Snow Equipment Owning/Operating Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow

/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #561  
I have a PORTER-CABLE PCE605K 3-Amp Corded Oscillating Multi-Tool. I think I may try it on one of my lug's tomorrow. It is a great tool for cutting trim and removing grout. It has a built in depth gauge also.

So how did the oscillating tool work?
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #562  
So how did the oscillating tool work?

Don't they use something like a oscillating tool to remove broken arm casts. I doubt it will work:2cents:
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #563  
Don't they use something like a oscillating tool to remove broken arm casts. I doubt it will work:2cents:

No clue. Either oscillating or die grinder I.D assume.

I’d never use an oscillating tool on a tire but I’m still curious to see how it worked. I have a groover that works awesome and has done several sets of tires. Mine and others.

I would assume the oscillating tool would jump around a little and be inconsistent with depth. I could be wrong and that’s why I’m curious.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #564  
No clue. Either oscillating or die grinder I.D assume.

I’d never use an oscillating tool on a tire but I’m still curious to see how it worked. I have a groover that works awesome and has done several sets of tires. Mine and others.

I would assume the oscillating tool would jump around a little and be inconsistent with depth. I could be wrong and that’s why I’m curious.

We use an oscillating saw with fine teeth- it gets pretty warm, but won't cut skin.

I doubt an oscillating tool would work well in this application.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #565  
We use an oscillating saw with fine teeth- it gets pretty warm, but won't cut skin.

I doubt an oscillating tool would work well in this application.

I agree. I've used an oscillating tool, and it's great for certain applications, but having cut rubber with a knife I don't think it would work well for grooving tires.

Get the right tool for the job and it will go 100x better.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #566  
Talked to the local Tire dealer. When the tires are new, they could put in screw-in studs. They work well on ice, but can be hard on pavement. We don稚 have any pavement so it would have been a better choice, though the grooves certainly help.

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/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #567  
Talked to the local Tire dealer. When the tires are new, they could put in screw-in studs. They work well on ice, but can be hard on pavement. We don稚 have any pavement so it would have been a better choice, though the grooves certainly help.

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Those are packing nicely with snow- and mine look just about identical, so I won't post 'em.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #568  
I absolutely need to prioritize this next year. I've had the cutter for 2 years now. I've been sliding up and down my driveway the whole time.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #569  
You could also put some metal screws into the lugs.

Ralph

Thats what I did as a kid in order to ride my dirt bike on ice. I put s short sheet metal screw in each lug of a knobby tire. Worked great! I left them in all year.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #570  
Thats what I did as a kid in order to ride my dirt bike on ice. I put s short sheet metal screw in each lug of a knobby tire. Worked great! I left them in all year.

I did this in the tracks on my fourwheeler; I found that they wore fast and were backing out. Only left them in the one season... but traction was amazing!
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #571  
They did wear fast, but I never had any back out.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #572  
I may have posted this upthread, but since I see more comments about screws/studs I'll post again.

We bought screw-in carbide tipped studs for our forklift. We got the #1200 because we do use it inside on concrete. The only protrude about 1/32" but make an incredible difference in the snow.

Traction | Chinook Fork Plow

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/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #573  
I may have posted this upthread, but since I see more comments about screws/studs I'll post again.

We bought screw-in carbide tipped studs for our forklift. We got the #1200 because we do use it inside on concrete. The only protrude about 1/32" but make an incredible difference in the snow.

Traction | Chinook Fork Plow

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I wish we had those in the 80's! A icy sloped parking lot with a fork truck is real fun. We did use the plain ice race screws that helped alot.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #574  
We use an oscillating saw with fine teeth- it gets pretty warm, but won't cut skin.

I doubt an oscillating tool would work well in this application.

I saw a video on You Tube where he was using an oscillating saw to remove whole lugs. Not sure how it could be used to groove a tire.

The cheepest I've seen the tire grooving irons is About $80.
 
/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #577  
I grooved all four of my tires. I have nothing to compare it to - I didn't see the point of struggling for a winter and then adding the grooves to see how much better it would be.

The grooving itself went OK. It was near freezing and a bit windy. I can imagine it being quite a bit easier on a warm summer day, but it wasn't too bad. I did it in a total of three sessions. The first was a trial run - I did maybe a half dozen front lugs. Then I did most of the rest; I was getting physically worn out pushing that tool... Finished up with 26 rear lugs a couple days later.

Only used it three times in snow so far, but no problems whatsoever with traction. Thought I'd share a few pics that (I think) demonstrate why it works.

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/ Cutting / Groving / Siping R-4 for snow #578  
I grooved all four of my tires. I have nothing to compare it to - I didn't see the point of struggling for a winter and then adding the grooves to see how much better it would be.

The grooving itself went OK. It was near freezing and a bit windy. I can imagine it being quite a bit easier on a warm summer day, but it wasn't too bad. I did it in a total of three sessions. The first was a trial run - I did maybe a half dozen front lugs. Then I did most of the rest; I was getting physically worn out pushing that tool... Finished up with 26 rear lugs a couple days later.

Only used it three times in snow so far, but no problems whatsoever with traction. Thought I'd share a few pics that (I think) demonstrate why it works.

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A lot of work but you won’t be sorry when you need the traction in snow or mud,nice job thanks for sharing.
 

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