THIS is how you handle porch thieves

[RalphVa]

We had a couple boxes opened. Guess they didn't like what they saw and didn't take anything. These were big boxes.

Found out there were some box thieves in the area. So, we bought a plastic box and put it outside our gate with signs on P.O. box to put deliveries in it and sign on the box itself. Works great. Out-of-sight-out-of-mind, it removes their temptation. Good place to put things for others to pick up, too.

 

[ultrarunner]

Neighbor is 101 today... quite a guy.

Birthday Cards scattered around neighborhood as they were pried out of mailbox...

I have a mailbox remote that came with the house... it signals and illuminates a light inside every time mailbox drop is opened...

Sometimes it goes off at one in the morning and sure enough someone had just opened it... motion activates lights too...

Box is strong but some are finding whole box taken... we are city but with roadside boxes...

Have important mail to Mom's as her drop is in garage door...

 

[Sigarms]

Neighbor is 101 today... quite a guy.

Birthday Cards scattered around neighborhood as they were pried out of mailbox...

I have a mailbox remote that came with the house... it signals and illuminates a light inside every time mailbox drop is opened...

Sometimes it goes off at one in the morning and sure enough someone had just opened it... motion activates lights too...

Box is strong but some are finding whole box taken... we are city but with roadside boxes...

Have important mail to Mom's as her drop is in garage door...

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you and every other good person needs to move far away.

Then what I would say may get this thread deleted.

You're area sounds more than depressing, and my fear is human nature being human nature, perhaps 500 years from now after I'm long gone, our area becomes like yours.

 

[ultrarunner]

Not meant to depress... only canary in the mine...

I've heard it said things half to get bad before better

Just when I think we are approaching rock bottom we are still dropping.

Never been one to cut and run and lord knows I have spent plenty of late nights at city council meetings...

Maybe I'm the eternal optimist?

In any event I'm here to help mom as long as it takes... roots go back 125 years...

 

[Citydude]

Not meant to depress... only canary in the mine...

I've heard it said things half to get bad before better

Just when I think we are approaching rock bottom we are still dropping.

Never been one to cut and run and lord knows I have spent plenty of late nights at city council meetings...

Maybe I'm the eternal optimist?

In any event I'm here to help mom as long as it takes... roots go back 125 years...

Your mom raised a good man. Be well and be safe.

 

[tradosaurus]

I don't disagree with you, but when I see a man with a gun who I don't know, and he's looking directly at me (particularly if I'm on his property without his permission), generally the first things that would never pop in my head are

1 - He would never shoot me because he doesn't want to deal with the legal issue.

2 - Debate the caliber of the handgun or rifle to determine if the caliber could actually kill me (we all know a .380 is useless).

3 - Wonder how much he paid for the gun because cheap guns can never shoot straight.

That is why I qualified my statement with "if it wasn't a life threatening event". The video used in this thread showed a woman stealing a package and the homeowner coming out and threatening the thief with a gun. Had the thief just kept walking to her car and he shot her this would be murder in the eyes of most prosecuting attorneys.

Don't get me wrong. I think a thief should be hung on the spot and left to rot as an example to others but that's not the society we live in.

Minneapolis homeowner convicted

 

[Hay Dude]

I think an enterprising person is going to invent a ”porch package vault” where packages can go into a reinforced steel box, but can’t come out with a key.
It will probably be offered by Amazon, if it already hasn’t been invented, and I‘m sure ol Jeff will laugh his way to the bank as the richest, most powerful man in history.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I do know one thing; if you use deadly force against someone, you best do your homework first. Under common law, it was always legal to shoot first and ask questions later if someone broke into your home, at night, when you were there. There was a legal presumption that they were there to do you harm. Different states vary widely in their castle doctrine, and most have been altered by statute.

There was a case here where a Pharmacist was being robbed at gunpoint; he shot both robbers. One, as I recall got out of the store and was captured later, the other one, who was disabled, he went back and delivered the coup de gras. He was tried and convicted, because the guy no longer posed a threat.

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[Sigarms]

I think an enterprising person is going to invent a ”porch package vault” where packages can go into a reinforced steel box, but can’t come out with a key.
It will probably be offered by Amazon, if it already hasn’t been invented, and I‘m sure ol Jeff will laugh his way to the bank as the richest, most powerful man in history.

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One thing I'm grateful for is we stuck to our guns (no pun inteneded) when my wife and I looked for a home together.

We wanted at least 10 acres, with the home NOT within a stones throw of the road.

With the gravel road, if anyone comes down our driveway, someone in the house will generally know along with the dogs.

What I don't get is that last video I posted, the thief was actually driving a somewhat nice, new looking car. I just don't get how people could intentionally steel from someone house without even know what their steeling to begin with (not that knowing what you're steeling makes a differene in being a theif LOL).

 

[Sigarms]

I do know one thing; if you use deadly force against someone, you best do your homework first. Under common law, it was always legal to shoot first and ask questions later if someone broke into your home, at night, when you were there. There was a legal presumption that they were there to do you harm. Different states vary widely in their castle doctrine, and most have been altered by statute.

There was a case here where a Pharmacist was being robbed at gunpoint; he shot both robbers. One, as I recall got out of the store and was captured later, the other one, who was disabled, he went back and delivered the coup de gras. He was tried and convicted, because the guy no longer posed a threat.

Oklahoma pharmacist convicted of murder moved to different prison

OKLAHOMA CITY (KFOR) – An Oklahoma pharmacist who was convicted of murder has now been moved to a different prison, according to online records. Jerome Ersland is serving a life sentence afte…

kfor.com

Robber was shot once in the head, then the guy defending the store left the store to go after the second robber. 45 seconds later the defender comes back into the store, then grabs another gun and then shoots the guy laying on the floor already shot once in the head another five times???

That was an execution IMO.

If the defended would of just loaded 5 more rounds into the guy on the floor after he was shot in the head, he would of had a better chance of arguing self defense IMO, and even then it could be iffy iffy.