the pto in so hard he's scared to use it on his rakes! He's had deere out to do something with it, but they don't have a fix.

SO, he's back to raking his hay with his old tried and true!

SR
 
   / 4707 #556  
Hey would you be able to ask your dealer what the tweak(s) are he is doing for the AC?

It would greatly help me out as I've got a 4710 that is absolutely miserable in the summer and haven't been able to get it in for warranty work yet - Pretty sure it has to do with airflow but haven't quite found the issue thus far - I've already done the one adjustment from I believe Bagwell Farm's youtube channel (I might be wrong on that one) where he adjusts the temperature probe in the coil a bit higher so the compressor cycles.

Eager to see if there is possibly something else I could be missing, especially anything that would be giving me about half the airflow compared to any other 4700 series on #4 fan position. (Initial dealer thought was loose duct-work but I pulled my liner down and they all seem to be sealed good so - thinking its either lower output blower motor than should be or perhaps even one of the really old ones but I've got a 2019 so it makes no sense why a 2016/2017 blower motor would be on it).

Thanks!
I still haven't gotten my tractor yet, but it did arrive at his dealership. It's a 2022 model, and when I asked him if he did the upgrade to the AC, he replied that it already has the new AC system. But it's also leaking, so he's fixing that and hopefully I'll have it next week.

There is a group on Facebook called "Massey Ferguson 4700 Global Tractors" that has a discussion about the AC system and the upgrade kit.

Here is a copy of what somebody said

"Enhancement kit for 4707 Standard cab….
#ACX3795510 $2165.00 Main Kit
ACT0079330 $143.00 Filter Hsg Template
ACT0079340 $128.00 A/C Unit Template
Should be the part numbers needed for the non-visio roof tractor. I remembered that you also have to evacuate the Freon from system beforehand and recharge afterwards."

In another thread about the AC system, they talk about the heat valve not shutting the coolant off to the heater. From what I understand, you have to turn off the valve so the hot water from the engine stops going into the heater. Here is a video link that one of the dealers made to show where it's at.


Link to the FB Group

 
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   / 4707 #557  
Yeah, if you don't shut that valve off, your A/C won't work very well.
 
   / 4707 #558  
Has anyone installed wireless cameras on their loader and rear facing? I keep hearing that you just need 12v power but I'm terrified of drilling into the roof of my tractor without some sort of guide.
 
   / 4707 #559  
I still haven't gotten my tractor yet, but it did arrive at his dealership. It's a 2022 model, and when I asked him if he did the upgrade to the AC, he replied that it already has the new AC system. But it's also leaking, so he's fixing that and hopefully I'll have it next week.

There is a group on Facebook called "Massey Ferguson 4700 Global Tractors" that has a discussion about the AC system and the upgrade kit.

Here is a copy of what somebody said

"Enhancement kit for 4707 Standard cab….
#ACX3795510 $2165.00 Main Kit
ACT0079330 $143.00 Filter Hsg Template
ACT0079340 $128.00 A/C Unit Template
Should be the part numbers needed for the non-visio roof tractor. I remembered that you also have to evacuate the Freon from system beforehand and recharge afterwards."

In another thread about the AC system, they talk about the heat valve not shutting the coolant off to the heater. From what I understand, you have to turn off the valve so the hot water from the engine stops going into the heater. Here is a video link that one of the dealers made to show where it's at.


Link to the FB Group


Thank you for getting the prices/numbers on that kit! Also, OUCH!

I got to make the decision for the few dozen hours out of the year where it doesn't keep up, if I spend that kind of money to upgrade or just suffer. That is quite the pricey upgrade.
 
   / 4707 #560  
I have mowed a couple days that it's been 98+ and have yet to turn my blower fan higher than 2. If the sun is shining in its definitely warmer in the cab but it's more than comfortable to me. I did cut off the factory heater valve and cap off the outside air intake so mine runs in full recirculate now. I've been trying to get my window tint guy lined up to do his thing but I have to be honest, that's just because I'm still that young and it looks cool. If it keeps the cab cooler then that's a bonus.
 

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