Buying Advice 1025R, 2032R, maybe a 3039R. Input please.

[Hayseed Andy]

I am trying my best to nail down what would work best for me. Each time I think I have the answer, I think of something different. Here is my current situation. I have 10 acres in Central Florida. 8 are roamed by cattle and seldom need any cutting. Only when the owner of the cattle fertilized did I have to bush hog with a borrowed tractor. 2 acres are sectioned off for my house. I have a Z915B Zero Turn which does a great job and is fun to operate. There is a small dirt road for myself and my neighbors that could use some maintenance from time to time, however it isn't bad and some of the neighbors have equipment and maintain it. I would like to help out. In the back of my mind, and since I am close to retirement, I think about starting a small business with the tractor I end up with. I am also thinking about planting various fruits and perhaps a veggie garden and starting a mini farm with some animals.

I am debating between the 1025R, the 2032R and the 3039R with a deluxe cab. Here are my thoughts, and I would appreciate any input.

1025R is obviously the easiest on the budget. I believe it would accomplish what I need to it to do. Albeit at a slower pace. And I could see myself upgrading if I end up having to do anything beyond light work.

2032R has more weight and HP and very well may be the middle of the road between the 1025R and the 3039R. It would easily handle what I need done.

3039R with a cab (I wouldn't buy an open station 39R, I'd stay with the 2032R for that) would be all of the above and in comfort and style at the same time. Air conditioning and stereo, and I can't see having to upgrade. If anyone has any experience with the 3039R cab version, please chime in as to how the comfort level is, how the stereo sounds, etc. I don't expect it to ride like a Cadillac, of course.

Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[CobyRupert]

The comfort level, ride, and how the stereo sounds?....Uhm... sure you’re in the right place?
Personally, it’s the business end(s) that are my priority. Weight, horsepower, emissions, loader capacity, tire type, width (if hilly), number of SCV’s, 3 point hitch type (Class 0, 1, or 2) etc.. To each their own.
Joking aside, I don’t have any of those tractors. There’s a guy on youtube with a 1025r that puts out good videos and reviews. Also has a few 3320 and 3039r videos. Tractor Time with Tim - YouTube

 

[KennyG]

There is a big difference between the 1 series and the 2 series because of the wheel size difference. The 1 series has limited ground clearance and limited 3 point lift. Be sure to consider whether this will make a difference to you. To me, the 1 series is a lawn tractor with real tractor lift and loader capabilities. That might be all you need but if you already have a zero turn, I would want to go larger with the tractor. The cab issue is obviously a personal issue as to how OK you are with the weather.

 

[Wagtail]

The occasional uses that for what you need a tractor for would point me to the 2032R, especially when it comes to the availability of attachments/implements.

 

[jeff9366]

The occasional uses that for what you need a tractor for would point me to the 2032R, especially when it comes to the availability of attachments/implements.

A Second for the 2032R for two to five acres.

None of these three are robust enough to survive the difficult jobs commercial service bring.


John Deere 2032R

2013 - 2017 2R Series
Compact Utility tractor
Series back: John Deere 2025R

Manufacturer: John Deere
Factory: Augusta, Georgia, USA
Original price (USD)
$18,595 (2013 )
$19,339 (2014 )

John Deere 2032R Engine:
Yanmar 1.6L 3-cyl diesel
John Deere 2032R Power:
Engine (gross): 31.7 hp [23.6 kW]
Engine: 32 hp [23.9 kW]
PTO (claimed): 23.5 hp [17.5 kW]

Capacity:
Fuel: 7.1 gal [26.9 L]
Hydraulic system: 3.9 gal [14.8 L]
Front axle: 0.9 qts [0.9 L]

Transmission: hydrostatic (2-range)

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I
Control: position control
Rear lift (at ends): 1433 lbs [650 kg]
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 1250 lbs [567 kg]

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: independent
Clutch: wet disc
Rear RPM: 540
Mid PTO: independent
Mid RPM: 2100

Dimensions
Weight (shipping): 1973 lbs [894 kg]
Drawbar capacity: 562 lbs [254 kg]
Front axle load: 1940 lbs [879 kg]
Rear axle load: 2426 lbs [1100 kg]
Wheelbase: 65.2 inches [165 cm]
Length: 108.9 inches [276 cm]
Width: 47.1 inches [119 cm] (min)
55.6 inches [141 cm]
Height (hood): 53.3 inches [135 cm]
Height (ROPS): 89.7 inches [227 cm]
67.5 inches [171 cm] (folded)
Clearance (front axle): 13 inches [33 cm]

John Deere 2032R attachments:
mowing deck
snowblower
blade
front-end loader
backhoe

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x4 MFWD 4WD
Final drives: spur gear
Differential lock: standard
Steering: power
Brakes: wet disc
Cab: Two-post foldable ROPS.

Hydraulics:
Type: open center
Capacity: 3.9 gal [14.8 L]
Pressure: 2421 psi [166.9 bar]
Mid valves: 2
Pump flow: 5.0 gpm [18.9 lpm]
Total flow: 10.5 gpm [39.7 lpm]
Steering flow: 5.5 gpm [20.8 lpm]

Electrical:
Ground: negative
Charging system: alternator
Charging amps: 40
Charging volts: 12

Battery:
Number: 1
Cold-cranking amps: 500
Volts: 12

Page information:
Last update: September 16, 2016
Copyright: Copyright 2016 TractorData LLC
Contact: Peter@TractorData.com

 

[TyBoo]

Curious as to why you left 2025r off the list. Based on your other picks it would seem that it would fit the list better than the 1025r.

A couple years ago I sold my 3320 (needed boat motors!) and missed it more than I thought I would. Previously I had an older 855 and the 3320 seemed too large for my small place. Last summer I bought a 2025r with a loader, 4in1 bucket, backhoe, and tiller. Could not be happier.

 

[edawg]

If you can live without A/C in a factory cab, then 2032R. It's going to handle the peak jobs you may have long term, but it's still light/small enough to go where you need more than the Z-turn for mowing. And FWIW, I have a 2025R Gen 2 and it's a great machine for driveway work and the 120R loader lifts household loads of firewood, etc. nicely and moves all the farm waste, handles digging nicely (added a Heavyhitch toothbar which is awesome for adding utility to the loader). But it's too light for real farm groundwork (unless there's a lot of ballast on the tires / 3 point and even then it won't make ditches without multiple shallow passes). '

None of this addresses the cab factor of course... To get A/C for Florida temps, you're looking at 3039R to get factory A/C on a larger frame machine so no going on the lawn with it unless ground is dry. If the cab is essential, then I'd suggest you look at Kioti's line as they are embracing the small frame cab market more aggressively than Deere and you'd get a good idea how this compares to green. If you have a good dealer close for the long haul service, etc., Kioti makes a good machine and the SE trim line includes a lot of functionality with rear hydraulics, great FEL capacity and comfort features for the operator. I drove Kubota, Deere, Massey, Kioti and the CK3510 SE version with cab is a sweet machine. They now have a smaller 25hp version with AC (CK2510 SE that TTWT did a series on). Kioti durability and global parts supply chain aren't on par with Deere IMHO though, but how long will you REALLY keep a machine is the key question.

 

[Paystar]

A 2025R would do everything you listed at low cost. And no emission motor with DPF to worry about. I have the same size tractor (although different color) as a 2025R and I do more work on a bigger property than what you listed in your needs. Plus I do snow removal and landscaping jobs for other people on my road.

But if you don't mind spending the money I would buy the smallest model of the 3R with a cab for sure. I personally don't care for the 1 and 2 series JD's, but the 3 and up are really nice tractors. I wanted the previous series to the 3R back in 2013 when I bought, but I would have had to finance. So I went smaller with the cash I had at the time.
But that 3 series Deere would have been sweet too.....cab, still small and light enough to mow with.

 

[dodge man]

I agree look at a 2025r although a 2032r is quite a bit more tractor. A 2025r is similar to a 1025r but on a bigger chassis with more ground clearance and bigger tires. It all really depends on how much you want to spend.

 

[Hayseed Andy]

Thanks for the replies and advice so far everyone.

 

[GregE]

Have you considered a 3033R? I bought the cab version in 2016 and it's done everything I've needed. Granted mostly I mow or move snow. But this year we had a derecho, it was basically a CAT 3 inland hurricane. It did lots of tree damage. I ultimately bought a set of forks to help with the clean up. Granted it doesn't have the HP the 3039 has, but like I said, it has done everything I've needed and it was cheaper than the 3039R.

 

[Hayseed Andy]

I did give the 2025R some thought, however I figured I'd be better off sticking with the 1025R or going up to the 2032R if I opt for the open station. I also am giving the 3033R a lot of consideration in the cab category. The post above gives me an idea how impressive it is, as I saw several videos of the damage caused by the derecho last year. In other words, the typical budget versus creature feature conundrum.

Thanks again.

 

[edawg]

It comes down to priorities... Give each machine 1025R, 2032R, 3033R and 3039R a score of 1 (worst) to 4 (best) for the following...
- Cab importance
- Useful on the yard or no
- Heavy for dirt work
- Bushhogging around trees/low overhead situations
- Weight for driveway and other pulling work
- Price of tractor
- Price of attachments (4', 5', 6'?)
- I talked to my dealer and his opinion is...
- I drove them all and I love this one and just gotta have it! (Note: this item can have a score from 1 to infinity)

There's your answer!

 

[Blue Mule]

The lack of ground clearance and machine weight is what crossed the subcompacts off my list. So the 1025R would be a no-go for me.

So that takes you to the 2-series and if you get a 2032R or 2038R it's basically a 3-series frame size but with the 3E loader, front axle, and 3-point specs which are very light duty. So to me that crossed the 2-series off the list also.

So then you go to the 3-series, but the D and E models, again, have almost zero features and very weak specs/capabilities. So you almost have to go R. And a 3033R or 3039R are very pricey machines.

I just went through all of this myself a few weeks ago and I've been to two JD dealers and I brought home all the brochures. It's almost like JD has purposefully designed their lineup so that if you start shopping at the bottom you'll end up at the top before you're done.

 

[edawg]

@Blue... To clarify, the 2032R and 2038R come with the 220R loader that has quite respectable capacity. And 3 points that are also full Cat 1 and quite enough for Cat 1 (and 5' Cat 2) attachments.

You may be thinking of the 300E loader on the lower grade "E" Deere machines. That 300E loader is what actually places the Deere 30XXE series of machines practical uses on the FEL BELOW the 2032R and 2038R in terms of loader capability even if the frame sizes on 30XXE seem larger. Agreed, Deere plays the "extract value for capability" game well here. And a 2038R can do quite a lot of real work, though not a great machine for farming dirt work where weight is your friend.

3033R, 3039R and 3046R are all a big step up over 2032R/2038R in a common 320R loader capability and weight for 3 point dirt work and quite enough for "real farming". But Hayseed Andy needs to decide if the cab options on these is worth the extra green literally and figuratively! Where'd he go BTW?

 

[Hayseed Andy]

@Blue... To clarify, the 2032R and 2038R come with the 220R loader that has quite respectable capacity. And 3 points that are also full Cat 1 and quite enough for Cat 1 (and 5' Cat 2) attachments.

You may be thinking of the 300E loader on the lower grade "E" Deere machines. That 300E loader is what actually places the Deere 30XXE series of machines practical uses on the FEL BELOW the 2032R and 2038R in terms of loader capability even if the frame sizes on 30XXE seem larger. Agreed, Deere plays the "extract value for capability" game well here. And a 2038R can do quite a lot of real work, though not a great machine for farming dirt work where weight is your friend.

3033R, 3039R and 3046R are all a big step up over 2032R/2038R in a common 320R loader capability and weight for 3 point dirt work and quite enough for "real farming". But Hayseed Andy needs to decide if the cab options on these is worth the extra green literally and figuratively! Where'd he go BTW?

I'm still here. Still banging my head against the wall trying to make a decision I won't regret. I am sure the guy at the Deere dealer would like to strangle me, although he claims otherwise. It isn't ridiculously hot and humid yet here in Florida. So, right now the cab might seem less important to me. I probably wouldn't be singing the same tune come June. In a nutshell, I do believe the 1025R would do everything I need it to do. Just not as fast and with less comfort, but with a way better price tag. I think the 3039R would be overkill at first, however if I find other uses for it such as a side hustle (nothing extreme), I would be able to handle it without upgrading. Plus the creature features.

 

[dodge man]

After having owned a small compact, a Kubota BX, I would skip the 1 series JD and at least go 2025r. Bigger tires and chassis, better ground speed and my understanding is 2k or a little less in price increase. If you anticipate a lot of loader work I would for sure say 2032r if the budget allows.

 

[edawg]

I'm still here. Still banging my head against the wall trying to make a decision I won't regret. I am sure the guy at the Deere dealer would like to strangle me, although he claims otherwise. It isn't ridiculously hot and humid yet here in Florida. So, right now the cab might seem less important to me. I probably wouldn't be singing the same tune come June. In a nutshell, I do believe the 1025R would do everything I need it to do. Just not as fast and with less comfort, but with a way better price tag. I think the 3039R would be overkill at first, however if I find other uses for it such as a side hustle (nothing extreme), I would be able to handle it without upgrading. Plus the creature features.

Agree with dodge about the 2025R at minimum... I love my 2025R, and also thought I'd want a bigger machine, but it's easy to live with, does a lot of real work and fits everywhere I need to work through gates, etc.... Your comment about being OK with 1025R though points back to a 25hp machine and narrows down to a few quite nice cab equipped choices a lot less than the 3039R so you're happy long term... Go look at GP Outdoors on youtube... That LX2610 with cab and factory A/C sure seems a good way to go for an initial machine with options for future needs. Or go LX3310 to have some PTO breathing room for future needs... just expect to put in several $1000s more, but still less than 3039R. Really hard to part with yet another $5000 to $10,000 for a 3039R over an LX2610 cab for the marginal utility, further $ for larger PTO and 3pt attachments, paying for DPF/regen nuisance, etc. Just know you may have a wait for that LX to show up at your dealer. Or go check the Kioti CK2610 SE with cab (again if you can find one on a lot) for a heavier and bit wider/more stable machine (with R14 tires hopefully) with same hp but a bit more loader capacity and rear remotes standard (but a bit less resale value and a bit less dealer network in some regions). If you want a machine for this summer, better decide soon as all the pent up shoppers will come out the first warm spring day in droves.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

If you can live without A/C in a factory cab, then 2032R. It's going to handle the peak jobs you may have long term, but it's still light/small enough to go where you need more than the Z-turn for mowing. And FWIW, I have a 2025R Gen 2 and it's a great machine for driveway work and the 120R loader lifts household loads of firewood, etc. nicely and moves all the farm waste, handles digging nicely (added a Heavyhitch toothbar which is awesome for adding utility to the loader). But it's too light for real farm groundwork (unless there's a lot of ballast on the tires / 3 point and even then it won't make ditches without multiple shallow passes). '

None of this addresses the cab factor of course... To get A/C for Florida temps, you're looking at 3039R to get factory A/C on a larger frame machine so no going on the lawn with it unless ground is dry. If the cab is essential,

then I'd suggest you look at Kioti's line as they are embracing the small frame cab market more aggressively than Deere and you'd get a good idea how this compares to green.

That's interesting. I have taken notice of how the manufacturers with less market share will try to compete against the market leaders by targeting sectors of the market the big guys don't want to touch. HarleyBob on this thread here:https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/376851-new-land-pride-fm25-series-4.html was talking about the same thing.

If you have a good dealer close for the long haul service, etc., Kioti makes a good machine and the SE trim line includes a lot of functionality with rear hydraulics, great FEL capacity and comfort features for the operator. I drove Kubota, Deere, Massey, Kioti and the CK3510 SE version with cab is a sweet machine. They now have a smaller 25hp version with AC (CK2510 SE that TTWT did a series on).

Kioti durability and global parts supply chain aren't on par with Deere IMHO though, but how long will you REALLY keep a machine is the key question.

I have heard the same thing from other people about Kioti.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

I wanted the previous series to the 3R back in 2013 when I bought, but I would have had to finance. So I went smaller with the cash I had at the time.

Why? Did they not offer the zero percent financing at that time?