Gooseneck or stick with bumper pull ?

[7879fordman]

I am with Chris on this one, but remember we both have 3500 trucks. Get the bumper pull and save you bed space for other things.

OP already has a bumper pull he is or was debating buying a gooseneck for more room . And you can still haul stuff in ya bed with a gooseneck .

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[Diamondpilot]

I have one of them pins that is bent from pulling under 8000#'s .
And I even have a receiver hitch that I broke with a little light swing of a short handled 8# hammer . The shock load of a 14,000# load would easily do the same .

But it's where the load is placed on the truck that makes it dangerous with 14,000# plus loads .
It's saver to have the load over the axle than 4-5 feet behind it .

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I have pulled well over 100,000 miles trailers 10,000# and above. Almost all BP except maybe 3,000 miles with my GN. I have never once bent, deformed, or destroy a pin, ball, or bar. I did cracked the weld on my 2004 Super Duty's hitch but that was purely my own fault towing nearly 3 times what it was rated for and 1800# of tongue weight.

That must have been a cheap pin and bar!

Chris

 

[Soundguy]

Hard for me to give advice since I have 15 trailers . But I like goosenecks better than bumper pulls .

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if I never pull another BP again I'd be happy. I MUCH prefer GN to BP

 

[Diamondpilot]

OP already has a bumper pull he is or was debating buying a gooseneck for more room . And you can still haul stuff in ya bed with a gooseneck .

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Can't put a box blade, plow, ect in with a GN. Look I had a 25' GN with tandem 12,000# axles. It's gvwr was 25,000# and weighed 6,500# empty. I found I had less room with its fold up ramps and dove tail than I did with my 20' 14,000# BP with slide in ramps. Then the bed space added to that was just a bonus.

Don't get me wrong, my GN had its place. But for loads under 11,000# it did not. The 14 bumper pull weighed half what the GN did, was easier to load, easier to manage, and handled 99% of my needs better due to the usable space being better. I have never felt once uncomfortable pulling it with my two 1 tons or two 3/4 tons I have owned.

Chris

 

[wny770]

Guess it all comes down to comfort level. We pull 25,000# of the bumpers.

As for a 5/8" hitch pin. The sheer point is north of 50,000#.

Chris

What kind of hitch do you use for that much weight?

That seems kinda heavy for a pick up?

 

[7879fordman]

I have pulled well over 100,000 miles trailers 10,000# and above. Almost all BP except maybe 3,000 miles with my GN. I have never once bent, deformed, or destroy a pin, ball, or bar. I did cracked the weld on my 2004 Super Duty's hitch but that was purely my own fault towing nearly 3 times what it was rated for and 1800# of tongue weight.

That must have been a cheap pin and bar!

Chris

Well you have been lucky is all . The pin and bar was standard products anyone could buy .

And u just stated that its dangerous to pull bp trailers with them weights because your over loading the tongue weight . So over weighting the tongue weight makes it dangerous . Sorry you don't see your dangerous even though you stated ya was .

O and you need to get and pull more . Your way behind my pull'n miles . Lol

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[7879fordman]

Can't put a box blade, plow, ect in with a GN. Look I had a 25' GN with tandem 12,000# axles. It's gvwr was 25,000# and weighed 6,500# empty. I found I had less room with its fold up ramps and dove tail than I did with my 20' 14,000# BP with slide in ramps. Then the bed space added to that was just a bonus.

Don't get me wrong, my GN had its place. But for loads under 11,000# it did not. The 14 bumper pull weighed half what the GN did, was easier to load, easier to manage, and handled 99% of my needs better due to the usable space being better. I have never felt once uncomfortable pulling it with my two 1 tons or two 3/4 tons I have owned.

Chris

You could have easily stood your ramps up strait and had more room . Sorry you didn't know that you could do that . Or could easy use a slide in ramp with a dove . Then you could use the whole length of the trailer .

So the OP has a 18" bumper pull and is thinking 25 dove that he could easily use the whole length like I just stated . So I see 7' of useable room difference . He was looking for more room not weight carrying .

Your the one that has a weight problem . Lol

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[LD1]

I call bs on breaking that hitch with one light swing from that hammer unless it was already fractured or damaged.

And I have done some serious pulling Jerking and yanking on seemingly immovable objects with my 8000# truck and a cheap 5000# rated tsc insert and never even slightly bent a pin. So unless you were using a homemade pin out of plain mild steel, I call bs on that one too since this seems to be turning into a pi$$ing match...

 

[7879fordman]

I call bs on breaking that hitch with one light swing from that hammer unless it was already fractured or damaged.

And I have done some serious pulling Jerking and yanking on seemingly immovable objects with my 8000# truck and a cheap 5000# rated tsc insert and never even slightly bent a pin. So unless you were using a homemade pin out of plain mild steel, I call bs on that one too since this seems to be turning into a pi$$ing match...

Nope I was a pretty light swing with the hammer pictured I was stunned it broke and it wasn't fractured or damaged i looked for that at the break . It was stuck in a hitch from rust so I thought I would tap it out and that's what happened . Heck I was going to use it glad it broke tapping it out and not hooked to a trailer .

As for as the pin it is a factory standard pin . I still have it somewhere .


And pissing match not really . Just means that there's dangerous people out there pulling dangerous heavy loads .

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[MikePA]

Think its worth the difference to go to the gooseneck ? Id gain more deck space, but loose some hauling capacity (12k vs my 14k)...

Call eTrailer.com and ask them what they recommend. Faster solution, without insults if you opt for a bp. It will also save posters in this thread the time they'd waste looking for pictures or videos of breaking a GN hitch with a tack hammer.