Critique my shop design

[woodlandfarms]

So I am on a second round of quotes for his design, but wanted to get some insight from anyone who cares to give an opinion. Its a basic overview, and a layout of floor plans as we..

On this page I have the basic layout, It is a modern style buidling, 45X68 18 foot to the eaves. 2 bay doors. The far end will only be windows, with the plan to put in a second floor in the third bay and enclsoe it, making a wood shop on the bottom floor, and my office and storage / work room upstairs.

Not sure what to describe on this that isn't on the paper. I am jamming this into a place next to the existing house and carport. I plan to intigrate the carport next door, probably making it a dedicated parking garage or metal shop.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Now this is the fun part, layout. I inherited a large woodshop so all of these tools I currently have. I need to build a few things but this is the idea for the wood shop side. The car shop side I am still working out and would love more guidance. I guess the need for it to be fllexible and go from automotive to metal work makes this side complicated.

 

[ArlyA]

Your shop is nearly the same size as the one I've designed, although mine is for snow machine storage, and maintenance. How I came up with the design is by asking other folks who do the same job and ask them "how do you like your shed? What would you do different?" and heard all kinds of good suggestions. I'll try attaching a print of my floor plan here in a bit. My building goal is of course different than yours, but it still might be helpful.

 

[KennyG]

With 45 foot span, you will probably have a joint in the roofing (I'm assuming metal roof). 2 in 12 slope you will need a really good overlap and seal. Any reason not to use conventional peaked trusses and roof with continuous sheets of metal?

 

[ArlyA]

Here is the floor plans of the shop I drew up. This simple photo misses many details. Carl, Its hard to switch from mechanical repairs to welding, in the same bay. What machines or implements, will you have in the bays?

 

[BHD]

So I am on a second round of quotes for his design, but wanted to get some insight from anyone who cares to give an opinion. Its a basic overview, and a layout of floor plans as we..

On this page I have the basic layout, It is a modern style buidling, 45X68 18 foot to the eaves. 2 bay doors. The far end will only be windows, with the plan to put in a second floor in the third bay and enclsoe it, making a wood shop on the bottom floor, and my office and storage / work room upstairs.

Not sure what to describe on this that isn't on the paper. I am jamming this into a place next to the existing house and carport. I plan to intigrate the carport next door, probably making it a dedicated parking garage or metal shop.

on the wood shop, and the miter saw, one suggestion, would be to set the saw out on the edge of the bench and possibly make an inset in the bench to make the cutting surface of the saw the saem as the bench, even to the point of making pull outs to support the lumber to be cut, on the front edge of the bench, (I have yet to see a bench that does not get things set on it, (even you bench tools could be in the way), the bench tools usually do not deal with long pieces, but you miter saw I alfelt one should have at least 16 foot on each side, and if you can not reach that goal, put i in line with a door or window, way, so you can,,

 

[woodlandfarms]

Arly, there is another thread I started on what would you do different on your shop.

Kenny, great info. I have been having mixed results with contractors, some refuse to do more than 40 and some do not. Not one consitent rational.

BHD, Yeah, I have been seeing those chop saw tables and that is what this is hopefully going to become. I wanted to repurpose that bench for not only chop saw but for the band saw as well..

 

[BLSXJ]

why not keep the compressor and dust collection in only one lean-to? building two of them seems like one to many.

I'd suggest about 2 more welding outlets then you think you need in a shop that size. I only have one for 850 sqft and I've been at the end of a 50' welding extension cord more then once.

your going to want to start thinking about compressed air distribution. I have a detailed review of the rapid air system I used in one of my threads.

 

[Tompet]

Any thought to a dual pitch truss roof? Something like a 3/12 for most of run and shorter 6/12 or 8/12 in front on short pitch? It wold drop the front scale down a little and allow you a 3/12 on longer run for better water runoff. Might be a consideration aesthetically too.

The manufacturers I looked for metal roofs recommended 3/12 pitch minimum. Personally I wouldn't go less than that in any event. But I can see on a shed roof that long why you want to keep it low as possible.

In any event, nice size building, post pix when you start!

 

[ArlyA]

We thought we'd have the potable water heater, close or in the same room as the bathroom. Then have the air compressor on that rooms roof which is on the wall with the work area. Keeping air and water lines as short as possible. For welder power outlets, have than on the same wall as the work area which is 45ft long.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Great stuff guys. I had intended to keep the wood shop vacuum and the compressor in the same space but someone told me it would just destroy my compressor. The dust would get into the compressor and kill it.

Tompet, if the quotes come back too crazy then we will go back to a normal roof pattern. As noted, we are into modern architecture and would like this not to be the norm. but also don't want it to cost us an arm and a leg.

 

[majorwager]

My shop is 40 x 108. 16 ft TOS @ OH 16 x 12 doors, 12 ft TOS @ front, small mezzanine above tool room. No dedicated second floor. Roof Pitch slightly greater than 1 in 12. Roof deck is 3/4" OSB T&G, roof membrane Firestone .060" reinforced fully adhered EPDM. Like monoslope buildings. Secondary OH doors are 10 x 8 and 10 x 10, 2 man doors @ 3 x 7. And with that all the toys do not fit.

 

[Gary Fowler]

With 45 foot span, you will probably have a joint in the roofing (I'm assuming metal roof). 2 in 12 slope you will need a really good overlap and seal. Any reason not to use conventional peaked trusses and roof with continuous sheets of metal?

That is my thought exactly. By going with a conventional v peaked roof, you will gain more headroom throughout the building and you may be able to decrease the side height a bit especially on the front side and get a standard 4/12 roof slope.

 

[prichard]

Do you get snow there? I wouldn't want that pitch with snow and ice. I did 2:12 for a shed I just built but we have very little snow and it's just a shed.

 

[majorwager]

Prichard,
Was your question to me?

 

[prichard]

Either you or the OP. Does the roof mfgr agree with that slope in your conditions?

 

[majorwager]

Prichard,
My structural design is 60 PSF snow load + 12 PSF dead load, more than adequate, My roof membrane is a monolithic sheet of rubber. Mfg requires a min of 1/4 inch per ft slope. Well within tolerance,

 

[prichard]

Ah, I had metal roof in mind.

 

[ArlyA]

Gee, you are lucky. We have a 100psf code here!

Prichard,
My structural design is 60 PSF snow load + 12 PSF dead load, more than adequate, My roof membrane is a monolithic sheet of rubber. Mfg requires a min of 1/4 inch per ft slope. Well within tolerance,

 

[majorwager]

ArlyA,
Codes all based on geographical zones. We ususally get wind with snow, Rarely accumulate more than 6 " on any roof. Grade accumulation very different.

There is a thread in Deere operating forum posted by member w/ many 4052r issues. You may wish to have a look.