Your towing rigs and trailers

[Gregster613]

gatorguy, I agree with two_bit_score. That is a very nice rig! Enjoy your new set-up.

 

[dodge man]

A couple of very nice rigs. Wish I could justify the need for a new 3/4 or 1 ton rig. Then I would be torn between diesel and gas and Ford and Dodge.

 

[aczlan]

I, too, doubt you’ll need airbags. How many leaf springs do you have, in the rear? On most pickups, they have three or four leaf springs. When you move to the C&C, you get nearly a dozen. It’s one of the biggest differences between a pickup and C&C. There are others, but not relevant to this discussion.

Compare apples to apples though, you can have more thinner leaves, or less thicker leaves.
Here is a 2011 F350 C&C:

Here is a 2020 F350 C&C:

Source: 2020 cab and chassis leaf springs - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
It all depends on the thickness of the leaves, the stiffness, etc.

If it’s anything like my truck, it rides much better, with a trailer on it.

As do most full size pickups.

Aaron Z

 

[nikerret]

Compare apples to apples though, you can have more thinner leaves, or less thicker leaves.
Here is a 2011 F350 C&C:
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Here is a 2020 F350 C&C:
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Source: 2020 cab and chassis leaf springs - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
It all depends on the thickness of the leaves, the stiffness, etc.


As do most full size pickups.

Aaron Z

True. I wonder if those are rated the same.

The springs on the 2020 C&C look thicker than what I’ve seen on pickups, from a couple years prior, but it could be the same. Hard to tell, in a picture with no scale.

 

[Bearsixty7]

True. I wonder if those are rated the same.

The springs on the 2020 C&C look thicker than what I’ve seen on pickups, from a couple years prior, but it could be the same. Hard to tell, in a picture with no scale.

They are thicker and a little longer. It's a way to reduce the amount of total steel needed, gives the load capacity and yet rides more like a car.

 

[MoMower]

Glamour shot? (Just kidding, it’s old and ugly @231k miles)

The loader is amazing, told him 4 tons, “light” per load). All 4 loads were between 3700# and 3800#.

 

[TheFarmerInAdell]

The loader is amazing, told him 4 tons, “light” per load). All 4 loads were between 3700# and 3800#.

It's amazing how good those guys are with estimating weight of sand and gravel as they load it into a trailer. I asked for 5 tons and he loaded me at 10100#. I guess that comes with time running those loaders.

 

[deezler]

Guys - don't the front loaders often have scales built into the loader boom nowadays? They know exactly how much they are lifting with each scoop. When you see them jostle that final scoop to get it "just right", its by watching a digital scale readout. Sometimes, anyway.

 

[nikerret]

It's amazing how good those guys are with estimating weight of sand and gravel as they load it into a trailer. I asked for 5 tons and he loaded me at 10100#. I guess that comes with time running those loaders.

Guys - don't the front loaders often have scales built into the loader boom nowadays? They know exactly how much they are lifting with each scoop. When you see them jostle that final scoop to get it "just right", its by watching a digital scale readout. Sometimes, anyway.

Some loaders have scales. Some loader operators are also just really good. Others suck and screw it up, even with a scale.

 

[TheFarmerInAdell]

In the past the operator had me wait on the truck scale to load me. The last time the operator (not sure if it was the same guy) just had me weigh in and out and filled my trailer in the pit. I'm guessing that the loader doesn't have the scale, unless they added one recently. I believe the built-in scales are just a pressure transducer on the hydraulic system with a read-out that calculates weight based on pressure to the rams (which can be retro-fitted to most machines).

 

[aczlan]

In the past the operator had me wait on the truck scale to load me. The last time the operator (not sure if it was the same guy) just had me weigh in and out and filled my trailer in the pit. I'm guessing that the loader doesn't have the scale, unless they added one recently. I believe the built-in scales are just a pressure transducer on the hydraulic system with a read-out that calculates weight based on pressure to the rams (which can be retro-fitted to most machines).

They will still have you weigh as the scales on the loaders are likely not certified for use in commerce like the truck scale is.

Aaron Z

 

[crashz]

Yes - the loader scales are based on the hydraulics. They boom and bucket have to be in a certain position to read. We have a scale on our Cat at work. Its amazingly accurate.

I know for a fact that all new Hyundai loaders have the scale system built into their software.

 

[MoMower]

I’m sure he has a scale, still takes skill. Huge Cat wheel loader at our local cement mill/quarry. Do still have to weigh in and out.

 

[nisaacs]

My new haul truck, pretty well equipped, '21 Ram, 2500 Tradesman. My first one in 30 years

 

[oliver1555]

My new haul truck, pretty well equipped, '21 Ram, 2500 Tradesman. My first one in 30 years

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Does your driver get to use this one?

 

[wmonroe]

My new haul truck, pretty well equipped, '21 Ram, 2500 Tradesman. My first one in 30 years

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Very nice!

 

[Bryan 45]

Second haul with my Gatormade 10K trailer.

Heading to the farm for the weekend for a little rec time with my 1967 M151a1.

 

[woody]

that's nice I miss my old 151A1 we use to ride in it a lot.

 

[4570Man]

 

[TYM 474 Owner]

I had a question about a trailer. Kinda in the market for a trailer (sometime 2021) and have used lots of different trailers from tandem deck overs to utility carts. Never used a gooseneck.

Needs pulling 9500lbs plus the trailer.

The trailer that’s got my attention is the drive over fender trailer because one tractor I have is over 90” wide on the rear. View attachment 672383

Most the tractors I have can fit inside 82”. I have a Mahindra 5555 with a 7ft bush hog so the total rig is over 25ft. I was thinking the mega style ramps so I could let stuff hang off the rear a little if it’s too long to fit on the trailer or I’d be buying a 30ft trailer lol. Sure-Trac (I’m sure others also) has what they call a universal ramp which isn’t as long as the mega ramps. View attachment 672384

So I was thinking 14k, 22ft drive over fenders (102” wide) with the shorter mega ramps and 2ft dove tail. Thoughts? Seems this trailer would not only be cheaper than a standard deck over, lower loading height would be a plus and it’s 1000lbs plus lighter than deck overs I have seen. That 22ft trailer would be around 3500lbs. Lighter trailer is easier on the truck.

I don’t really want to go goose neck because I wanted a more universal trailer that’s capable of hauling my biggest tractors the few times a year I take them to shows or pulls. The rest of the time a standard equipment trailer works just fine.

Thoughts? Good idea or waste of money? Feedback if you have a similar trailer I’m describing.

I have the 17,000 GVWR / 22 ft. Wood Tilt Equipment Trailer with Fixed Front Deck and love it.