How much tiller will 2310 handle?

[etpm]

Hi ALL,
I am thinking about buying a used tiller to hang off the 3ph. I will be using my YM2310. I don't have that much tilling to do so a narrow tiller would be OK. So, would a 4 foot wide tiller be too much for my little tractor? The ground I need to till is basically virgin ground so it is pretty hard. Ostensibly sandy loam but there is enough clay that it gets pretty hard. Once tilled, with some topsoil added, it will get easier of course.
Thanks,
Eric

 

[clemsonfor]

That tractor should run a 4ft tiller fine.

 

[California]

Hi ALL,
I am thinking about buying a used tiller to hang off the 3ph. I will be using my YM2310. I don't have that much tilling to do so a narrow tiller would be OK. So, would a 4 foot wide tiller be too much for my little tractor? The ground I need to till is basically virgin ground so it is pretty hard. Ostensibly sandy loam but there is enough clay that it gets pretty hard. Once tilled, with some topsoil added, it will get easier of course.
Thanks,
Eric

Can you first rip up the sod with the rippers on a box blade, or even a potato plow?

As Clemson said that tractor will easily run a 4 ft tiller. For comparison YM2000, a little smaller, had its own dedicated Yanmar tiller 53" 55.1", RS1400. But intended for rice paddy use, so those generally didn't need to break virgin sod.

Just go down in steps, not full depth in the first pass.

 

[CH4Ohio]

How wide are your back tires? That is, what's the width of your rear tire track. Just get a tiller that covers your rear tires. You'll be able to run it fine and you'll get the best results.

 

[Menagerie-Manor]

I'm headed into the same situation with my 2310 and have been keeping an eye out for a tiller but I intend to get a single Tine subsoiler/ripper for prepping the area first. Ground is just to compacted to attack with a tiller alone.

Titan has one I'm gonna order when back in stock.

20-In Subsoiler, Category 1, 3 Point Quick Hitch

Break through rough dirt using this 3 Point 20-inch Single Tine Ripper Subsoiler and pair it with the bolt-on Pipelayer to install drainage, irrigation pipes, or other underground hose or wires.

www.palletforks.com

 

[etpm]

Thanks everyone for those speedy and informative replies. Right now my wheels are set as wide as they can be. I don't really mind if the tiller is not as wide as the tires. I know that would be ideal but this tilling is just going to be a one time deal and I will go over any too compacted areas with the Troy-Bilt Horse. I'm gonna look into renting a tiller too but I'm pretty sure I won't be able to rent one where I live. I do have rippers on my box blade so I will do the ripping first. That was a good suggestion and I hadn't thought of it. I suppose I could do the ripping and then till with the Horse but my wrists are pretty shot, they are both bone on bone joints, and even the Horse makes 'em hurt a lot.
Thanks Again,
Eric

 

[CH4Ohio]

With all due respect, you asked "how much tiller will a YM2310 handle". Right?

Answer -- get one to cover your rear wheels.

But your response is that you'd like to use a smaller tiller for various reasons. So how much you can handle isn't really the question.

I don't agree about the subsoiler / ripper thing prior to tilling -- not at all necessary. Two different operations.

If you're planning to hook up a small tiller to the back of your tractor for a one-time job, just go for it.

I'm still curious -- exactly how wide are your back tires? The correct tiller is one that covers your tire tracks.

 

[bmaverick]

Hi ALL,
I am thinking about buying a used tiller to hang off the 3ph. I will be using my YM2310. I don't have that much tilling to do so a narrow tiller would be OK. So, would a 4 foot wide tiller be too much for my little tractor? The ground I need to till is basically virgin ground so it is pretty hard. Ostensibly sandy loam but there is enough clay that it gets pretty hard. Once tilled, with some topsoil added, it will get easier of course.
Thanks,
Eric

Eric,

Did you ever download the - - -

YANMAR YM2310 PARTS MANUAL NPC-1181.pdf

On page-5 it already tells you the maximum capability tillers to use with your model.

Here's a hint:

Oh, we can run this thru the Yandex image translator to English to get ...

 

[bmaverick]

Eric,

Did you ever download the - - -

YANMAR YM2310 PARTS MANUAL NPC-1181.pdf

On page-5 it already tells you the maximum capability tillers to use with your model.

Here's a hint:
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Oh, we can run this thru the Yandex image translator to English to get ...

View attachment 715946

Hey, I forgot to add the manuals for those 2 tillers in the last posting.

Here are the OE tillers made by Yanmar for your YM2310.

 

[etpm]

With all due respect, you asked "how much tiller will a YM2310 handle". Right?

Answer -- get one to cover your rear wheels.

But your response is that you'd like to use a smaller tiller for various reasons. So how much you can handle isn't really the question.

I don't agree about the subsoiler / ripper thing prior to tilling -- not at all necessary. Two different operations.

If you're planning to hook up a small tiller to the back of your tractor for a one-time job, just go for it.

I'm still curious -- exactly how wide are your back tires? The correct tiller is one that covers your tire tracks.

I would use a 5 foot wide tiller if the tractor could handle it and if the price was right for a used one. The rear wheel base is about 5 feet but I haven't measured it. If the tractor can only handle a 4 foot wide tiller I am willing to deal with driving over some of the tilled area. I didn't mean to imply I wanted to use a smaller tiller, just that I would be OK with it if necessary. So, if I was able to get a 5 foot wide tiller, you think ripping first is unnecessary? I'm all for just tilling if it will work and not damage my new to me tractor. My only other tractor experience is my Ford 9N that I bought about 20 years ago and have used the piss out of. I bought the Yanmar to replace the Ford. They work differently. I like the Ford. I REALLY like the Yanmar. I don't wanna break it. I'm so glad there is this resource for neophytes like myself.
Thanks,
Eric

 

[clemsonfor]

With all due respect, you asked "how much tiller will a YM2310 handle". Right?

Answer -- get one to cover your rear wheels.

But your response is that you'd like to use a smaller tiller for various reasons. So how much you can handle isn't really the question.

I don't agree about the subsoiler / ripper thing prior to tilling -- not at all necessary. Two different operations.

If you're planning to hook up a small tiller to the back of your tractor for a one-time job, just go for it.

I'm still curious -- exactly how wide are your back tires? The correct tiller is one that covers your tire tracks.

If you have ever tried to till hard compacted soil you would understand the ripping first. It beats the tiller to death and is very tough on it. You don't have to do it, it seems to help go deeper faster if it's been ripped prior. I have done both. 4ft is fine for the tractor, it probably even will turn a 5ft if your not trying to till concrete hard dirt.

 

[etpm]

Eric,

Did you ever download the - - -

YANMAR YM2310 PARTS MANUAL NPC-1181.pdf

On page-5 it already tells you the maximum capability tillers to use with your model.

Here's a hint:
View attachment 715944

Oh, we can run this thru the Yandex image translator to English to get ...

View attachment 715946

I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

 

[bmaverick]

I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

It would be really nice to get the OE Yanmar tillers over here. I know Ernie thought so too, but American people didn't think so.

Great about the bamboo. Years ago, I bought a few pairs of those EcoSocks that were a good percentage of bamboo. I never once worn any holes in the heels nor toe areas. Those held up the longest of all the socks I'd ever had.

 

[California]

The correct tiller is one that covers your tire tracks.

That's the elegant solution, doing it right. Looking professional. Needed if you are hiring your work for others. Or want to take pride in your garden.

He sounds like he just wants to tear it up once. (I expect he will later want to till in his soil amendments, too). Leaving tire tracks over tilled ground, to clean up later with his walk-behind tiller, should meet his needs. He might even be able to mount the tiller offset and not leave tire tracks at all.

I agree his tractor can run a tiller as wide as its tires. That's exactly what it was sold for in Japan.

Here's my Yanmar RS1400 tiller (1400mm, 55 inches) on my 24 hp YM240, the US version of the YM2000 that this tiller was explicitly intended for. When I got it home I made a short trial run, shallow, at 540 rpm then 1000 rpm. (It's designed for an even faster PTO, probably only for a final pass).

And the RS1400 tiller, 55 inches, on my 18 hp YM186D. The US version of YM1510. The little guy is really grunting to turn the tiller if it hits a step-up and has to climb from full depth onto un-tilled ground when cross-tilling. This compact rig fits under my orchard trees better.

Note I hadn't yet learned here in this picture, that the trainer wheels need the axle mounts on the outer side of the wheels. I had mounted the wheel assemblies smooth side out, to not gouge my trees. After swapping sides the wheels don't make ruts.

 

[bmaverick]

I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

Try these 2 image translator to text sites. The better the image characters are, the more reliable the translation.

Yandex

Finds everything

translate.yandex.com

https://translateimages.site

Both work with copy-n-past right off the web too.

If the 2nd site translates in the vertical columns in Japanese, there is an option to 'not join lines' when you hover over the boxes. This really helps a lot.

 

[bmaverick]

I did download it. Just to look at the parts in the exploded diagrams. I guess I need to sit down and translate all the pages and then print them. I had no idea the parts manual also had info about attachments. And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it? I know bamboo is. And I will be planting grass because the soon to be tilled area is a drainfield. Thanks, I love this forum.
Eric

BTW, for the Rice cultivation, that was when I pulled each character individually.
Together the sentence description stated, Wet Farmland Cultivation. Bing said it was Water Farmland Cultivation. It really depends on how the symbols are single, partly joined or all joined to pull the real meaning out of it.

Yes, I have had some really fun times translating a few of the manual sections on various forums for others.

On the F-FX Series machines, they have UFOs. We translated that here and got enough know how to make it function better for others with the setup. UFOs are dialed in 3PT controls for specialized functions. Even draft control too. For it's day, it was far superior than anything out on the market in Ag. Kubota couldn't even come close. Mitsubishi did take a good run at it too.

 

[California]

It would be really nice to get the OE Yanmar tillers over here. I know Ernie thought so too, but American people didn't think so.

The VN refurb importers - and Ernie, who imported good used Yanmars - assumed Americans wanted the tillers that had been on the refurb tractors forever. Nope. They didn't sell well here. Ernie said he took a load of salvage tillers to the dump.

Here's my tiller as found. The last green one, no pto shield. I told them I just wanted the cheapest one. "Ok, how about one with the tip missing off a single tine plus a set of new tines thrown in. $200?"

Oh H-- yes!

I never have replaced the tines. I can't see where there's any need.

 

[California]

... And about rice cultivation. Rice is a grass, isn't it?

Yes but its planted in muck. Here's first-pass prep.

I copied this photo from the official Yanmar-Japan website in about 2005.

It seems Yanmars are designed to tolerate driving half-submerged.

 

[careyo63]

RS1400 on a YM2000. Fredricks with new tines. Only one they had left at the time. It was recomended I better go get it!!........ That was in 09. The pic. is a small garden of my mothers. Done with a couple HP. walk behind previously. Rock hard Ga. Red clay for soil that wasn't a problem. Sold it quick on CL.. Gone in 2 days for my asking price. What I paid for it Yrs. before. After she Retired and moved back to WV.. Seen your Location. Cinn/Oh 60-70's for me. Hamilton Co.....

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[ponytug]

Do you have to break the soil up before rototilling? Of course not. But there are advantages. The chisel teeth will fracture the soil deeper than the tiller gets to and that helps with later root growth. It also helps the rototiller in later passes because the soil is already fractured, so you do fewer passes. There is such a thing as over tilling the soil. With both implements, don't over do it on a single pass.

If this is a one time thing, I would be tempted to do a few passes with the rippers on the box blade, level it and call it good. Especially if I had bone on bone joints.

However, if you plan on other rototilling, I would definitely get one. I loved our Troybuilt, but my current tractor mounted rototiller runs circles around it for ease, speed and effectiveness. The only reason I would keep the Troy built is if you have something really narrow that needs rototilling.

All the best,

Peter