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tamersinger

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sanford, nc
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KUBOTA B2650 50HR JD X350 30HR
so we just demo'd a bx2380 with loader and mmm. we decided to keep our x350 for lawn duites and pick up a larger cut with loader for all our other tractor requirement. the bx was nice but lacks position control on the 3pt and was just not as capable as I thought it would be. (we have a lot of woods and I was afraid to take it through them without a skid plate)

I have a decent deere dealer the next town over and a kubota dealer in town whos sales staff must not be paid on commission (I have tried to buy 3 separate items from them) luckily there is a nice one in the big city and another in a town north of us.

ls is about an hour away and is a small setup.
I don't even know where a kioti dealer is around here
the mahindra dealer is more expensive than deere!

so the tractors I have been looking at are a 3025e deere and a b2650 kubota both used. I can't swing a new tractor my budget is 17000 otd

I have been looking at the ls mt225e which is gear driven but don't know anything about them and can't find much info on the net.(I also don't know how to drive a gear driven tractor shouldn't be difficult though)

needs:

we own a 2.5 acre lot right now mostly wooded. we have a lot of gravel areas for our garden and will be doing a larger food plot with a tiller soon. we have a 800' trail to the lake that needs to be cleared once and a while. between cutting in a new driveway and clearing a shop area in the back we have our work cut out for us.

I also have the idea of starting an llc with tractor for hire for bush hogging and what not. maybe some tree work as I have learned a lot with our property.

any thoughts?

I will eventually get a grapple setup as well.
 
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Gear driven is best for ground work, food plots, "Big AG". Hydrostat best for loader work, frequent direction changes, and frequent ground speed changes. You will need the 3rd function added to FEL for the grapple. The B2650 can have up to 3 rear remotes, wish I ordered them (have single remote) did not know about 'top and tilt' 3PT setups. You'll eventually want a box blade and the hydraulic top link makes this attachment truly functional. If you have rear wheels loaded it's better/safer for loader work. You may want something smaller for lawn work.

how to set up a box blade, the angle of the dangle! - YouTube
 

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Gear driven is best for ground work, food plots, "Big AG". Hydrostat best for loader work, frequent direction changes, and frequent ground speed changes. You will need the 3rd function added to FEL for the grapple. The B2650 can have up to 3 rear remotes, wish I ordered them (have single remote) did not know about 'top and tilt' 3PT setups. You'll eventually want a box blade and the hydraulic top link makes this attachment truly functional. If you have rear wheels loaded it's better/safer for loader work. You may want something smaller for lawn work.

how to set up a box blade, the angle of the dangle! - YouTube

I was going to add the 3rd function at a later date, doesn't look to complex to do and I am pretty handy.

5' box blade is on the want list. may try and negotiate that in.
 
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Kubota B2650 is 2,293 pounds, bare tractor weight. FEL lift capacity is 1,400 pounds, which is considerable on a 2,293 pound bare weight tractor.

Have the rear tires filled for stability. Buy a heavy Box Blade for Three Point Hitch counterbalance to max FEL lifts.

B2650 is ample for five acres. Ample, ample for 2.5 acres.


Not robust enough tractor for commercial jobs.
 
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Kubota B2650 is 2,293 pounds, bare tractor weight. FEL lift capacity is 1,400 pounds, which is considerable on a 2,293 pound bare weight tractor.

Have the rear tires filled for stability. Buy a heavy Box Blade for Three Point Hitch counterbalance to max FEL lifts.

B2650 is ample for five acres. Ample, ample for 2.5 acres.

Any thoughts on the b2650 vs the 3025e
 
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I'm very happy with my b2650 with a grapple and hydraulic top link. As Jeff says, it is not for commercial bush hogging. It's only a 26 hp tractor with 19 or so at the PTO.
 
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I'm very happy with my b2650 with a grapple and hydraulic top link. As Jeff says, it is not for commercial bush hogging. It's only a 26 hp tractor with 19 or so at the PTO.

that would be true of all the 25hp tractors though I believe.

this would more or less be a side job on the weekends.
 
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People do not usually summon tractors for easy jobs. Components of heavier tractors are made from thicker steels, therefore components are stronger. Heavier tractors have wider/thicker axles and larger wheels/tires, therefore heavier tractors are more stable on slopes and over rough ground. Few here would recommend planned commercial work with less than a Kubota MX spec tractor. (Snow removal an exception.)

You absolutely must have liability insurance when doing paid work for others.
 
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People do not usually summon tractors for easy jobs. Components of heavier tractors are made from thicker steels, therefore components are stronger. Heavier tractors have wider/thicker axles and larger wheels/tires, therefore heavier tractors are more stable on slopes and over rough ground. Few here would recommend planned commercial work with less than a Kubota MX spec tractor. (Snow removal an exception.)

You absolutely must have liability insurance when doing paid work for others.

I was planning on creating an llc and getting insurance before I posted a listing. again this would not be major work. just hobby stuff for weekends.
 
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My previous tractor was a 1998 Kubota L2900, it was a really good and dependable tractor. I bought it new and sold it with 500 hours on the clock, it was just too small for our ranch. My current tractor is a cab Deere 4720, great tractor. Either brand would be a good choice but the dealer can make a huge difference in owner satisfaction.
 
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My previous tractor was a 1998 Kubota L2900, it was a really good and dependable tractor. I bought it new and sold it with 500 hours on the clock, it was just too small for our ranch. My current tractor is a cab Deere 4720, great tractor. Either brand would be a good choice but the dealer can make a huge difference in owner satisfaction.

I am finding that at the moment most dealers appear to be swamped but i have always had problems with the local kubota. I wanted to email the manager but my wife said "just don't give them business"

the ls dealer over an hour away has been the most responsive so far. they also sell tym tractors and my neighbor across the street has one.

he is pushing the 264 which would probably work for my needs.
 
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They might let you demo the tractor to see if it meets your needs.
 
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What about a new B2301? It has position control, more ground clearance than a BX, runs a 60" mower just fine, and utilizes a loader with more lift capacity than a BX.
 
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What about a new B2301? It has position control, more ground clearance than a BX, runs a 60" mower just fine, and utilizes a loader with more lift capacity than a BX.

none of my dealers have a b2301,

I saw a deal for one on facebook marketplace with super low hours but the seller has ghosted me.

I am going to the ls dealer this weekend as he is the only one who is responding to emails.

looking at a tym t264 and a ls mt225e
 
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OK if unavailable in your area then not an option. Good luck in your search I'll be interested to see what you decide on.
 
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You should be able to get the LS225e for about $16K. There is a dealer in NC called Sanders motorcar who is advertising a 225e with a 20 ft trailer, 5 box blade, and 5 brush mower for $20K.

2;) Ls Tractor Mt2-25E Pkg. Deal Mt2-25E In Goldsboro NC - Sanders Motor Company

The MT225 will do all that you are wanting to do. I now have 160 hours on my current LS TLB, and 220 hours on my previous LS SCUT, not a problem with either and I have worked them hard. There is a lot of great info in the LS forum on here. You may be surprised at the bang for the buck with LS!

Good luck on your search and decision.
 
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If you want to compare weight (based on Jeff s suggestion) the LS weighs 2434 lbs bare tractor weight vs the B2650 at 2293 lbs. Add another 800 lbs for the LS loader. The loader lift on the LS is 1600 lbs, vs the 2650 at 1400 lbs.

Again, good luck on your search!
 
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I believe a JD 3025e is a bigger class than a Kubota B size tractor. It痴 probably equivalent to a L2501 in the Kubota lineup.
 
 
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