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[woodlandfarms]

I don't want to side track this conversation as I am very interested in his process, but Ultra you and I are in somewhat temperate (30 degrees is the coldest we generally get at night in the winter, generally 40 or so). Not sure if Radiant would be effective given the costs... Its a real headscracther.

 

[ovrszd]

I don't want to side track this conversation as I am very interested in his process, but Ultra you and I are in somewhat temperate (30 degrees is the coldest we generally get at night in the winter, generally 40 or so). Not sure if Radiant would be effective given the costs... Its a real headscracther.

I agree hydronic radiant floor heat is most effective in colder climates.

 

[ultrarunner]

The ironic thing is the radiant floor heat is in Oakland CA with the most even and temperate climate of any major metro...

In Washington and can get to single digits on occasion... but where I am if it happens to snow it is gone by noon the next day...

Lots of radiant heat in Austria... most of the schools are radiant heat... even factories have it...

Depending on time of year in Austria it can be quite humid... radiant heat under a tile bathroom floor is very nice... also radiant heat town rack/warmers...

Sold quite a few to Americans visiting... they loved having a warm towel and it is an easy way to elevate bathroom temp...

Not sure if I will try to turn on the hydronic in Oakland... I tend to like cool and work best in the 50 to mid 60 range...

 

[EddieWalker]

Eddie. Here in the PNW our buildings are subjected to a lot of rain before getting enclosed. For a litttle she shed I am building for the wife I chose Plywood due to bad experience with OSB in the rain before (1996 OSB). Has it changed enough to withstand prolonged exposure to rain (2 weeks worse case?) The plywoood we got wasn't that great this time around, seems like wood just isn't what it used to be. Also, would you consider OSB for inside wall paneling for a shop?

Both plywood and OSB are going to have their issues if enough rain gets to them. For more money, there is nothing that compares to Zip Siding if you are going to put something over it for exterior siding. If you are just building a shed, you might want to look into Smart Siding. Both are very high grades of OSB. They are denser, heavier and they cut smoother. Once you've worked with both, it's very obvious how much better quality they are.

Smart siding is kind of like T1-11 in appearance and function. The long edge has an overlap for a clean seam, but the finish side with the wood grain is a kind of hard plastic something or other that looks like wood, but isn't. Paint sticks to it forever unlike T1-11 plywood. You don't put anything under it, you just attach it right to the studs and you are done.

If you are going to do something like Hardie Lap siding, or just about anything else that you will be covering your sheathing, but it's not going to happen quickly, then Zip System has a special coating on it that keeps the wind and water out. It also comes in different lengths. 4x8, 4x9, 4x10 and 4x12 are all sizes that I've bought and used. You tape the edges with their Zip Tape and that makes the entire area water tight. The reason I use it is that I'm slowly redoing the exterior of my house one wall at a time. Since you tape the edges, there is no stress of what will happen if there is a storm. Once it's up and taped, nothing is getting past it. Then when I have time, I install the Hardie. The side of the house where I'm building my Akita Pool and new porch has had the Zip System up for several months and will hopefully get covered in Hardie before the end of the year, but if that doesn't happen, I'm not worried about it. The other side of my house, where I've added on to my house 12 feet has had the Zip System exposed for three years now. Might be another three years before I'm ready to finally cover it up.

 

[JHurt]

No updates from yesterday. Mostly because it’s completely dark when I get home from work now. Don’t get me started on that! It rained most of yesterday so I’m not for sure if they did anything anyway.

 

[ovrszd]

My concrete guys worked til noon then gave it up.

 

[JHurt]

Looks like they are getting the apron ready, and have been working on electrical stuff.

 

[JHurt]

Put a little metal on the north side yesterday!

 

[EddieWalker]

Is there any reason that the windows are not sealed?

On a house, the biggest challenge has been to get a good seal around the edge of the window so that air does not get into the house. There have been a lot of ways to do this, and it seems to be an evolving issue that is always changing. The latest, most common method is to use flashing tape to get an air tight seal.

 

[JHurt]

Is there any reason that the windows are not sealed?

On a house, the biggest challenge has been to get a good seal around the edge of the window so that air does not get into the house. There have been a lot of ways to do this, and it seems to be an evolving issue that is always changing. The latest, most common method is to use flashing tape to get an air tight seal.

I honestly can't answer that Eddie. I just take pictures, and write the check. I trust that my builder knows what he is doing, and as stated before, I wouldn't even know what questions to ask in most cases.

 

[EddieWalker]

Installing and Flashing Windows Correctly - Fine Homebuilding

Trust in your contractor is always a nice thing, and in most of what he is doing, it looks like he is a very good contractor. But sometimes they miss something, or they are not on site to see everything. And sometimes they just do things the way they always have because they have never been made aware of a problem, or a better way to do it.

 

[JHurt]

Installing and Flashing Windows Correctly - Fine Homebuilding

Trust in your contractor is always a nice thing, and in most of what he is doing, it looks like he is a very good contractor. But sometimes they miss something, or they are not on site to see everything. And sometimes they just do things the way they always have because they have never been made aware of a problem, or a better way to do it.

Thank you for your input Eddie! I rarely see my builder. I leave for work before he arrives, and he is generally gone before I get home. I may try to catch him sometime in the next few mornings to quiz him. Thanks again!

 

[ovrszd]

Eddie, not saying this is a reason to not tape them but, he's spray foaming the walls. Maybe Ed thinks that will stop window drafts? We'll see when they spray the foam?

Oh, never mind.... thinking as I was typing.... the spray foam won't solve the problem. The foam will be on the outer edge of the 2x6 window frame. The window is sitting inside the box.

I didn't see any other attempt to get a seal. I couldn't verify that any caulking was used either.

I thought my builder overkilled my window and door installs
Taped the window box at the corner seams. Ran a big dat bead of caulk around the frame before installing the window. Then taped all around the outside of the window before installing metal.

Sorry for the distraction Jarid.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Thanks for the link Eddie, I know my builder didn't do my windows like that.

 

[JHurt]

Looks like they worked on soffits and eaves today. They did add some sort of tape for the top of the windows on the east side.

 

[300UGUY]

Installing and Flashing Windows Correctly - Fine Homebuilding

Trust in your contractor is always a nice thing, and in most of what he is doing, it looks like he is a very good contractor. But sometimes they miss something, or they are not on site to see everything. And sometimes they just do things the way they always have because they have never been made aware of a problem, or a better way to do it.

I see a lot of Osb used here, but I recently read that some steel roofing manufacturers recommend plywood as it holds a screw better. I have seen some cases where the osb was replaced, because we can get a fair amount of rain here, and if the builder leaves the osb uncovered too long, it won’t pass inspection.

 

[JHurt]

Looks like they got the apron around the shop poured yesterday!

Little pad out the back door.

Not really shop related, but footings to reinforce the deck for the hot tub! I’m getting a shop, so the wife and kids think they need a hot tub.

 

[EddieWalker]

I've had a lot more fun in a hot tub then I have in a shop!!!!!

 

[oldballs]

Now....Eddie.......Don't forget .....this is a family oriented site.:laughing:

 

[Wakey]

No progress today either. My guy did stop by and talk about electrical stuff. Lots of outlets, lights, and 220 plugs for the welder. One thing my wife and I have had a tough time deciding on is a security light. I want something to shine across the yard so that I can see the basement door on my way in. Problem is, it will shine DIRECTLY in our bedroom window. Neither one of us want a motion light either as we are afraid critters will kick it on throughout the night. My solution was to put it on a timed switch. When I suggested that to the builder he responded with 的 wish I had known that was an issue, I could have put a switch in the basement when I trenched the water and electric? I NEVER even thought that was an option.

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