The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

[k0ua]

Diverter is diverting a function of the valve (curl or lift) and is dependent on how far you move the lever for the amount of flow/speed/pressure you get. If you don't move the lever much, it is slower than the full-flow of an electric 3rd function.

That is a good point..

 

[RichM752]

Grapple on the truck, grapple on the truck. Be here in a week, only one week.

 

[EverythingAttachments]

Grapple on the truck, grapple on the truck. Be here in a week, only one week.

:cool2: :cool2: I love excuses for the happy dance!! :cool2: :cool2:
Travis

 

[Sysop]

I disagree with your statement that 3rd function is either open or closed? I have two tractors, 100 HP and 50 HP, with grapples and WR Long 3rd function kits on both. I can stop lids anywhere I want between full open and full close. The hydraulic fluid flow rate determines speed of opening or closing.

Others stated that they want very fast speed so they can "bang" their lid closed? Why? Makes no sense, IMHO?

I never said the grapple was all the way open or all the way closed, you're confused. I said the VALVE was fully opened or closed.

Yes you can stop it where you want by letting off the button. But you cannot control the speed and pressure it operates. There is no "variable control" to using the button. It is ON or OFF. That makes valve itself either open or closed, there is no way to "feather" it. A true manual valve can, so can a diverter (by feathering the diverted control).

 

[sea2summit]

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4) Shutting down or disparaging dissent isn't good for EA, TBN or the USA.

So what about the part where you disparage EA customers as "noobs", I wish TBN had an ignore function:confused3:

 

[Sysop]

Grapple on the truck, grapple on the truck. Be here in a week, only one week.

Mine too according to the email I got today! Tracking doesn't seem to like the number though...

 

[EverythingAttachments]

Mine too according to the email I got today! Tracking doesn't seem to like the number though...

You should be able to track it tonight or tomorrow after Fed Ex gets it scanned into their system at the terminal.
:cool2::cool2: And another one!! :cool2::cool2:
Travis

 

[lostcreekranch]

I never said the grapple was all the way open or all the way closed, you're confused. I said the VALVE was fully opened or closed.

Yes you can stop it where you want by letting off the button. But you cannot control the speed and pressure it operates. There is no "variable control" to using the button. It is ON or OFF. That makes valve itself either open or closed, there is no way to "feather" it. A true manual valve can, so can a diverter (by feathering the diverted control).

My mistake, lo siento. I've slowed the speed of grapple lid closing a bit to where I can close it to where exactly I want it. Part of this comes with many hours of using two grapples. I'm happy with my WR Long 3rd functions and would consider any of The alternatives. YMMV.

 

[IslandTractor]

So what about the part where you disparage EA customers as "noobs", I wish TBN had an ignore function:confused3:

Do you think newbies or noobies or noobs are disparaging terms??? I don't. I think of them as shorthand for "somebody just starting with X". I never attribute a negative connotation.

 

[Sysop]

I'm happy with my WR Long 3rd functions and would consider any of The alternatives. YMMV.

They are the best kit for adding a dedicated electric 3rd function, and is what I just used for my tractor. I care more about quality than product source, but I was disappointed to see that WR Long is now shipping their kits with Chinese hoses. They appear to be good quality hoses, so I'm pretty confident they will hold up okay.

I just don't consider running off the rear remotes or using a diverter valve as a "cheap" alternative. I think it is just a matter of what works best for a given situation.

In my situation, I can foresee myself in scenarios where I need to have a choice of either curl or lift (or perhaps both) at the same time as activating the grapple. Diverting either of those functions isn't really an option.

There are lots of "weekend warriors" that never use more than one function at a time, so a diverter is the best solution for them.

There are also a group of folk that want to run hydraulic motors on the front, such as post hole augers, or those that simply have their rear port control within easy reach of the loader control, and simply routing some hoses under the deck from the rear is their best possible scenario. The WR Long 3rd function, as well as all of the other electric/hydraulic 3rd function and diverter valves I know of state they will burn up if running hydraulic motors and should only be used for momentary operation of a hydraulic cylinder.

Also in my situation, I will have both; my WR Long 3rd function, as well as hoses from my rear ports. Hoses from the rear ports will go to the location of my WR Long valve and have quick disconnects. I will be able to disconnect the hoses that run to the front of the loader at the WR Long valve and connect them to the hoses from the rear so it will be the rear ports sending fluid to the front of the loader. I plan on doing this so I can run hydraulic motors on the front of the tractor.