Need cattle advice

   / Need cattle advice #21  
I dont like the gamey taste of grass finished beef. Soon as I see “grass fed beef” on a menu (at extra cost) at a restaurant I kinda chuckle. If I want that I’ll pull some venison.
I like a marbled tender texture to a steak.
Send em to Heaven at about 20 months, the last 3-6 on a morning grain fed diet.
 
   / Need cattle advice #22  
if they drop CHOP em

I have mentioned my bull experience in a couple of other threads. I do not think I will have an intact bull beyond about 6 months old on the farm again.
!00% castrate them. I sold all my cattle last summer, don't want the tied down responsibility anymore and I can get my meat from one of my hay customers pretty cheap anyway. I have a nice band castrator and a couple boxes of bands in the barn, just in case I decide on getting any again, but that is doubtful.
 
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Thanks for all of the great information, all!
 
   / Need cattle advice #25  
I don't understand why anyone would even want a Long Horn. Here they would not even be accepted in most sale yards. Hard to handle in a crush, not as safe as polled cattle. We have agisted steers on our place and occasionally the owners bring in a bull when needed. If you just want them for meat then far simpler to just use steers. Far easier to manage.
Mike
 
   / Need cattle advice #26  
I don't understand why anyone would even want a Long Horn. Here they would not even be accepted in most sale yards. Hard to handle in a crush, not as safe as polled cattle. We have agisted steers on our place and occasionally the owners bring in a bull when needed. If you just want them for meat then far simpler to just use steers. Far easier to manage.
Mike
You are bringing fair points about the horns ... For us in Northern Ontario the Highland cattle are getting really popular since they withstand our harsh winter with ease...
 
   / Need cattle advice #27  
Interesting thread. My eventual goal is to have a few steers so we can raise our own beef. I have a few friends that do this that we've bought some of their meat from, so doing it ourselves seems to make sense once our fencing is done.

Something that I've read, but don't have any experience with, is that it takes 2 years for the steer to be at the ideal age for butchering. I forget the details, but it has something to do with marbling and quality of the meat when butchered. Is there any truth to this?

We where thinking that we would be 2 or three calves every year, and butcher the two year old's, every year.
 
   / Need cattle advice #28  
It depends on the diets and if you are growing your beef strictly for taste or fat content longer you wait the more expensive it gets per pound of beef .... if feed grain and hay your cattle is ready at 14-18 months of age. Steers on grass only will take 26-28 months to be butcher.

from the article below ...

''After three years of research and data collection, researchers at SRUC in Edinburgh concluded that 12 months is the best age to slaughter beef cattle. Usually, the cow raising period will last up to 24 months. However, the research results show that the extra farming time after 12 months will only reduce the profit of the farmers.''

 
   / Need cattle advice #29  
You are bringing fair points about the horns ... For us in Northern Ontario the Highland cattle are getting really popular since they withstand our harsh winter with ease...
You might try Belted Galloways; no horns, bred next door to the Scottish long horns, and marble very well on grass feed due to their double coat.
Interesting thread. My eventual goal is to have a few steers so we can raise our own beef. I have a few friends that do this that we've bought some of their meat from, so doing it ourselves seems to make sense once our fencing is done.

Something that I've read, but don't have any experience with, is that it takes 2 years for the steer to be at the ideal age for butchering. I forget the details, but it has something to do with marbling and quality of the meat when butchered. Is there any truth to this?

We where thinking that we would be 2 or three calves every year, and butcher the two year old's, every year.
Personally, I think that slaughtering by age is an accounting method. Breed, weaning times and methods, feeding methods, castration timing and methods, all influence the point which the bovine has sufficient marbling for the desired purpose. That purpose can vary whether you are trying for USDA prime, choice, or select, or lower. We do two years-ish due to our desire to have the cattle on green grass at slaughter, and we have a short "green grass" season here. The "ish" has to do with when the calves were born. For our cows, they bulk up considerably in that second year, so waiting puts more meat on the carcass.

For those considering small scale grass raising cattle, I strongly encourage you to consider Belted Galloways. They have a double coat that protects them from the elements better, and which means that they deposit much less fat under the skin. So, they marble up sooner on just grass. They do well on coarse forage, rather hardy, have no trouble in snow and rain, and are quite docile and easy to handle. Repeated taste tests put beef from belted galloways at the top of the lists, I suspect because of the better marbling. (Yes, I was skeptic at first, but I have now drunk the Koo-aid, and am a believer. We have been raising them for close to fifteen years, and have a waiting list of folks wanting to buy our beef. We have lost just one customer, who had to give up beef for health reasons.) We raise "low-line" Belted Galloways, which are shorter, 36-42" high at the shoulder, and our steers yield in range of 350-550lbs of closely trimmed beef after two to three weeks of hanging.

Just a suggestion...and quite possibly not the best choice in areas that get really hot for sustained periods of time. We max out at 100F, rarely. I know that the breed does well in the Midwest, but I don't know about say Texas, or Florida.

All the best,

Peter
 
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   / Need cattle advice #30  
20 months was ideal for us. Belted galloways and low line angus are great. Very docile and tasty butchered properly
 

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