txdon
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Heart disease is a food related disease. To stop the progression you need a whole food plant based diet with no added oils.
Blood Sugar and Cholesterol levels.
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Egon
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Genetics don’t count?
txdon
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Egon, At this stage Old MacDonald has heart disease and his primary concern is a dietary cure, not the debate if his diet or his hereditary played a bigger part in his blocked arteries.
txdon
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Also Egon, it was not my original thought or opinion that heart disease is food related. Since my heart disease has been and is being closely monitored in a 10 year study along with 1200 others I now agree with
Dr. Kim Allan Williams, MD, FACC, FASNC, FAHA
President, American College of Cardiology (2015)
Chief of Cardiology, Rush University in Chicago
Dr Kim Williams: exposes the true cause of Heart Disease - YouTube
In 2015 to learn more I went to one of his conferences in Chicago where there were a hundred Cardiologist they all agreed with him. It was a conference for health professionals and I was able to get in by . . . that's another story.
Dr. Kim Allan Williams, MD, FACC, FASNC, FAHA
President, American College of Cardiology (2015)
Chief of Cardiology, Rush University in Chicago
Dr Kim Williams: exposes the true cause of Heart Disease - YouTube
In 2015 to learn more I went to one of his conferences in Chicago where there were a hundred Cardiologist they all agreed with him. It was a conference for health professionals and I was able to get in by . . . that's another story.
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OldMcDonald
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Thanks for the responses. Unfortunately nobody has addressed the purpose of the OP. I am not seeking dietary advice. There is a plethora of information on the internet regarding good practice for both cholesterol and blood sugar control. There are a huge number of government, diabetes organisations and other sources from all over the world with websites and articles specifically relating to diabetes and cholesterol. On the whole they all agree, the exception being the various keto diets, which appear to be yet another “fad” idea very similar to Paleo and Atkins diets.
The reason for the OP, and as stated therein, was to enquire whether any member had suggestions for adding something (similar to the addition of cinnamon to my porridge) that had assisted them to lower either or both blood sugar and cholesterol levels. The question still stands.
A few comments on some suggestions:-
I do not need to lose weight. I have shorts and trousers bought decades ago with a 38” waist and that I still wear. The suggestion from the heart specialist at my discharge consultation was that I keep the sugar and cholesterol levels down because any long term future problems would most likely be due to either becoming diabetic or cholesterol increasing. If I kept them in check there was no reason to think I would ever have a repeat problem. I am not on any medication relating to blood sugar, but, reluctantly, I am currently on a course to help lower cholesterol. A major aim is to cease this medication. I was told the partial artery blockages were calcium and a normal ageing process expectation, nothing to do with my diet.
One to two glasses of dry red wine with dinner (about 125ml/4 US ounces per glass) is not only considered to be not a problem, it is recommended by many in the medical profession. I am presently not allowed to do anything very much by way of exercise, only short gentle walks. These are somewhat restricted due to the fact that I have four rather large cuts on one leg where they removed some vein to perform the artery bypasses. I am not allowed to lift more than one kilo (2+ pounds) and am not to raise my arms above my head, nor am I to drive. I have another month of these restrictions before I can begin to return to my normal 40 hours or thereabouts a week of physical exercise, which ranges from light to strenuous as I do my daily work around the farm. My three meals a day are normally taken about 9 a.m., 2 p.m. and 7.30 to 8 p.m. so there is a natural fasting period broken with “break fast”.
We do not eat any pre-prepared foods. The only processed food is the occasional slice of bacon or ham. We have always had a low salt, low sugar and high fibre diet. My wife does not add any salt or sugar to meals she prepares, but of course there are some naturally in foods. The only oil she ever uses is our own extra virgin olive oil. I do not drink any soft drinks. The reason I mentioned my wife being trained in nutrition was not to claim she was an expert nutritionist, but to show that she understood about dietary requirements in general and the contents of purchased groceries. It is indeed a long time since she trained, but her knowledge is up to date, and has been refreshed over the last few weeks as she has sought sources of information to assist her when I returned home. As stated, there is a lot of info out there.
The porridge I have for breakfast is simply rolled whole oats with nothing added. As mentioned in the OP I now add cinnamon as I have seen several references to it being useful in relation to lowering sugar levels. On that note, my readings in hospital were as high as 274 with many in the 230 to 260 range. I was an inpatient for 4 weeks and tested up to 3 times a day. Anything over 200 warranted an insulin shot. Since returning home and porridge every morning, I have never reached 200. Porridge is also widely recommended for general heart health and cholesterol lowering.
The reason for the OP, and as stated therein, was to enquire whether any member had suggestions for adding something (similar to the addition of cinnamon to my porridge) that had assisted them to lower either or both blood sugar and cholesterol levels. The question still stands.
A few comments on some suggestions:-
I do not need to lose weight. I have shorts and trousers bought decades ago with a 38” waist and that I still wear. The suggestion from the heart specialist at my discharge consultation was that I keep the sugar and cholesterol levels down because any long term future problems would most likely be due to either becoming diabetic or cholesterol increasing. If I kept them in check there was no reason to think I would ever have a repeat problem. I am not on any medication relating to blood sugar, but, reluctantly, I am currently on a course to help lower cholesterol. A major aim is to cease this medication. I was told the partial artery blockages were calcium and a normal ageing process expectation, nothing to do with my diet.
One to two glasses of dry red wine with dinner (about 125ml/4 US ounces per glass) is not only considered to be not a problem, it is recommended by many in the medical profession. I am presently not allowed to do anything very much by way of exercise, only short gentle walks. These are somewhat restricted due to the fact that I have four rather large cuts on one leg where they removed some vein to perform the artery bypasses. I am not allowed to lift more than one kilo (2+ pounds) and am not to raise my arms above my head, nor am I to drive. I have another month of these restrictions before I can begin to return to my normal 40 hours or thereabouts a week of physical exercise, which ranges from light to strenuous as I do my daily work around the farm. My three meals a day are normally taken about 9 a.m., 2 p.m. and 7.30 to 8 p.m. so there is a natural fasting period broken with “break fast”.
We do not eat any pre-prepared foods. The only processed food is the occasional slice of bacon or ham. We have always had a low salt, low sugar and high fibre diet. My wife does not add any salt or sugar to meals she prepares, but of course there are some naturally in foods. The only oil she ever uses is our own extra virgin olive oil. I do not drink any soft drinks. The reason I mentioned my wife being trained in nutrition was not to claim she was an expert nutritionist, but to show that she understood about dietary requirements in general and the contents of purchased groceries. It is indeed a long time since she trained, but her knowledge is up to date, and has been refreshed over the last few weeks as she has sought sources of information to assist her when I returned home. As stated, there is a lot of info out there.
The porridge I have for breakfast is simply rolled whole oats with nothing added. As mentioned in the OP I now add cinnamon as I have seen several references to it being useful in relation to lowering sugar levels. On that note, my readings in hospital were as high as 274 with many in the 230 to 260 range. I was an inpatient for 4 weeks and tested up to 3 times a day. Anything over 200 warranted an insulin shot. Since returning home and porridge every morning, I have never reached 200. Porridge is also widely recommended for general heart health and cholesterol lowering.
Bird
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Yesterday, my doctor said my heart rate, heart sound, blood pressure, etc. everything in the blood tests came back good, EXCEPT for the cholesterol being a bit high. I don't recall EVER having a blood test without that same result.:laughing: Now I'm having my third cup of coffee, then I've gotta go fry up some bacon.
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A 6'1" 50 yo friend weighed in at 236 with high BP and Chloresteral and blood sugar. He was high on the obese scale on the chart. I thought he was normal actually.
Over a two year period until last week he lost down to 175 which is right at normal on the chart. All the readings came down to normal.
He did it by basic fasting and watching what he ate, no doubt. He would skip breakfast, most of the time skip dinner except a handful of veggies and then go light at supper. He would just have water and coffee to keep hunger pains away for up to 18 hrs at a time.
He made a line line graph chart so see progress for more incentive.
I started trying that last week but is difficult when the wife is a cooker and thinks I need 3 squares a day, plus snacks before bed.
RNeumann
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Paragraph 1....I don’t want dietary advise
Paragraph 2.....I’m looking for ways to lower my blood sugar and cholesterol
Is this a prank post!?!?
DMax82
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I eat a cup of oats every morning. To that I add a cup of frozen berries, a teaspoon of cinnamon, and a tablespoon of either flaxseed, hemp seeds, or chia seeds. The berries are nice because they very quickly cool down the hot oatmeal and really sweeten it.
On a side note, I am four months into a whole food plant based diet. Results are mixed, but I have not been as diligent as I need to be.
On a side note, I am four months into a whole food plant based diet. Results are mixed, but I have not been as diligent as I need to be.
