Blood Sugar and Cholesterol levels.

[CADplans]

My spouse worked in cardiac rehab for many years. People she seen had a heat attach, stroke or a clot someplace in there body it shouldn't have been and they all have something in common. They worked super hard. They were already in good shape and not over weight either. Whats wrong with this picture??? :thumbsup:

Stress is a VERY common cause of heart attack,,
When I worked for GE, we somehow found out some data about the retirement program,,

(IIRC, we managed to back-calculate it based on data about the retirement program)

on average, a GE retiree only received 13 pension checks (monthly),, and then they were gone,,

GE was a VERY high stress job,,

 

[CADplans]

. At 6'8" 245lbs and athletic, I'm listed as overweight or obese. It's important that we reject these liberal tools for classifying human behavior and habits.

There was a HUGE Australian study on men, weight and heart attacks.

Specifically, for men 60 to 70 years old, they found the lowest percentage of heart attacks occurred to men that were 10 to 15 pounds over the max "normal" BMI.

Those with normal and under,, as well as those men that were over normal BMI + 15 were found to have a MUCH higher percentage of heart attacks,,
I needed to pick a weight to shoot for (my doctor refused to specify a weight) ,, so I chose normal MAX BMI plus fifteen pounds,,

Right now, I need to loose 7 to 10 pounds to hit MY goal,, I have not been that light since the 1970's,,
I plan on hitting that weight in 1-2 months,,

 

[MechanicalGuy]

There was a HUGE Australian study on men, weight and heart attacks.

Specifically, for men 60 to 70 years old, they found the lowest percentage of heart attacks occurred to men that were 10 to 15 pounds over the max "normal" BMI.

Those with normal and under,, as well as those men that were over normal BMI + 15 were found to have a MUCH higher percentage of heart attacks,,
I needed to pick a weight to shoot for (my doctor refused to specify a weight) ,, so I chose normal MAX BMI plus fifteen pounds,,

Right now, I need to loose 7 to 10 pounds to hit MY goal,, I have not been that light since the 1970's,,
I plan on hitting that weight in 1-2 months,,

Can you link me up with that study I'd like to read it?

 

[Big Barn]

For some it may be best to skip BMI and scales. Best indicator would be an HONEST look at yourself in the mirror. Better yet take a selfie bare chested. Then make a decision.

 

[dmccarty]

Stress is a VERY common cause of heart attack,,
When I worked for GE, we somehow found out some data about the retirement program,,

(IIRC, we managed to back-calculate it based on data about the retirement program)

on average, a GE retiree only received 13 pension checks (monthly),, and then they were gone,,

GE was a VERY high stress job,,

Decades ago, well into last century when I was in school, I had a job dealing with retirement issues. Most retirees from the big company I was working for at the time, died within two years of retirement. I always put it down to the stress of leaving a company they loved, leaving coworkers who were family, and retiring from a company they respected and strongly identified with. Not issues I see being repeated today.

Later,
Dan

 

[Steppenwolfe]

And for what it's worth I am 6'8" and my waist is 38", and I definitely could lose an inch or two, but bmi is pure horsesh!t. Don't be suckered into subscribing to that tool of liberal ideology and populace control.

No kidding. When I got married at 23 I weighed 230 lbs and had a 33"waist and I'm just shy of 6'3". I was ripped and an athlete. But, according to some of these figures I was obese... OK. :confused2:

 

[OldMcDonald]

Is this a prank post!?!?

Of course it is not a prank post. You did not properly read my OP when you first replied. I asked a specific question and you immediately attacked porridge. It is generally acknowledged around the world that it is good to eat simple rolled oats either cooked or uncooked. Smothering them in sugar/honey/treacle/dried fruits is not good. Nor it seems is processing to make them 妬nstant? Another poster also condemns porridge so you are not alone, but definitely at odds with what appears to be the majority of the medical profession and those who treated me. I was most impressed with the number of different doctors who spoke to me (and others) during my four weeks in the two hospitals, particularly that they always seemed to have lots of time to speak to patients. Pre-op consultation, presumably for all patients, was with a team of 16 doctors and two nurses. I had a couple of fairly lengthy consultations regarding my diet within a few days of being admitted to hospital, including, so far back as I could recall, everything I had eaten and drunk at each meal prior to admission. No problems according to those who interviewed me.

My OP states that the head cardiologist told me I was not obese. Her decision, not mine. The second hospital, which did the surgery, made no mention of weight loss either. I carry a lot of muscle not as much as even semi-serious body builders, but quite a lot, and no doubt due to some weight training for about the last 60 years as well as consistent physical effort every day in my farming activities. One doctor made the comment that due to my muscularity I needed to be extra careful not to bring my chest muscles into use in the early stages of recuperation. My chest measurement is 50 and I have legs and arms to match. Weight on the scales and BMI, as others have already pointed out, make no allowance for muscularity. The winner of the Mr Olympia from 1992 to 1997, Dorian Yates, is 178cms, the same height as me (the reason I remember him so well) and weighed around 150 pounds more than me.

The written advice from the operating hospital is é„*void excessive consumption of alcohol? This is a wine growing country and wine with meals is normal, as it is around the rest of the Mediterranean. Doctors have no problem with this and undoubtedly they all have wine with their meals too. One has the parting remark ?.... and some red wine? I repeat that my discharge consultation included advice to keep my blood sugar and cholesterol levels down on the basis that if there was any long term future problem it would probably arise only from high levels of either. It is sensible to follow that advice. I merely asked for the personal experience of other TBN members, but have been inundated instead with people telling me I have to change my diet and lose weight this is contrary to what the specialist medics who treated me have said.

Perhaps best if you all forget I asked.

 

[OldMcDonald]

:thumbsup:

Since the OP just wants to know about supplements/food to ADD my suggestion to him would be to get it from research studies.

Thanks. This what we do. I had hoped for some personal experience responses to my question, but it seems that is not going to happen. Thanks also for the link. I have had a quick look and will follow it through in more detail.

 

[Big Barn]

Regardless, I wish you well with your recovery and rehab.

 

[AllByteNoBark]

Not for everyone but I eat KETO. When I started I dropped 30 pounds and am now 188-190 and 6' 3" tall. I'm diabetic and blood sugars dropped tremendously with no medication. Walk at least two miles daily and do physical work as I have time as my regular job is a desk job. Part of the reason we own an acreage. As a diabetic if I eat what the dietitians tell me to my blood sugar is really high. KETO works for me but is for sure not for everyone as your body runs on fat instead of carbs. Some doctors really do not like it and think it is horrible. My doc is good with my diet and it has been good to me so far. I do not have cravings like I used to before KETO. However, I do miss ice cream.