Another confused first timer

[K5lwq]

What tasks will a 48HP, common rail, electronic controlled tractor perform that my 48HP Branson could not perform? Guess I do not know what "severely compromised performance" means.

 

[IndyJay]

My Kioti dealer offered me the use of his demonstrator when I was in the market a few years ago.

My case dealer invited me to the corporate proving grounds in Tomahawk, Wi for the day to test drive construction equipment when I was in the market for a CTL a year later.
Why wouldn’t one expect that?

Also, all engines have to meet the same emission standards. A Branson with a low pressure mechanical fuel system and no electronics will have severely compromised performance than a competitor with high pressure common rail and full electronic control.

Branson doesn’t have their own set of laws on combustion and emissions formation on a Diesel engine. They meet the regulations by compromising performance.

It is really is kind of funny if you think about it. Current practice would be like going to a car dealer and your test drive is limited to the parking lot. I test drove tractors at 7 different dealers, all were in a fairly limited space. I did get to see how well the tractors operated in tight spaces.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

It is really is kind of funny if you think about it. Current practice would be like going to a car dealer and your test drive is limited to the parking lot. I test drove tractors at 7 different dealers, all were in a fairly limited space. I did get to see how the tractors operated in tight spaces.

Exactly which doesn't make any sense. Well said.

 

[kenmac]

What tasks will a 48HP, common rail, electronic controlled tractor perform that my 48HP Branson could not perform? Guess I do not know what "severely compromised performance" means.

I guess it means more problems and maintenance .
You have to take your tractor to the dealer for repairs to the emission systems.
If I were buying new, it would be a branson with a non ECM

 

[rScotty]

We have County and State fairs here in the Fall. At least that was the case 20 years ago. Most all of the tractor dealers are there with their latest models and set up so you can give them a more extensive test.

That's one place to go if you want to do more of a test drive.

In fact, I was told that's why our M59 had about 30 hours on it when we first saw it..... it was just back from the State Fair.
rScotty

 

[LouNY]

Farm tractors (90 HP+) are often demo'd on the farm,
and I have seen smaller utility units brought out for a day two or more to see how well they fit the farms need

 

[rScotty]

Farm tractors (90 HP+) are often demo'd on the farm,
and I have seen smaller utility units brought out for a day two or more to see how well they fit the farms need

Yes,... when I was young a tractor demo at someone's place was an excuse for an adult daytime social event.

That may be ancient history now. And probably always was more likely on larger grain-growing farms than hay & pasture land. Or on homeowner size farms.
rScotty

 

[finn1]

What tasks will a 48HP, common rail, electronic controlled tractor perform that my 48HP Branson could not perform? Guess I do not know what "severely compromised performance" means.

For one, the common rail with pilot injection will start faster and clean up faster. It will be quieter and generate less smoke. It will also have better fuel economy, and higher torque rise.

Tractor manufacturers aren’t stupid, and neither are the engineering teams that design and develop the engines and powertrain.

Do you actually believe that 1960s technology is better than 2021 technology?

Do you live under a rock?

Have you ever operated a modern tractor or do you go by what you read from a few biased people on the internet.

Look at Branson’s website glorifying their obsolete technology. It reads like it was written by a twelve year old to anybody that’s designed engines for a living. Absolutely no technical content. Just barroom talk.

 

[Torvy]

or do you go by what you read from a few biased people on the internet.

I think I smell irony.

 

[K5lwq]

For one, the common rail with pilot injection will start faster and clean up faster. It will be quieter and generate less smoke. It will also have better fuel economy, and higher torque rise.

Tractor manufacturers aren’t stupid, and neither are the engineering teams that design and develop the engines and powertrain.

Do you actually believe that 1960s technology is better than 2021 technology?

Do you live under a rock?

Have you ever operated a modern tractor or do you go by what you read from a few biased people on the internet.

Look at Branson’s website glorifying their obsolete technology. It reads like it was written by a twelve year old to anybody that’s designed engines for a living. Absolutely no technical content. Just barroom talk.

Still did not answer what tasks can a common rail tractor do that mine won't.

As far as reading the internet for answers, I really did not do much of that at all. I went and tried many different brands and used my personal experience to determine what was right for me.

Spending most of my life in and around farming and performing all of my own service drove my decision. The Branson starts immediately with no issues even in cold weather.

I no longer need to plant 5000 acres of row crop and maintain the other 11,000 but enjoy doing what I do.

I have no problem with saying common rail systems are more efficient but it is not as much as some believe. It certainly is not worth the cost when something fails for me. I can diagnose and repair my tractors without any need for a dealer or computer.

But it also does not bother me at all that someone else likes having a ECM and common rail. I wish them the best.