The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,001  
I got some flat face couplers that supposedly allow connection under some pressure. We'll see if they actually work- I've yet to detach the grapple.

Another option some people have used is to make a tee with a coupler on either side and a valve on the middle. You connect the grapple's connectors to the tee and open the valve to let some oil out if there's pressure build up.

I wanted flat face because they lose less oil when uncoupling but what I didn't expect is that compared to standard ag couplers of the same size they're huge. Larger diameter and longer as well. I didn't need 1/2" for flow but that size is cheaper than 3/8.
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,002  
If you remove your grapple, for instance, and it’s cool but, you store it in the sun, internal pressure goes up. No matter how you do it, the pressure has to be relieved before you can make a hookup.

I’ve had good results storing my grapple, post/ tree puller, etc. under roof. When removing my grapple I close the grapple lid(s), shut off engine, turn ignition to run, cycle the 3rd function switch a couple of times to relieve any residual pressure, then disconnect hoses.
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,003  
If you remove your grapple, for instance, and it’s cool but, you store it in the sun, internal pressure goes up. No matter how you do it, the pressure has to be relieved before you can make a hookup.

I’ve had good results storing my grapple, post/ tree puller, etc. under roof. When removing my grapple I close the grapple lid(s), shut off engine, turn ignition to run, cycle the 3rd function switch a couple of times to relieve any residual pressure, then disconnect hoses.

All my years with old farm equipt and Backhoes and Crawler loader where I would remove the Backhoe and install a hydraulic controlled Ripper I never had a pressure problem. Perhaps I may have had a small leak. It appears these Flat Faced Couplers are better for the environment EPA stuff, more of a sealed system? I have to buy a set of Flat Faced couplings anyway I will look into the couplings by Parker and Holmbury Connect-Under-Pressure Quick Disconnects and see how pricey they are? Anyone have experience with the Connect-Under-Pressure Quick Disconnects ? Thanks Bill
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,004  
If you remove your grapple, for instance, and it’s cool but, you store it in the sun, internal pressure goes up. No matter how you do it, the pressure has to be relieved before you can make a hookup.

I’ve had good results storing my grapple, post/ tree puller, etc. under roof. When removing my grapple I close the grapple lid(s), shut off engine, turn ignition to run, cycle the 3rd function switch a couple of times to relieve any residual pressure, then disconnect hoses.

That’s exactly what I do. I don’t have flat faced but when my old tractor had a male and female on the tractor and the same on the grapple I would connect the two together when not in use. It would equalize the pressure and never had problems hooking up.

Brett
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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#3,005  
Here's an explanation by Ted.
Travis

 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,007  
Here's an explanation by Ted.
Travis

Not quite. Ted said if it is detached correctly (assume as he described) there will never be a problem. What he did not account for is thermal expansion. If you decouple in cold weather and try to recouple in hot weather, the pressure will have built up. An earlier post mentioned storing under cover which prevents heating in the sunshine. This will lessen the pressure at least.
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,008  
Perhaps this issue is because of the newer style Flat faced Couplers
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,009  
The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Perhaps this issue is because of the newer style Flat faced Couplers

Nope Bill, thermal expansion is thermal expansion. Has nothing to do with the QD’s. You have to either let the hydraulic circuit cool or .....burp the QD. Not a big issue. My 100 hp 3rd function is flat face QD’s.
 
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/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,010  
Kill two birds with one stone. Get one of these handy coupling clamps available at Tractor Supply.

Switch the male from the tractor to the female on the Wicked. Mark the hoses so the same ones always connect. Attach the clamp to the FEL.

It makes coupling and uncoupling so easy. You feel like you have three hands and never need worry about thermal expansion. You can effortlessly burp both sides of the cylinder if need be.

Use rubber plugs when the Wicked is not attached. We cut the strings off ours and when not in use plug them together and keep them in the tool box on the side of the tractor. Keeps the plugs clean that way.

Here is ours held onto the tractor with zip ties and the hoses are identified with zip ties.

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/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,011  
I agree, third function QDs should be polarized so, your grapple always operates the same from your controls. Both of my grapples always operate same. Press on top side of rocker switch to open and press bottom side of rocker switch to close.

The QD’s, on my tree puller are similar. Press Top side of switch to open tree puller and bottom side to close.
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,012  
Kill two birds with one stone. Get one of these handy coupling clamps available at Tractor Supply.

Switch the male from the tractor to the female on the Wicked. Mark the hoses so the same ones always connect. Attach the clamp to the FEL.

It makes coupling and uncoupling so easy. You feel like you have three hands and never need worry about thermal expansion. You can effortlessly burp both sides of the cylinder if need be.

Use rubber plugs when the Wicked is not attached. We cut the strings off ours and when not in use plug them together and keep them in the tool box on the side of the tractor. Keeps the plugs clean that way.

Here is ours held onto the tractor with zip ties and the hoses are identified with zip ties.

flDDgfHWKbpxIIZ1762fAmeEzct8K_PzauBkZRkCVxvgWYtZBU4f-6VeYcdbBYzXtiRAlqaivhGi9tHgVw5oL5bEb4gwJ2v7e-HlEajuBhfr28zTDm3x9NMoOdSLVfasVjT3_FiPSL7EioUmLdxihhM_C1vTmjvErQIiA5fv-k6Vkrionezu4XYXn_BQ0RnJiL1TIIVkEtI1oORiTmHRDM4ZbGWZSgJ2YUbyKoIekv9MtjwMSB2xc0c-Pb4LiazYIWXnKoYxhDNqGJ9wDimUMu8fWBbFZSXCz78nNu-q2v3XiWz7myrl-L8p09-1j0T_ire9CVlx_A3M2ylzog_uDC1EAC1BEoZ_uoaXwGY2GGLX35w1q2UyetvwWEJ2yHAgYEpdph2Lf19tXteIXrcUlMbs45bsti1cO7-P6GsbJk2GbZD7OshfifhGbnQeNgAeDgMl_Vwx4_XurELReuqE-hqVPs7Ik9Vq_sENJfEMQ3oAR1gZq4ppcVFgNoL9koYArzz83MI5UzhAu6XDQnhzNo4Q-10uP7C-taEqgHvXzSuVJDe9ZinlDBD03Naa0SOko4EOUg8wWGVOVSzVwT0yWnobfRy0Kan5_SEiXjNmtrY=w877-h655-no

What is this tool that Tractor Supply sells? The link just take me to the home page, or am I missing something ?

I was thinking of changing rotatingthe positon of my Couplings 90 degrees to match yours and I would think it would be better for the hoses to the grapple. Easier to route and less slop.

Thanks

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/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,013  
I agree, third function QDs should be polarized so, your grapple always operates the same from your controls. Both of my grapples always operate same. Press on top side of rocker switch to open and press bottom side of rocker switch to close.

The QD痴, on my tree puller are similar. Press Top side of switch to open tree puller and bottom side to close.


That's how mine came...I thought that was standard? Or rather, adding a male and female on those.
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,014  
If you remove your grapple, for instance, and it痴 cool but, you store it in the sun, internal pressure goes up. No matter how you do it, the pressure has to be relieved before you can make a hookup.

I致e had good results storing my grapple, post/ tree puller, etc. under roof. When removing my grapple I close the grapple lid(s), shut off engine, turn ignition to run, cycle the 3rd function switch a couple of times to relieve any residual pressure, then disconnect hoses.

rlgustafson Maybe I should just not worry about is as temps are more extreme where you live. For me the yearly average Temperatures: Low is 46 high is 70

Being I have to buy couplings I would rather spend a few bucks more and install the better set up than spend less on coupling that I end up having to upgrade and a later date. I will see how much more the connect under pressure coupling is.
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,015  
[snip]
I am not arguing with you, I am simply trying to explain why you may be wrong...
[snip]

Ha! I'm going to use this. :laughing:
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,016  
Ha! I'm going to use this. :laughing:

Glad YOU liked it... YOU may also find this one poignant...

'IF I AGREED WITH YOU, WE'D BOTH BE WRONG'

I have many more "paraprosdokians"...

OK... I will share a couple more of my favorites...

"Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak"

"I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you"

"A clear conscience is the sign of a bad memory"

"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in your pole-barn makes you a tractor"

"I'm supposed to respect my elders, but it’s getting harder and harder for me to find one"

Good luck with these... MANY more to come...

Don't forget, "It is better to be a Live Dog than a dead lion"
 
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/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #3,017  
:D Thanks for the chuckles!
 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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#3,019  
This is pretty Wicked Awesome! We do not have dealer prices, but he says a tractor with a Wicked Grapple is an EASY sell. :D
Travis

 
/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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#3,020  
Glad YOU liked it... YOU may also find this one poignant...

'IF I AGREED WITH YOU, WE'D BOTH BE WRONG'

I have many more "paraprosdokians"...

OK... I will share a couple more of my favorites...

"Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak"

"I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you"

"A clear conscience is the sign of a bad memory"

"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in your pole-barn makes you a tractor"

"I'm supposed to respect my elders, but it’s getting harder and harder for me to find one"

Good luck with these... MANY more to come...

Don't forget, "It is better to be a Live Dog than a dead lion"

I like em!

This was the closing to an email I just read. :laughing:
Travis

"Please consider this a quote of wisdom for the present time until I can come up with something better."
 
 

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