Gooseneck or stick with bumper pull ?

[Diamondpilot]

What kind of hitch do you use for that much weight? That seems kinda heavy for a pick up?

I have the 2.5" Reese style. It's rated for 18,000#

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Well you have been lucky is all . The pin and bar was standard products anyone could buy . And u just stated that its dangerous to pull bp trailers with them weights because your over loading the tongue weight . So over weighting the tongue weight makes it dangerous . Sorry you don't see your dangerous even though you stated ya was . O and you need to get and pull more . Your way behind my pull'n miles . Lol Sent from my iPhone 5 using TractorByNet

No I admitted I knowingly overloaded my truck and hitch and paid for it.

Chris

 

[7879fordman]

Call eTrailer.com and ask them what they recommend. Faster solution, without insults if you opt for a bp. It will also save posters in this thread the time they'd waste looking for pictures or videos of breaking a GN hitch with a tack hammer.

He already has the BP trailer never said they where bad other than over loading . Which he isn't doing . Never stated he was . He wants more room . And he said he could buy the GN and still have the BP .

Heck I have 6 bumper pulls my self . 4 are under 16' and two are 16' but I would never put 10,000 pounds on them . I would use one of the 9 GNs I have .

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[Diamondpilot]

You could have easily stood your ramps up strait and had more room . Sorry you didn't know that you could do that . Or could easy use a slide in ramp with a dove . Then you could use the whole length of the trailer . So the OP has a 18" bumper pull and is thinking 25 dove that he could easily use the whole length like I just stated . So I see 7' of useable room difference . He was looking for more room not weight carrying . Your the one that has a weight problem . Lol Sent from my iPhone 5 using TractorByNet

No, the problem is the dove tail. Essentially wasted space unless loading hay or pallets when the ramps are folded flat.

Give me a flat bed low boy any day.

Chris

 

[7879fordman]

I have the 2.5" Reese style. It's rated for 18,000#

Chris

Is that the slip in piece or are you using a 2" slipped in a 2 1/2 truck hitches .

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[MikePA]

He already has the BP trailer never said they where bad other than over loading .

I give up.

 

[7879fordman]

No, the problem is the dove tail. Essentially wasted space unless loading hay or pallets when the ramps are folded flat.

Give me a flat bed low boy any day.

Chris

Don't fold the ramps up like I said and u can still haul stuff on the dove even though its angled . Really easy to do they make straps and chain to keep stuff from moving . Lol

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[7879fordman]

I give up.

Ok never said he was over loading . Other persons have the overloading problem .

OP wants more room .

Others want to argue about BP overloading .

I know better !!!

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[RDrancher]

Ok never said he was over loading . Other persons have the overloading problem .

OP wants more room .

Others want to argue about BP overloading .

I know better !!!

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Well..since you are THE MAN, head honcho, all knowing one...what more could anyone say? I guess you win.

 

[LD1]

No, the problem is the dove tail. Essentially wasted space unless loading hay or pallets when the ramps are folded flat.

Give me a flat bed low boy any day.

Chris

That wasted space is perfect for setting the boom and bucket of a backhoe down on...

 

[AGRIMAN]

Well..since you are THE MAN, head honcho, all knowing one...what more could anyone say? I guess you win.

I'll say this. That hitch didn't break from a light swing of a #8 hammer.

 

[mikehaugen]

I have one of them pins that is bent from pulling under 8000#'s .
And I even have a receiver hitch that I broke with a little light swing of a short handled 8# hammer . The shock load of a 14,000# load would easily do the same .

But it's where the load is placed on the truck that makes it dangerous with 14,000# plus loads .
It's saver to have the load over the axle than 4-5 feet behind it .

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Come on... are you serious? I'm sorry, but future posts by you have lost quite a bit of credibility to me. There's no way you did that unless it was about to break for other reasons. Besides it would have bent quite a bit before breaking like that, unless you are much stronger than me, I would had a hard time bending that if trying and would end up heating it first.

And as far as breaking while towing, I have never heard of anyone breaking a drawbar, but then again at those weights most would be using a pintle or at least a forged drawbar. I personally wouldn't tow that much with a bumper pull regularly, but more because of the un-loading of the front axle than because of fear of breaking something. I would hope these people are using a wdh, but even then it's a pain.

 

[LD1]

I'm sorry, but future posts by you have lost quite a bit of credibility to me.

Agreed.

There has to be more to it. Crappy hitch made out of wrong material from foreign country???

3/4" thick and 2-1/2" wide steal (usually what they are made from) is tough stuff. It would bend before breaking. Otherwise it would have broke when bent the first time.

Perhaps it is a homemade hitch?? someone used some type of hardenable steel and they heated it to bend it and then quenched it cause they didnt feel like waiting for it to cool?? That would have made it very hard and brittle???

I am no metallurgist, but mild steel certainly dont break like that. You could whale on mild steel all day long and maybe bend it a little, but certainly not break it.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Is that the slip in piece or are you using a 2" slipped in a 2 1/2 truck hitches .

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2.5" solid bars with 1 1/4" shank 2 5/16" ball welded and rated at 25,000#. Trust me, the ball, mount, or pin are not the weak link.

I have used the slave to adapt down to 2" for my light stuff like the Jet Ski.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Don't fold the ramps up like I said and u can still haul stuff on the dove even though its angled . Really easy to do they make straps and chain to keep stuff from moving . Lol

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I would like to see how you load it and unload it when at remote sites?

Chris

 

[ovrszd]

I don't have ramps on my dovetail deckover. I haul stuff on the dovetail frequently. My trailer is 28+4. I use it all.

 

[aczlan]

Nope I was a pretty light swing with the hammer pictured I was stunned it broke and it wasn't fractured or damaged i looked for that at the break . It was stuck in a hitch from rust so I thought I would tap it out and that's what happened . Heck I was going to use it glad it broke tapping it out and not hooked to a trailer .

Looking at your other picture of the break, something was up with your hitch. Its not normal for a piece of metal to break like that.

And pissing match not really . Just means that there's dangerous people out there pulling dangerous heavy loads

If its within the manufactures ratings and loaded properly why would it be any more dangerous?

Aaron Z

 

[ovrszd]

Aaron, I think he was referring to one claim of towing 25K with an 18K hitch assembly.

 

[7879fordman]

Aaron, I think he was referring to one claim of towing 25K with an 18K hitch assembly.

Ya

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[7879fordman]

Looking at your other picture of the break, something was up with your hitch. Its not normal for a piece of metal to break like that.
http://s751.photobucket.com/user/biggreenblue/media/Mobile Uploads/02-25-11_1745.jpg.html

If its within the manufactures ratings and loaded properly why would it be any more dangerous?

Aaron Z

And ya don't know but it did break with a little swing of a short handle 8# hammer . Y'all can believe me or not but it happened . Why I have no clue . Stunned I was very stunned it happen .
But it did . Am I a believer that they can easily break heck ya now .

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