Barn sticker shock. WOW!

[cat fever]

I am looking at several different options. Red iron steel , some of the pole barn kits.( i would hire the work out. ). Trying to see where i can shave the cost down.

I am looking at options for a new barn. I talked to a guy that said he could build me a red steel building cheaper than a wood pole barn. I have not looked into all the details yet, but it is worth looking into.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Just going to follow this for interests sake....

In 2005 I started a 28 x 30 x 10 attached to a 32 x 30 x 12 building with one 60' wall. I scrounged rafters and built about seven of each size to get the length of building I wanted. Hence the two different widths. I paid regular price for all my lumber as I didn't have time to look for sales. I bought a semi load of random length 4 x 6 black treated posts and installed them on 4' centers. ($500) Hence the two different heights. I bought 2600 sq. feet of random length tin from a friend of mine that he got on sale. ($600)

I had help with half the rafters and half the roof tin. The rest I built all by myself. The walls are a layer of tar paper under house wrap covered in a board and batten style rough cut 1 x 4. All in all I have about $7500 + labor into the building. I still need to build a door which will be about a $1000.

I will be into 1800 square feet for around $5/square foot. I realize that not everyone has my skill sets etc but if I can do it I would say that just about anyone else can too. My building didn't go up quick. I spent about ten years off and on and I still need to build the door.

 

[cat fever]

Just going to follow this for interests sake....

In 2005 I started a 28 x 30 x 10 attached to a 32 x 30 x 12 building with one 60' wall. I scrounged rafters and built about seven of each size to get the length of building I wanted. Hence the two different widths. I paid regular price for all my lumber as I didn't have time to look for sales. I bought a semi load of random length 4 x 6 black treated posts and installed them on 4' centers. ($500) Hence the two different heights. I bought 2600 sq. feet of random length tin from a friend of mine that he got on sale. ($600)

I had help with half the rafters and half the roof tin. The rest I built all by myself. The walls are a layer of tar paper under house wrap covered in a board and batten style rough cut 1 x 4. All in all I have about $7500 + labor into the building. I still need to build a door which will be about a $1000.





I think the key is looking at something you want to build so you have an idea of how to do it. Many out there can't see the end product so they don't know where to start. Before building my barn I looked closely at how my brother built his pole barn. I thought " I can do that". I built a detached garage 36x36 a hay barn 21x36 then the barn 57x72 they are all built from the same basic pattern, never had plans for any of them. Trust me I'm no framer, just a backyard hack. They all worked out very well for their intended purposes.

 

[MacLawn]

Ethyl, I'm coming to join you honey! I'll be the one riding my tractor because I didn't have a barn to put it in.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Has anyone been checking the prices of buildings like the Steelmaster?

Steel Buildings, Metal Buildings, Garages, Storage Buildings

Ruffdog, I could be happy with some of their buildings, but my wife would not. And then i would not be happy either. Whatever i end up doing, you can be certain that my wife’s opinions will add at least $10,000 to the cost.

 

[cat fever]

WCD,
It's the opposite with me and my bride. Anytime I help with decisions it'll cost more.

 

[EddieWalker]

I started reaching out last week to a few builders in my state to get a quote on a 40 x 60 or a 40 x 80 pole barn. I am still looking around and talking to people but it seems that in my county there really are no buildings. So the builders are going to have to come from at least 60 miles away. I just got the first quote for a 40 x 60 with some windows, two man doors, and a 14 foot rollup door. This building would have 16 foot walls metal siding metal roof and that was it. It would have a cement floor. With those simple requirements he said 70s. I would be in the 70s probably upper 70s. He said the cement work would be about 16,000. That makes sense to me it痴 not too far off of what I figured since I just had my foundation for my house put in last year. I am flabbergasted. That is $30 a square foot. There is just no way. Absolutely no way on gods green earth that I would pay $75,000 for a 2400 square foot cement floor barn

I like metal buildings, but I'm not a fan of what they cost. I'm going to build my barn out of wood just like a house, but bigger. Stick frame, wood trusses, OSB sheething and Hardie lap siding on the walls. The only metal will be on the roof.

Muellers is a local metal building company and where I buy me metal for my roofs. They have kits that they sell for what seems like a reasonable price.

Standard Series - Big Barn XL - 4' x 6' x 16' - Mueller, Inc

 

[fried1765]

I like metal buildings, but I'm not a fan of what they cost. I'm going to build my barn out of wood just like a house, but bigger. Stick frame, wood trusses, OSB sheething and Hardie lap siding on the walls. The only metal will be on the roof.

Muellers is a local metal building company and where I buy me metal for my roofs. They have kits that they sell for what seems like a reasonable price.

Standard Series - Big Barn XL - 4' x 6' x 16' - Mueller, Inc

That Muller very low pitch would certainly not take much of a snow load, but I do understand, you are in Texas.

How is Oscar?

 

[Industrial Toys]

I have almost no pitch on my shed roof in a high snow environment. They just calculate the trusses and spacing accordingly. Then I told them to make it stronger still.

My inspector was a really "by the book" kind of guy. Needed engineering drawings, unlike the sketch on a napkin guy before him.

 

[EddieWalker]

That Muller very low pitch would certainly not take much of a snow load, but I do understand, you are in Texas.

How is Oscar?

I wasn't suggesting that he buy the kit from Mueller, just showing what the price of the kit is here, so he could do his own research, and determine if he's paying too much for the building that he is looking at in his part of the country.

Something else to remember when buying metal buildings is that there are a lot of third party companies that are just salesman for other companies that actually make the buildings. Mueller, the local company that I provided the link to does all their manufacturing. I've read some horror stories about people buying a metal building, and there where issues with what they got, and the could never get the correct parts, or missing materials. The salesman just gave them a lot of excuses. If you are buying a metal building, avoid the salesman companies and deal directly with the company that actually builds the kits.



Oscar is great. He's out and about in the mornings when it's cool and asleep all day until feeding time. Then back to sleep!!!

 

[zzvyb6]

There's a really simple answer to this issue: Buy an ax and hatchet at a garage or estate sale for a few bucks. Chop down some trees on your property and hack out some beams, poles and siding. Pin it together with help from some neighbors or family and stand back to admire your work. Should only take a few months. Besides saving your gold coins, a lard filled body will be replaced by steel, muscle and a few calluses.

 

[ruffdog]

There's a really simple answer to this issue: Buy an ax and hatchet at a garage or estate sale for a few bucks. Chop down some trees on your property and hack out some beams, poles and siding. Pin it together with help from some neighbors or family and stand back to admire your work. Should only take a few months. Besides saving your gold coins, a lard filled body will be replaced by steel, muscle and a few calluses.

I still love to watch the PBS special on Richard Proenneke and how he built a cabin and lived in Alaska.

Richard Proenneke - Wikipedia

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I still love to watch the PBS special on Richard Proenneke and how he built a cabin and lived in Alaska.

Richard Proenneke - Wikipedia

I have to agree. His story is one of my favorites.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I am starting to lean toward steel. I will probably build it myself. Doesn't look that hard to me. I'm gonna have to buy an extra camera to capture more than one angle . I think I will try to video it from beginning to end and edit together something that answers other people's questions.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw3nLHwmDFcldYwroZ3XsLH2&cshid=1555117266631

Stoneburner in harrisonburg built my FIL barn.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I remember someone in VA had an amish crew come from ohio to build their pole barn.

My 30 x 48 x 12 barn kit cost around $10k in material, from apm in PA.

APM Buildings

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I made that one too big to read it all.


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I would check around wherever you see a recently built barn and stop in for more names. Amish or Mennonite folks have these dialed right in in terms of efficiency, ie cost.

If i hadn't built my own, PPB pioneer gave me the best price to get one built. They build all over my area in MD.

 

[ovrszd]

These discussions only confuse the seeker of information. No one, absolutely no one tells the full story.

To get a cost comparison the inquirer needs to offer a detailed des ription of their intended building. Including number of lights, plug ins etc. Then someone with that buildings responds with their true cost. Then the seeker of information has a true comparison to go forward with. All other offerings of "I paid this, I paid that" for my building then are realized as meaningless discussion.

Course then all those guys start getting defensive and offer the "correct" course of action. Which is meaningless because they are talking about a "different" building.

So maybe a more detailed description of what building we are talking about?

 

[WoodChuckDad]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw3nLHwmDFcldYwroZ3XsLH2&cshid=1555117266631

Stoneburner in harrisonburg built my FIL barn.

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I saw a fantastic barn that Stoneburner built. I talked to someone from there more than a week ago. They were supposed to call me back. I still have not heard. Maybe this coming week.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

These discussions only confuse the seeker of information. No one, absolutely no one tells the full story.

To get a cost comparison the inquirer needs to offer a detailed des ription of their intended building. Including number of lights, plug ins etc. Then someone with that buildings responds with their true cost. Then the seeker of information has a true comparison to go forward with. All other offerings of "I paid this, I paid that" for my building then are realized as meaningless discussion.

Course then all those guys start getting defensive and offer the "correct" course of action. Which is meaningless because they are talking about a "different" building.

So maybe a more detailed description of what building we are talking about?

Go back read post 1. WCD gave a description of what the price covered.

Wasnt much more than 10 yrs ago a friend had a 40 x 100 x 16 built, concrete floor, electric in the $20 -$30k range. Then his wife fooled around, and she now has it... It was built by PPB listed in a response above. Course he was also the mining engineer at the local portland cement factory, maybe he got a really good deal on concrete.

I kind of know the area where WCD is, his area will command a higher price, too close to yuppieville.