Firewood Gathering With A Power Trac

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Disappointed with the logging tongs.......

Disappointed that I didn't get them 10 years ago!!!!! :laughing:

Oh, MAN!!! Spent several hours in the woods today dropping trees and snatching them out of the woods. I just drive up, lower the tongs, bounce the joystick around a bit and the tongs drop around the log, lift up and I'm outta there! Drag them at 8mph in reverse to my landing, set them down, then, like SpringHollow suggested, I just push them down a bit, and they slip right off the end of the log! Then off for the next log.

I am now a PowerTrac seat potato. :dance1:

I took some movies. Gotta find my YouTube account info and post them some time. Really happy with the $29.00 well spent! :thumbsup:
 
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OK, here's a video of the $29.00 logging (lifting) tongs from Northern Tool. I give them two thumbs up! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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Here's another video. Enjoy! :D

 
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great job mr!.....you're my hero......lol........I hate having to get out of the seat........nothing annoys me more then having to get off the tractor to hook up hoses on a hydro attachment.........now just find a way to hook up your chainsaw so you can chop the trunks into logs and you may never have to get off again.......Jack
 
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I'm thinking mini-feller with a circular carbide blade to knock them over and then rotate it 90 degrees to cut them into manageable lengths..... ;) However, the little PT425 doesn't have enough weight to counter balance a 40' 12" diameter locust tree falling in the wrong direction! :laughing:

One safety note about tongs on the FEL, in general, that I've found... Lets say you pull up to a log and pick it up from the end and drag it. That's fine. However, there were a couple times where there was a tree or stump in my way and I wanted to push the log with the tongs, at an angle, to get it around the obstruction, then pull it away. I've found 3-4 times that when pushing a log with the tongs gripping the log, and turning the wheel, I can get the far end of the log to stick in the dirt or a branch grabs another tree, and that will cause the PT to want to drive up over the outside wheels.

So, for example, the log is laying left-right across a slope. I come at it from the uphill side at a 90 degree angle on the right end of the log. I grab it with the tongs. I had the steering wheel turned to the left and pushed the log off to my left. The log grabbed something, the left side of the PT came up and wanted to tip to the right, which is now downhill a bit. Not just a PT pucker where the rear comes up because of heavy weight... both left tires come off the ground and the tractor wants to tip over both the right side wheels. I was past the oscillation point, the unit was locked in a sharp left turn and both left tires came off the ground. I was on a side-slope and instantly noticed I was tipping towards the down-slope side. Let off the pedal and slap the joystick into float resolved it instantly, but had an inexperienced PT operator not recognized this, or had I been going too fast, or been fatigued, etc... I think I could have forced the PT to tip on its side to the downhill side very easily. After I figured that out, I stopped doing that! :laughing: (Doctor, why does my eye hurt when I drink coffee? Take the spoon out of the cup kinda thing...). So, live and learn about loads, center of gravity, slopes, etc... I always try to drag out from the downhill side now, turning towards a parallel path to straight down the hill and not cross-slope now.

I also found the tongs very useful for pulling out trees that have been felled, but hung in a snag or stopped by grape vines. Remember, these are pole-sized trees around 40'-60' in length and under 12" in diameter at the stump. My woods are thick and about 1 in 10 will get hung in another tree or grape vines at the tops connected to other trees. This happens when I'm taking the first few trees out of an area and don't have a good clearing to drop them into. Most of the time I can just drop another tree onto the hung tree and both will them come to the ground. However, once in a while, there's no other tree to drop onto them, or the snag is too severe, and I definitely don't want to go under a hung tree or leave it to fall on its own. In the past, I'd get a couple chains and cable and pull it down with my Suburban or a come along. Now I can just grab the stump end, lift it up an inch or two and back the tree out of the snag. Very nice. :thumbsup:
 
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One more thing.... I found if the tree needs to be re-positioned for a better drag angle, I can grab the entire tree in the middle and lift it and rotate the tree 90 degrees left or right with just the steering wheel, set it down, then grab the end and go. :thumbsup:
 
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A friend of mine offered this cutting head for me to install on my PT. I doubt my machine could even lift the head, let alone process the tree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JUBYTSV4aw

Its fun to live in an area with so much forestry, you get to see some crazy stuff...

The smallest tree that guy was cutting would tip my little PT425 on its nose as soon as it started tipping forward. :laughing:

I was offered a forklift paper roll clamp for free. Its used to grasp rolls of newsprint in a paper warehouse. I was thinking of all the fun stuff I could do with that, because it not only clamped, it rotated 180 degrees. But it weighed too much for me to do anything useful with other than grab a couple cylinders and scrap the rest. Just the rotating part weighed a couple hundred pounds. Each hand of the clamp weighed a couple hundred pounds. The frame weighed 3-4 hundred pounds. So, 2+2+3=7 and I can only lift 8 on a good day! :rolleyes:
 
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It would be fun to put a carbide tipped circular saw blade on a motor horizontally and have some sort of 6' high brush frame that you could push up against 3" and under trees and cut them off at the base. I have several hundred, if not a thousand small trees I'd love to get rid of.

This is interesting...
 
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And then I found this.... I can't believe they say it will do a 4" tree with practice.... seems like a good way to do a face plant to me.

 
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Several places sell V-shaped knife setups for cutting off small trees with an atv, tractor, truck. People seem to be reasonably happy with them but it sounds brutal to the tractor and driver.

Ken
 
   / Firewood Gathering With A Power Trac #174  
Or, you could do what I do, and use the PT brush cutter... 4" oaks go down on the first pass. If I had many of them to do, I'd probably add a roll bar rail out front to push the trunks down, so the cutter can drive over them.

You don't want anyone in the area because of flying debris.

All the best, Peter
 
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Or, you could do what I do, and use the PT brush cutter... 4" oaks go down on the first pass. If I had many of them to do, I'd probably add a roll bar rail out front to push the trunks down, so the cutter can drive over them.

You don't want anyone in the area because of flying debris.

All the best, Peter

My little PT425 brush cutter gets stopped by oaks larger than 2". I'm plenty happy with it. But I'd like a saw that cuts at or just below ground level. I'm thinking on the lines of a small forklift mast with a circular blade instead of forks. You know how you can tilt a forklift's forks forward and raise it up and down? I'd like to be able to do something similar with a saw blade. I already got the raising and tipping with the FEL, so really, all I'd need to do is build a tall, skinny rectangle about 6' high and 18" wide to use to put some leverage on the trees, while the blade cuts them down low. Anyhow, I have a ton of unfinished projects and I'm not gonna allow myself to start another one until I get the honey-do list whittled down to less than half a page! ;)
 
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So maybe I should take my home made stump grinder and but a side mounting plate on it... Hmmmm... spinning wheel of death V2
 
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My little PT425 brush cutter gets stopped by oaks larger than 2". I'm plenty happy with it. But I'd like a saw that cuts at or just below ground level. I'm thinking on the lines of a small forklift mast with a circular blade instead of forks. You know how you can tilt a forklift's forks forward and raise it up and down? I'd like to be able to do something similar with a saw blade. I already got the raising and tipping with the FEL, so really, all I'd need to do is build a tall, skinny rectangle about 6' high and 18" wide to use to put some leverage on the trees, while the blade cuts them down low. Anyhow, I have a ton of unfinished projects and I'm not gonna allow myself to start another one until I get the honey-do list whittled down to less than half a page! ;)

How about something like this. Have to make it yourself as the one they sell is too big.

Marshall Tree Saw | Tree Removal
 
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I saw those several years ago. Very cool.
 
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You know, if you watch the ATV, especially the wheel angle view point, there doesn't seem to be much impact.

I would bet that it works great on softwood, and not so much on locust and oak.

It all depends on whether you want 2" high stumps. There is also the brush grubber sold by Northern Tool, but it has decidedly mixed reviews.

All the best,

Peter
 

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