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   / Good morning!!!! #42,941  
so the additives disperse the water, i.e. I assume make it fall to the bottom, and I just drain off the clear
until the pink starts. I don't know, sounds complicated...;)
No ... you have an incorrect definition for disperse.

What it means that the water is dispersed throughout the fuel - making a water-block filter essentially ineffective.

dis·perse/dəˈspərs/

verb

distribute or spread over a wide area.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,942  
A significant outbreak is possible Tuesday for parts of southern Louisiana, southern Mississippi, southern Alabama and the western Florida panhandle

tornado alert: Larro and others be careful
Big system starting up around Fort Worth and heading East and up.
Same system has thunderstorm and possible tornado warnings already for this area on Wednesday.
sounds like a mess coming.

Damaging winds, large hail and possibly a tornado

Nothing major expected here until after 2100 tonight. But Mamma has already called to say she was staying with us tonight. The bad news for her, I'm working and Margie has to be at the County Commissioner meeting, which is way past Mamma's bed time. Looks like the worst will be between midnight and 0300. Good thing I wasn't planning to camp. Everyone goes crazy when I camp in bad weather.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,943  
The tornado threat is also significant for Wednesday in eastern North Carolina and southeast Virginia.

Well looks like I'm taking my flags down tomorrow and for sure the patio umbrella.
The national radar is pretty intense right now.

Ok RS, so you mean the additives breaks down the water into tiny molecules and spread them throughout the fuel so they can be
safely burned? No fuel value in water so has to hurt performance if there's much of it. Nasty on most injectors...
And what you are saying is those tiny molecules would go right through the water block filter because they are too small, like microns?
I usually use Power Service or Pri-D. Now if I connect the dots right here I can use the additives properly if I employ only a sediment filter, but if
I use a water blocking filter, I guess I'm wondering what the downside to that is? For sure Goldenrod would love to sell me the four or five dollar more expensive water filter. RS, if you pay more for it, you know it must be better, right?
I'll let that percolate a bit...:D

I'm basing this all on an ***-umption that a water filter is a sediment filter plus water blocking. Not just a single purpose filter.
However I've often seen these filters in pairs and I bet one is a sediment filter and one a water block, which of course makes me wonder if my
original assumption that the more expensive filter did everything was clearly wrong.
Unless i got a bad load of fuel, with a new tank filled to within ten gallons of capacity, there's not much exposed wall area to create condensation.
So I don't think water will be an issue for awhile.

My instinct is to wait on any additives. The oil company is one of the largest around and moves the product so I feel confident what I got was reasonably fresh.
Too bad there's not some way to dip the fuel and have it tell you how old it is. Perhaps a cetane test strip.
I do know there are some strips that test for water. Those might be handy though
hopefully not a "congratulations you have already wrecked your engine" indicator

But I am paying attention and I ordered only a sediment spare. If I'm going to make this diesel fuel last two years, with perhaps half fresh added in a year, I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to use some diesel additives. Pretty sure, not positive. Don has me wondering now but my reality is a two year supply.
I would normally use a biocide like Biobor and then a cetane booster with injector lubricant in it. And before next winter, maybe a dose of magic juice with
antigel in it. This is what worked for me for many years with boat diesels and cold weather. Hmmm. I just thought of something. Is it safe to assume what got put in my tank was ultra low sulphur diesel? Is that mandatory?
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,945  
The tornado threat is also significant for Wednesday in eastern North Carolina and southeast Virginia.

My instinct is to wait on any additives. The oil company is one of the largest around and moves the product so I feel confident what I got was reasonably fresh.

Drew, Power Services is cheap, cheap insurance, especially with your low usage. I refill my 300 gallon tank minimum twice a year and use the PS Gray bottle in spring and the PS White bottle in the fall. Golden Rod sediment / water cartridge replaced every other tank fill.

Never had a fuel issue yet (knock wood).

My 2cents worth.

Really like your tank, my is elevated gravity flow. Tank bottom about 7 ft above ground. No pump or electricity to worry over.

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   / Good morning!!!! #42,946  
buckeye, I am seeing that now that Drew has me looking. I e-mailed my LP supplier today to see what the min gallon purchase on off road diesel is and asked them about tank set ups. Maybe they got a small used one. They do farm fuel and lube products to.
Guess I will see. Sure would be better than lifting those 6 gallon cans.
Rick, I like the elevated gravity flow but don't know if they still make them. Maybe a farm sale would be worth going to.
One thing about moisture, if you break it down to where it goes through the combustion cycle, H2O = more O and more Bang!!!
Well the pot roast I made was good, and I should be cleaned out in the next 24 hours from all the grease. Tomorrows weather is a real crap shoot for us. It can swing good or bad. We will see.
Have a good night.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,947  
buckeye,

Rick, I like the elevated gravity flow but don't know if they still make them. Maybe a farm sale would be worth going to.
One thing about moisture, if you break it down to where it goes through the combustion cycle, H2O = more O and more Bang!!!
Well the pot roast I made was good, and I should be cleaned out in the next 24 hours from all the grease. Tomorrows weather is a real crap shoot for us. It can swing good or bad. We will see.
Have a good night.

Yep you can buy them or a good fuel supplier will usually have one or two available for loan if you are a good customer. Mine was originally a ground based tank. It has a skid under tank that you might see in my picture. It was a gift from a friend in the very early 1990's. I had inside steam cleaned as it had set for a year or two. Gave it a light sand blast, prime with marine primer, and two coats of enamel. Bought the stand at a farm sale and extended height about 2 ft. The tank skids fit into the tank stand perfectly. Added vent, valve and filter and it has been working great for over 25 years. I think my first fill, of red diesel, cost about $0.85/gallon.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,948  
Another inch of rain this morning, 1 3/4" this week. Started about 3 a.m. and over before dawn. Very windy all day, gust to over 35 mph, and just got to 60 degrees.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,949  
Another inch of rain this morning, 1 3/4" this week. Started about 3 a.m. and over before dawn. Very windy all day, gust to over 35 mph, and just got to 60 degrees.

Very windy here, y'all batten the hatches and keep your heads low out east.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,950  
so the additives disperse the water, i.e. I assume make it fall to the bottom, and I just drain off the clear
until the pink starts. I don't know, sounds complicated...;)

first I have to fix the silly bowl so it won't leak every time I turn the pump on.

There are generally 2 type of water treatment for diesel - EMULSIFIERS and DEMULSIFIERS. RS is writing about demulsifiers.

From BITOG
This argument has been going on for longer than I can remember in various forms. I use a different take on the situation, I don't want the water in the tank to cause algae and I don't want it going through my injectors either. So I use emulsifiers and move the water from the tank to my primary fuel/water separator, and from that to the engine fuel/water separator and hope that the encapsulation of water is minimal when it goes to the injectors after 2 fuel water separators.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,951  
Drizzling rain now big rain for tomorrow with some big storms on the way. East of here bigger storms
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,952  
2016-02-24, 0248

31 right now...high of 36 today. We got a light dusting of snow last night (<1") and might see some freezing rain this morning.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,953  
40 and drizzle, going to 66 and storms...low risk for tornadoes, but looks like SE Virginia and E NC could get it rough. Stay safe.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,954  
29F light dusting snow,freezing rain than rain mid day mid 30's for hight,steady rain tonight w/higher temps.

Haven't heard nor seen sand/salt truck yet this morning,could be interesting ride to work.

Enjoy the day all.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,955  
East of here bigger storms

https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=C111US0D20160220&p=stormy+weather

time to get the flags in and watch tons of crap fall into the lawn from all the pine trees. Sigh.
Job security...

At least it's warm.
I just can't pull my poor self together, I'm weary all the time...so weary all the time...

Good song for Geritol. Remember those ads?

Almost feels like summer is revving up its engines

60 going up to 72 in stormy weather for sure
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,956  
David, Mossflower Woods, we need a full report on marital bliss and how well you are doing.
Other than getting stuck in the snow in your driveway.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,957  
Made a trip to Richmond last night had dinner with son then back home. He is taking bar exam in Norfolk yesterday and today. Very tough I'm told. Drive home very foggy last night on Afton Mountain last night on return trip late night but well worth it

Those in eastern NC be careful today and SE VA as well big storms and rain coming change in seasons coming so turbulent weather coming
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,958  
Made a trip to Richmond last night had dinner with son then back home. He is taking bar exam in Norfolk yesterday and today. Very tough I'm told. Drive home very foggy last night on Afton Mountain last night on return trip late night but well worth it

Those in eastern NC be careful today and SE VA as well big storms and rain coming change in seasons coming so turbulent weather coming
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,959  
I just realized that TxDon has helped to alter my diet and now has improved my understanding of diesel decay.
Important improvements. Don, thank you.
And RS, and RNG, and.......
We really do learn a lot here.

is it just me or are others having problems and delays posting?
Maybe the internet is clogged in the morning.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #42,960  
I just realized that TxDon has helped to alter my diet and now has improved my understanding of diesel decay.
Important improvements. Don, thank you.
And RS, and RNG, and.......
We really do learn a lot here.

is it just me or are others having problems and delays posting?
Maybe the internet is clogged in the morning.
 

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