Tires checking tire pressure when filled with liquid ballast

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madisonhawk

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Hi everyone,
I noticed my one rear tire seemed low the other day ,so I turned the tire until the valve was up on top. Problem is ever time I tried to get the pressure reading in the tire the darned sticky beet juice would come out and make a mess and wouldn't show any reading on the tire gauge. I just went ahead and put some air in to where it looks ok. Is the tire possibly to full of ballast or do they make a special tire gauge for checking filled tires? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks Don
 
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To answer your question, yes. I just look at mine. After all we are talking about a low speed tractor here not a airplane. No need to over complicate things.
 
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If you ever pop a tire off the wheel, you will wish you had a good way to measure pressure. My rears have antifreeze and a regular tire gauge works OK. I once broke the bead on a front tire (not filled). I was unable to re-seat the bead DIY. I could barely lift that front tire into my pickup (a rear would have been impossible for me to lift). I spent all day locating a tire place with one of those air canons to re-seat the bead. Several tire places without that air canon tried and failed to seat the bead. Now I own an air canon tire bead seater for next time.
 
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The fronts are way easier to measure since they are not filled. The front fronts are also more important to have close to proper pressure.
 
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If you give a little squirt of air into the tire before checking with the gauge, then you will get a better reading and minimal loss of beat juice.
After you have checked the pressures, rinse off the gauge in warm water and then give it a blast or two with WD40.
 
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Another safe way is to set your air supply regulator to the recommended tire pressure and fill them all, no need to goop up your gauge.
 
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I don't have beet juice but WWAF, all I do is push the valve in for a second to blow the liquid out and then use my gauge.....Mike
 
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http://www.joesracing.com/images/F133292216.jpg

The one I use is a little different from this because it has a pressure gauge in the handle so the gauge stays away from the fluid. I couldn't quickly find a picture of mine.

These work quite well and don' seem to let rimguard to the gauge. I never had a problem using one like this.

I just keep air flowing when I hook it up, then briefly let up to check the pressure, and then run air while unhooking to keep the nozzle clean. Then run more air to keep the nozzle clean.

Keep the tires up to snuff because breaking a bead in the rear is a monster mess.
 
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When I had my tires filled with beat juice they gave me a gauge that has a spring in it and it spits the juice out after you check the pressure.
 
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Put the valve stem at 12 o'clock and then use your fingertip or a pen/etc to burp any liquid out of the stem. Then it's ok to attach any old gauge.
 
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Put the valve stem at 12 o'clock and then use your fingertip or a pen/etc to burp any liquid out of the stem. Then it's ok to attach any old gauge.
Not true. Most tires are filled above the top of the rim. It makes no difference what position the valve stem is in.
 
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Not true. Most tires are filled above the top of the rim. It makes no difference what position the valve stem is in.

I have found this to be true on my tractor.
 
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Not true. Most tires are filled above the top of the rim. It makes no difference what position the valve stem is in.

On every tractor I have owned, the valve stem is the high-water line. In fact, most of the fluid-fill kits are setup so that the valve stem becomes the high-water line when the tire is filled vertically. IIRC, the only time it's important to fill above the rim is with calcium chloride, to minimize chances of corrosion, but that has fallen out of favor for many years. But either way, the top of the rim is typically called out as the "convenient" reference location where the air gap starts, in order to provide enough cushion in the tire. If you do not have a convenient reference to know when to stop filling, it would take careful/difficult measurements to get the level right.
 
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Check your rear tires on a cold, humid morning. There will be a "frost line" formed at the top of the tire. This line represents - the frosty tire is where the fluid is in the tire - the frost free area is that portion of the tire above the liquid level in the tire.

My tires are filled with rimguard to a level about one inch below the valve stem. This means when the valve stem is at top dead center it is above the liquid in the tire.

I DO have a special tire gauge designed for filled tires - cost about $15. My procedure - valve stem to 12 'O clock, blow air into the tire - clearing all fluid from the valve stem, check & adjust pressure. Used this procedure for 30+ years with no problem at all.
 
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Valve stem at 12:00, I use a Milton tire chuck/gauge similar to what Deere dude has shown and explained method. Never had a problem with beet juice clogging the gauge or tire chuck valve since there is a 14" piece of hose between them and the tires valve stem. Also, these type of tire chuck/gauge can be rebuilt with new gaskets and o rings.
Here is a pic of what Oosik has described. Ice cold garage inside, warm humid air outside.


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Thanks everyone for your responses . Thinking of getting a milton tire gauge for liquid filled tires that was mentioned. After asking this question I got to thinking about if my tires aren't quite full with beet juice and I put the valve stem at 12:00, why is the liquid coming out? I just wonder if having my backhoe attached is putting weight on the rear and squashing the tires enough that may be pushing the beet juice out? Just a thought, what do you fellas think?
 
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Thanks everyone for your responses . Thinking of getting a milton tire gauge for liquid filled tires that was mentioned. After asking this question I got to thinking about if my tires aren't quite full with beet juice and I put the valve stem at 12:00, why is the liquid coming out? I just wonder if having my backhoe attached is putting weight on the rear and squashing the tires enough that may be pushing the beet juice out? Just a thought, what do you fellas think?
If fluid squirts out with the valve at the 12:00 position the fluid is higher than the rim like I said earlier.
 
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Slime makes a gauge for ballasted tires. About $10 at TSC or Amazon.
 
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If fluid squirts out with the valve at the 12:00 position the fluid is higher than the rim like I said earlier.

Even though the tire is at 12 o'clock could there be a little residual rimguard still in the valve stem that comes out? It won't flow out by may spurt a little bit.
 

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