john deere 1050 joystick installation help!!!!

[krisbodean85]

Ok here is how it hooked up now the out on the joystick control valve from the fel is going to the side of the transmission the in is coming from the bottom of he block under the seat the pby one is coming from the top of the same block that the in is coming from but from the top of it.

 

[krisbodean85]

Can you send me a pic of your setup please.

 

[Dave M7040]

Ok here is how it hooked up now the out on the joystick control valve from the fel is going to the side of the transmission the in is coming from the bottom of he block under the seat the pby one is coming from the top of the same block that the in is coming from but from the top of it. View attachment 543766

Kris

You are, I am afraid, answering my questions backwards.

I need to know where each green line come from not where it goes to..

For example, The green metal line from the pump would have oil coming out the end of it as soon as you started to crank the engine.
You need to do that test of removing the line and directing it into a clean pail as you crank the engine for a few seconds. If a stream of oil comes out you have found the pump output which needs to go to the FEL valve block IN.

For the identification of the return to transmission line, use a funnel and pour the oil from the clean pan that came from the pump discharge line line back into the transmission.

When you had only the 3 pt hitch in the circuit, mark up your photo with just a single line to show me the two lines you connected together.

Am I correct in remembering, the problems with the hydraulics only began when the two single control levers were replaced with the joystick?

Dave M7040

 

[krisbodean85]

This is where the hard lines come from
Yes sir that is correct. Everything worked prior to this. I done swapped dang hoses every which way but the right way I guess. I’m at a lost

 

[krisbodean85]

The green line is where I tied both lines together and 3pt hitch worked

 

[Dave M7040]

Was the FEL valve removed from the tractor to install the joystick?

Did anyone remove this cap I have circled in yellow?

Dave M7040

 

[krisbodean85]

They removed the old controller valve that operated the loader the two stick controller.that side port has been removed by me to see what was there but I put it back in

 

[krisbodean85]

From my understanding the removed the old set up to install this new one with joystick controller

 

[Dave M7040]

From my understanding the removed the old set up to install this new one with joystick controller

What is confusing then is the amount on rust of the valve block.

Did the new joystick assembly get put on the old valve body?

Some time ago I asked you for the complete CROSS identification for your DV valve.

What paper work do you have from the time the FEL valve was ordered

Dave M7040

 

[krisbodean85]

It’s a new valve block. The parts house is suppose to get me that info on the valve today like the actual part number

 

[krisbodean85]

That’s what my loader valve looks like. That is the only valve on the tractor nothing else. I don’t have rear remotes or the old two stick fel controller valve. The only thing under the seat is the block where the 2 lines come out for the 3 point hitch the other line goes to the side of the transmission.

 

[Dave M7040]

Kris

I don't understand "He never hooked up the 3 pt hitch." What exactly do you mean by this.
Was there a hydraulic line left off which you have now added?

I just got off the phone with CROSS Mfg's tech guy Greg.

As I described your problem he suddenly felt like he had talked to you earlier today.

We need to be certain your DV valve actually has the power beyond sleeve installed.

Without it there cannot be any pressure going to the 3 pt.

Can you remove the cap I circled in yellow in an earlier photo and see if there is another part inside.

The correct power beyond sleeve is part # 1V2853.

Dave M7040

 

[krisbodean85]

when i say he never hooked it up i mean he never added an implement to the tractor after he got it back. when i got it the 3 pt will move up and down but i never had an implement on it till now that i added an implement it will not pick it up.i don't have a picture of the plug with me but ill see if i can find one online that looks like what is in there now

 

[Dave M7040]

Kris

The CROSS spec sheet according to Greg has mistakes.
In the following illustration I have blacked out the mistakes in labeling ports

Dave M7040

 

[krisbodean85]

so mr dave what goes where as far as my hoses coming from my tractor?i have 3 steel lines total. how do you think they should be installed? and according to the valve

 

[krisbodean85]

On which valve? Joystick control valve?

 

[Dave M7040]

so mr dave what goes where as far as my hoses coming from my tractor?i have 3 steel lines total. how do you think they should be installed? and according to the valve

Kris
You need to decide whose lead you want to follow, Barry's or mine.

Following directions from two different people will just add to your confusion.

I have no problem backing away.

Dave M7040

 

[krisbodean85]

No sir I’ll take your lead sorry

 

[krisbodean85]

You’ve been very helpful in trying to get this figured out for me and I don’t know how I could ever repay you and I appreciate all the help you’ve have given me so far in trying to resolve this for me.

 

[Dave M7040]

Kris
Sent you an email

Dave M7040