The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

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The replacement joystick knob has a rocker for opening/closing.
Travis

 

[kenmac]

well, that's a great price. I should have ordered from you
I got ripped by the dealer @$1200.00 installed.
It was a spur of the moment decision.
I have been known to make many spur of the moment decisions ,that I have regretted later

 

[ericm979]

A few hours' shop rate for installation is reasonable.

Mopardude, restrictors in the lines to your grapple cylinder would slow it down. I was planning on putting them in mine but with dual lids there's twice the volume and it's slow enough for me.

 

[kenmac]

A few hours' shop rate for installation is reasonable.

Mopardude, restrictors in the lines to your grapple cylinder would slow it down. I was planning on putting them in mine but with dual lids there's twice the volume and it's slow enough for me.

I had flow restrictors on my yanmar bucket grapple.
When winter came fluid was thicker. When I tried to use my grapple, It was too slow. I removed the restrictors

 

[lostcreekranch]

I had flow restrictors on my yanmar bucket grapple.
When winter came fluid was thicker. When I tried to use my grapple, It was too slow. I removed the restrictors

Use an adjustable inline flow control valve, one setting for warm weather and further open for cold weather.

3/8 NPT 8 GPM Prince WFC-6 In-Line Flow Control | Flow Control Valves | Hydraulic Valves | Hydraulics | www.surpluscenter.com

 

[kenmac]

Use an adjustable inline flow control valve, one setting for warm weather and further open for cold weather.

3/8 NPT 8 GPM Prince WFC-6 In-Line Flow Control | Flow Control Valves | Hydraulic Valves | Hydraulics | www.surpluscenter.com

mine were just fittings with smaller holes. Not adjustable like those

 

[mopardude318]

So it has an electric button you push on a joystick? If you can operate loader up/down, Dump and the grapple all at the same time you have a true 3rd function system. If you can only operate 2 of the 3 you have a diverter.

I bet it’s a true 3rd function. Sounds like it need a flow control device to slow down fluid flow to grapple cylinder. You may want to install such a device at the grapple so that you don’t limit hydraulic flow to other attachments.

Okay then I have a true third function. Yes I have an electric button. A flow restrictor fitting at the grapple makes sense, maybe I will try one. I suppose I would need 2, one for each line? open and close?

Do you have a single lid or dual? Mine is a dual lid and is surprisingly fast but not too fast. I imagine a single lid would be like a T-rex ready to eat something. 16.2 GPM baby!

Yes, I have a single lid! 16.2 GPM sure closes the lid violently, I would rather the option to feather it and close nice and smooth. Same for the hydraulic auger, I know that a sudden start/stop for the auger may not be the healthiest for the auger motor, so maybe there is also something I can do for that...But I don't know what that would be.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Okay then I have a true third function. Yes I have an electric button. A flow restrictor fitting at the grapple makes sense, maybe I will try one. I suppose I would need 2, one for each line? open and close?



Yes, I have a single lid! 16.2 GPM sure closes the lid violently, I would rather the option to feather it and close nice and smooth. Same for the hydraulic auger, I know that a sudden start/stop for the auger may not be the healthiest for the auger motor, so maybe there is also something I can do for that...But I don't know what that would be.

You only need one adjustable flow control valve per circuit, not two.

 

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I had some good news in my inbox this morning. It's great to hear feedback like this!

Claude from Rhode Island has a 60" Single Lid Wicked Grapple on his JD tractor with a 300CX loader.
"Hello, I just received my grapple and I am very impressed with the design and workmanship. I am a heavy equipment operator so I can appreciate good welding and steel work. My firewood will be easier now. Thanks again for a great website, literature, YouTube, and service on the phone. I will be sure to spread the word and leave a good review on website. Thank you."

Randy from Tennessee simply sent this pic with a caption reading: "Love it!!!!!! Thanks again for your help."
He has a 50" Single Lid Wicked Grapple on his Kubota L3301 tractor with an LA525 loader.

 

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I had a little snow day fun with the camera yesterday. A few inches shut down the town!!

Our lead times have greatly improved and most orders have been shipping in around 2 weeks or less!!!!! MUCH better than earlier in the year.
Travis

 

[mopardude318]

Okay, I'll try one of these and put it right before the flat face coupler?

 

[Xfaxman]

Okay, I'll try one of these and put it right before the flat face coupler?

Yep, on the hose that goes to the extend port of the lid cylinder.

 

[kenmac]

Okay, I'll try one of these and put it right before the flat face coupler?

That's what I had on mine. If you have to use it when it's cold out and the fluid thickens, you may remove it because your grapple will operate very slowly

 

[case580c]

I do like how your third function operates. Opening and closing is a smooth motion, mine opens and closes almost instantly...

Anyone have an opinion on my plan below. I would appreciate your input before I order my hoses Thanks in advance

I have a Kubota factory installed third function valve. With 1/2 hose feed to my flat face coupling sat the loader bulkhead.

I would think if I use 1/4 hose I should have a bit less flow, than if I use 3/8 hose & would have a bit more control as to how fast the lids open and close.


My Grapple came plumbed with 1/4 hose from the 2 lids and I need to provide hose from 2 tees at the back of grapple to my loader flat faced couplings. Which will be about 60 inches of 1/4 inch hose.

Perhaps with my dual lids Since there is 2 hyd clyinders though they are small not much volume appear to be 2 or 2.5 diameter the lids may operate slow enough for me. Without having to install a restricter inline

 

[ericm979]

I used 3/8 hose to run my dual lid Wicked from a rear remote. The lids take about two seconds to open or close. If anything they're a little bit slower than would be ideal for me. I have yet to feel like I need to feather the valve- I hold it down until the lids stop moving.

 

[lostcreekranch]

That's what I had on mine. If you have to use it when it's cold out and the fluid thickens, you may remove it because your grapple will operate very slowly

That’s why the adjustable valves are worth the extra cost.

 

[lostcreekranch]

Anyone have an opinion on my plan below. I would appreciate your input before I order my hoses Thanks in advance

I have a Kubota factory installed third function valve. With 1/2 hose feed to my flat face coupling sat the loader bulkhead.

I would think if I use 1/4 hose I should have a bit less flow, than if I use 3/8 hose & would have a bit more control as to how fast the lids open and close.


My Grapple came plumbed with 1/4 hose from the 2 lids and I need to provide hose from 2 tees at the back of grapple to my loader flat faced couplings. Which will be about 60 inches of 1/4 inch hose.

Perhaps with my dual lids Since there is 2 hyd clyinders though they are small not much volume appear to be 2 or 2.5 diameter the lids may operate slow enough for me. Without having to install a restricter inline

Case, I think you’ll be disappointed with 1/4” hose, Grapple will probably be very slow. I have 3/8” on mine and open / close is very acceptable. Mine is WR Long 3rd function.

 

[case580c]

Case, I think you値l be disappointed with 1/4 hose, Grapple will probably be very slow. I have 3/8 on mine and open / close is very acceptable. Mine is WR Long 3rd function.

Rick,Thanks for the reply. What size Line and or hose from your 3rd function to the bulkhead on your loader frame ? Is your entire grapple plumbed from your connectors to your lid Clyinders with 3/8 inch or is it with 1/4 inch hose. Thanks Bill

 

[LiveDog]

Anyone have an opinion on my plan below. I would appreciate your input before I order my hoses Thanks in advance

I have a Kubota factory installed third function valve. With 1/2 hose feed to my flat face coupling sat the loader bulkhead.

I would think if I use 1/4 hose I should have a bit less flow, than if I use 3/8 hose & would have a bit more control as to how fast the lids open and close.


My Grapple came plumbed with 1/4 hose from the 2 lids and I need to provide hose from 2 tees at the back of grapple to my loader flat faced couplings. Which will be about 60 inches of 1/4 inch hose.

Perhaps with my dual lids Since there is 2 hyd clyinders though they are small not much volume appear to be 2 or 2.5 diameter the lids may operate slow enough for me. Without having to install a restricter inline

I have a new L4701DT with dealer-installed WR Long 3rd function and EA 66" dual-lid Wicked Grapple (see attached 5 pics)... The tractor has 1/2' feed and 3/8" distribution hydraulic lines and my grapple came fitted with 3/8" lines... But the WR Long 3rd function was installed/plumbed with 1/4" lines... It is my understanding "...the WR Long 3rd function valve came as a kit [to the dealer] with 1/4" lines..." and I questioned this but after 50 hours of grapple-operation I am very satisfied with the speed of the dual lids... I notice that I can easily control the speed and hence the strength of the lids and this is ESPECIALLY USEFUL when handling brush that is smaller/old/dry so that I don't crush it and have it break/fall-apart... The lids close at a medium speed allowing me to control the rate/strength while simultaneously curl the bucket in order to maximize my grab/load... If the lids were any faster I think it would be much more difficult to control/coordinate an EFFECIENT/EFFECTIVE/MAXIMUM pick... Don't be afraid to try the 1/4"...

BTW, I would definitely NOT describe the lid closure a 'slow' with the 1/4" hoses... Moderate/medium/controllable/respectable/etc. perhaps but NOT slow and certainly not 'very slow' as some have pontificated/predicted... Again, I am very happy with the speed and I would be willing to try the 3/4" hoses but no need... All I am saying is that I have/use the 1/4" and they work fine if not desirable... I was pleasantly surprised... Try them for yourself... Good luck...

 

[lostcreekranch]

Rick,Thanks for the reply. What size Line and or hose from your 3rd function to the bulkhead on your loader frame ? Is your entire grapple plumbed from your connectors to your lid Clyinders with 3/8 inch or is it with 1/4 inch hose. Thanks Bill

Mine is all 3/8” hose and my EA Wicked Grapple for Utility Tractors is single lid / single cylinder Bill.

The WR Long on my 100HP New Holland has 1/2” feed but rest of hose, including my 84” HD grapple is 3/8” which was my decision.

Both grapples open / close very smoothly.